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CaelNCSU
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That pay you this year?

Bash
JavaScript - Node, Angular, Backbone
CoffeeScript
CSS3
HTML
Objective C


I made the decision to focus more on JS from Java land a few years back and there has certainly seemed to be more demand, though it could just be survivor bias... Scala seems like the winner in JVM land at bigger companies with Ruby/Python still holding steady in startup land.



[Edited on October 30, 2013 at 12:27 PM. Reason : a]

10/30/2013 12:22:51 PM

Ernie
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God Angular gets me so hard

10/30/2013 12:32:21 PM

Fry
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ColdFusion
Javascript

10/30/2013 12:32:49 PM

afripino
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vb.net
javascript
classic asp (vb)
delphi
html

10/30/2013 1:29:54 PM

LastInACC
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C
Matlab

10/30/2013 1:45:10 PM

EuroTitToss
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Javascript"

Same. It's sad, but really you can spend 99% of your time in JS. I've been playing with knockout and liking it a lot... some kids here are using angular. Maybe I should get into that?

At the risk of really embarrassing myself, some JS things I wrote on the side this year:
-a small library https://github.com/nluqo/autumn
-a game made in 7 days http://humbit.com/rogue/

[Edited on October 30, 2013 at 2:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2013 2:25:50 PM

CapnObvious
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Bash
Python

10/30/2013 2:35:51 PM

qntmfred
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server side is almost entirely C#, ASP.NET MVC and Web API
front end over the last year have been html/css/js (duh) with less, bootstrap, underscore, angular, javascriptmvc/canjs
DB mostly SQL Server, some oracle, also exploring using mongodb for some new systems coming up

10/30/2013 2:57:17 PM

BigMan157
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i haven't really branched out in a bit, maybe it's time i learn something new

10/30/2013 3:10:52 PM

IS250tim
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I use all the most modern languages with my job:
COBOL
PL/I
Java

I work with the mainframe, but need to branch out more as while it's lucrative would like to not pigeon hole my career into it.

10/30/2013 3:34:30 PM

Specter
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C and Java, some occasional python.

10/30/2013 4:15:16 PM

Fry
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"Same. It's sad, but really you can spend 99% of your time in JS. I've been playing with knockout and liking it a lot... some kids here are using angular. Maybe I should get into that?"


I've been playing with Backbone myself lately. Looked at Angular, but the way our main app is arch'ed it's not well-suited to it right now. We're hoping to do some refactoring of the app's infrastructure in the coming months and it may give us a chance to push Angular.

Also, Underscore.js FTW... though unfortunately there appears to be performance problems with Underscore.cfc, the CF/server-side port for it.

[Edited on October 30, 2013 at 5:00 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2013 4:59:10 PM

EuroTitToss
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"I use all the most modern languages with my job:
COBOL
PL/I
Java"


LOL. Everyone shits on Java but it still appears to be #2. http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html

10/30/2013 8:06:23 PM

CaelNCSU
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Having built something substantial in Backbone and Angular I prefer Angular now. It's really hard to get the view specific code in a controller where it doesn't belong. That always seemed to happen in Backbone. I do love the hell out of underscore because I'm a functional programmer at heart.

Why Java is Shit On: http://steve-yegge.blogspot.com/2006/03/execution-in-kingdom-of-nouns.html

10/30/2013 8:56:55 PM

EuroTitToss
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Yes, we've all read that. Still a shitload of paying jobs.

10/30/2013 9:19:48 PM

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"http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html"


Why the huge jump in T-SQL?

Also why the huge jump in VB.NET, while C# dropped a spot? I thought most .NET developers preferred C# these days...

^ For sure. Seems like every system we contract out gets built in Java.

10/30/2013 9:48:06 PM

Novicane
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visual basic 6.0 enterprise edition

10/31/2013 7:07:33 AM

smoothcrim
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python
bash
powershell
and not really a language but an interchange format, cloudformation
some java

10/31/2013 8:05:39 AM

Redneck Bob
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bash
perl

10/31/2013 10:05:55 AM

CaelNCSU
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I get about 1 Java recruiter for every 10 of almost anything else. .NET and C# seems to have a larger grasp out here (LA) than Java. JavaScript Repos on Github outnumber anything else, but it's probably the ease of entry of Node and web people that think they can code now that JavaScript is on the backend. I definitely had more Java interest in Raleigh than anywhere else.

http://www.webmaster-source.com/2013/08/14/javascript-is-the-most-popular-language-on-github-with-ruby-coming-in-second/

10/31/2013 12:32:44 PM

DonMega
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Java (Hibernate, Spring)
JavaScript (JQuery, JQueryUI)
JSP/HTML
CSS
PHP (no frameworks, mostly internal company projects)
ColdFusion (legacy code, hopefully the few remaining projects will be converted to Java this year)

10/31/2013 4:23:58 PM

Shaggy
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only the best ones: java and c#

10/31/2013 5:49:41 PM

ThatGoodLock
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learning JavaScript and all that follows (jQuery, Node, Angular, Backbone, etc...)

