sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
So I know all you purists will hate it because it's not a v12 a v10 or a v8.....
But this new turbo tech is flipping sweet and I hope it "trickles down" ASAP.
So I don't even know if they have a waste gate, it appears that all turbine energy is harvested. Some for operating the compressor and some is stored in a battery pack to drive the compressor until the engine can spool it.
It seems like if there is a waste gate it would be electric and function once the .5555kwh battery is fully charged.
That's what I have picked up at least anyone got anything else ? 12/3/2013 8:12:05 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks for posting the specs 12/3/2013 8:22:11 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Engine - it’s out with 2.4-litre normally-aspirated V8 engines and in with 1.6-litre V6 turbo engines, revving to a maximum of 15,000rpm. The current engines produce more than 750bhp, whilst the 2014 units will produce around 600bhp with additional power coming from Energy Recovery Systems
2 mega joules worth of kers in the turbo and 2 more on the driveline it's self. 12/3/2013 8:55:50 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Obviously I know little to nothing about this
but how in the hell are they going to keep that thing cool? Is that a ridiculous question? 12/3/2013 10:14:47 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure the piston sleeves etc are finned to hell to increase cooling area. Turbo is inter cooled and the car will have dual radiators I think. 12/3/2013 10:54:40 AM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
Does that energy recover system not build up a lot of heat? I mean, Im' sure they deal with it either way, but I'd imagine it makes it way harder with all that crap.
The thing is going to be a massive refrigerator on wheels
[Edited on December 3, 2013 at 11:00 AM. Reason : ] 12/3/2013 10:56:34 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Shit I'd liquid cool everything but the turbine. 12/3/2013 11:00:30 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
These new turbo engines sound pretty damn weak compared to the turbo engines of the 80s. And that doesn't make sense to me 12/3/2013 1:12:17 PM |
Specter All American 6575 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So I don't even know if they have a waste gate, it appears that all turbine energy is harvested. Some for operating the compressor and some is stored in a battery pack to drive the compressor until the engine can spool it." |
they've technically had that for years with KERS12/3/2013 4:37:19 PM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
They haven't had turbos so it wasn't off the turbine and it didn't spin the compressor.
Adds a whole new heat/rpm component. 12/3/2013 5:09:09 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
i'd rather see misfire systems 12/3/2013 5:39:36 PM |
bcvaugha All American 2587 Posts user info edit post |
formula ecoboost 12/3/2013 9:18:12 PM |
jcgolden Suspended 1394 Posts user info edit post |
when they gonna have variable ar ratio turbos? 12/10/2013 10:51:14 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
When the materials are capable of doing so with the egts of the fuels they run.
Or with the new electric assist.... Never. 12/10/2013 11:24:54 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
just another lame series now 3/15/2014 9:21:07 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Real dumb, just put v12's in them and let them scream.
3/15/2014 9:25:02 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Melbourne qualifying was a hell of a show. We'll see how this race goes. 3/16/2014 2:01:41 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
they should have made it 3.8 liters and used buick grand national engines
at least that fucknut ecclestone is toast 3/16/2014 9:13:07 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Fun first race, but compared of the engines of the previous 2 decades these turbo V6s sound horrible. 3/17/2014 9:00:59 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
If people are complaining about the exhaust sound now, just wait until F1 mandates 100% electric cars in 2016. It'll make a horse race seem raucous. 3/17/2014 6:51:20 PM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS4Dh_EAfJI 3/18/2014 2:37:31 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like the things off the jetsuns. 3/18/2014 5:49:09 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Well that rules out me making a trip to Texas. I will never go to a quiet race. 3/18/2014 6:55:08 AM |
sumfoo1 soup du hier 41043 Posts user info edit post |
Doesn't sound quiet... Just weird.... 3/18/2014 7:31:25 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If people are complaining about the exhaust sound now, just wait until F1 mandates 100% electric cars in 2016. It'll make a horse race seem raucous." |
Nice troll attempt. The FIA already governs over an all electric open wheeled race series. It's called Formula E.
BlackJesus, you do know that the video you embedded is of a V8 engine, not a V12 that you referenced in the associated comment...?
[Edited on March 18, 2014 at 7:59 AM. Reason : k]3/18/2014 7:58:33 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Yes I know that, but it sounds 1 miilion times better than that silent V6. A race without loud engines is not exciting.
I should get a flat plane crank for my car.
[Edited on March 18, 2014 at 9:05 AM. Reason : sweet sweet music.] 3/18/2014 9:01:55 AM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^just checking. I mean...they're still loud. It's just not an exotic or alluring sound. 3/18/2014 9:06:33 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
Formula E will become Formula 1 in the next couple of years. Electric cars are the future. If F1 keeps using gas engines they'll be just as antiquated as NASCAR. Don't they sound glorious?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lipRfJx0aHg
3/20/2014 7:07:37 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
i swear that '14 engine video above sounds just like Mario Karts at some point in the game (passing, finish line, etc) 3/20/2014 9:33:17 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFHmYFlbFn8 3/21/2014 3:02:45 PM |