10/31/2013 6:14:21 PM

Noen
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Typescript, Knockout, HTML, SVG (D3), CSS, ASP.NET C#

10/31/2013 8:04:40 PM

aaronburro
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Only C# right now. Not sure how I should feel about that

10/31/2013 10:31:44 PM

EuroTitToss
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"SVG (D3)"

Oh yea. I used D3 a bit. It's nifty, but it seemed to be a lot of low level work to get stuff done and I thought about just using libraries built on top of it. How'd you like it Noen?

10/31/2013 10:52:17 PM

Stein
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PHP
Perl
Bash
JavaScript
Lua
HTML/JS/CSS

10/31/2013 11:51:45 PM

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Objective-C
Python
JavaScript

11/1/2013 12:01:22 AM

Smath74
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I have limited coding experience from piddling around with websites and taking intro C++ and Java courses in the late 90's and early 2000's...

that being said i don't really know how to code, but would like to learn... what's the best language to start with now? (and no, i don't have a purpose to learning... just want to learn the most versatile language)

11/1/2013 9:04:07 AM

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http://sqlzoo.net/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.codecademy.com/
http://code.org/khan-academy

http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/21/5-ways-to-learn-code-from-the-comfort-of-your-own-browser/

11/1/2013 9:22:09 AM

Ernie
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"just want to learn the most versatile language"


Javascript!

11/1/2013 10:34:34 AM

Noen
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"Oh yea. I used D3 a bit. It's nifty, but it seemed to be a lot of low level work to get stuff done and I thought about just using libraries built on top of it. How'd you like it Noen?"


D3 is just a framework, so yeah it's super low level. After spending a week or so building my own model library, I happened upon http://nvd3.org/ and we switched to using it. The official repo is in a bit of a fragmented state, but their model library is a really good base and has made things about a 1000x easier to extend/modify to produce really useful and usable visualizations.

My biggest problem with D3 (and SVG more generally) is how horrifically IE handles rendering it. Basically IE (even IE11) can only handle ~1000 SVG nodes in the DOM before rendering speed drops from 30fps to almost zip. Unfortunately, just moving everything to canvas doesn't work because then you lose the really awesome deep interaction capabilities of SVG.

This is only a problem if you're building D3 stuff in responsive UI (aka media queries, realtime resizing/scaling).

The path I'm currently exploring is to use canvg to swap the SVG to a canvas, remove it from the DOM, then when resize finishes, put everything back. Its a little clunky, but so far seems to scale pretty well.

11/1/2013 3:02:00 PM

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Edx.org and coursera.org always has programming courses running. Courses for R (johns hopkins) and Python (mit and rice) are currently running, and registration is still open. I am following both. Udacity.com also has courses and most are self paced.

11/1/2013 3:49:01 PM

darkone
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Does Matlab count?

11/1/2013 4:11:24 PM

skywalkr
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Not really programming languages in the traditional sense but SAS and SQL along with a tiny bit of vbscript but that is mainly copying other peoples code and modifying it.

11/1/2013 6:20:08 PM

skywalkr
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Double post

[Edited on November 1, 2013 at 6:21 PM. Reason : Hdhehchd]

11/1/2013 6:20:53 PM

Specter
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"LOL. Everyone shits on Java but it still appears to be #2."


Well if you're doing Android development, you really don't have much choice.

11/1/2013 6:23:38 PM

smoothcrim
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^
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2013/10/31/announcing-support-for-aws-backed-javascript-applications-in-browser/

also with this
https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/whats-new/2013/10/31/announcing-amazon-dynamodb-fine-grained-access-control/

you can write mobile apps with almost no middle tier (logic in the client and direct data access).

auth brokered through federation between your identify provider and assumed IAM roles

11/1/2013 9:06:26 PM

dakota_man
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C++ til' I die retire comfortably.

11/1/2013 11:53:50 PM

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