spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
per wikipedia: Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior) Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior) R. J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior) Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore) Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman) Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior) Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore)
supposedly UNLV freshman guard Rashad Vaughn has signed with an agent but nothing official yet 3/30/2015 11:24:07 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Hunter is the coach's kid, right? I mean...he had a couple good games, but that's a little surprising. And his dad is the friggin coach...those kids usually play it out. 3/31/2015 7:40:38 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
Wasn't Hunter one of the leading scorers in the nation? I know nothing about Georgia State, but thought he averaged 20 or so per game. No clue what his NBA stock is like, though. 3/31/2015 9:52:37 AM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
^,^^ yeah I was surprised but apparently Chad Ford has him in his top 20.
Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore) D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera - G, Georgetown (junior) 3/31/2015 3:19:33 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
RJ Hunter is considered to be one of the best, if not the best, shooter in this draft. 3/31/2015 4:45:25 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior) Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior) Tyler Harvey – G, Eastern Washington (junior) Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior) R. J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior) Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore) Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore) Kelly Oubre – F, Kansas (freshman) Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore) D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera - G, Georgetown (junior) Jherrod Stiggers – G, Houston (junior) Aaron Thomas – G, Florida State (junior) Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman) Rashad Vaughn – G, UNLV (freshman)
rumors that Rondae Hollis-Jefferson will declare soon 4/1/2015 10:31:56 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
lotta guys on that list that i don't know who they are. Oh well, i guess makin a paycheck playin ball SOMEWHERE is better than school. Good luck to em 4/1/2015 11:53:09 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure this is missing some, but here's an updated list...
Cliff Alexander – F, Kansas (freshman) Brandon Ashley – F, Arizona (junior) Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior) Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior) Aaron Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore) Andrew Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore) Tyler Harvey – G, Eastern Washington (junior) Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – F, Arizona (sophomore) R.J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior) Kevon Looney – F, UCLA (freshman) Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore) Chris McCullough – F, Syracuse (freshman) Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore) Kelly Oubre – F, Kansas (freshman) Cameron Payne – G, Murray State (sophomore) Walter Pitchford – F, Nebraska (junior) Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore)
D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera - G, Georgetown (junior) will return Jherrod Stiggers – G, Houston (junior) Aaron Thomas – G, Florida State (junior) J.P. Tokoto - F, North Carolina (junior) Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman) Rashad Vaughn – G, UNLV (freshman)
[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 9:33 PM. Reason : v thx] 4/8/2015 9:13:28 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Lol Tokoto 4/8/2015 9:18:07 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Sucks he went pro, he was such a liability. Roy would have gave him 25 plus minutes a game as a senior. 4/8/2015 9:46:41 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
This thread is useless without agents. Tokotos coming back watch. 4/8/2015 9:47:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
Tokoto's reasoning is basically "i know i'm not good enough to be in the NBA now, but leaving college and going to the D league is my best shot of making it" which is fine reasoning, i guess. But the part the is really head scratching is the notion that UNC - not just any college where he may or may not get much attention or play vs top competition or get HOF level coaching - isn't adequately preparing him for the NBA. weird. seems like there may be more to it. maybe he was looking at a diminished role on the team next year and instead of transferring he decided to go pro.
^^yeah - state fans on twitter are laughing it up and everything about UNC losing him. but he isn't very good. i'd much rather brice johnson or marcus pagie or justin jackson leave. he's a good defender who can't shoot.
[Edited on April 8, 2015 at 9:50 PM. Reason : f] 4/8/2015 9:48:40 PM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
there has been some debate on twitter on if he meant that the "college game" in general wasnt preparing him or if he was talking about unc specifically. that is probably looking too much into it.
that list already has over 20 names on it and there are only 30 first round picks, plus seniors. i imagine a lot of those guys come back or maybe the college game really is dying. just let the D-league sign players right of HS. 4/8/2015 10:19:06 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
there's probably also several kids on there (the one from Gardner Webb, for example) who are OK with "declaring for the draft" so they can start making money playing pro ball overseas. 4/8/2015 10:24:30 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
If you want to develop NBA skills and you are mature enough to handle it like a job and be a self-starter, d-league or Europe is absolutely the way to go.
The NCAA limits and classes get in the way of elite skill development. 4/8/2015 11:09:37 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "there has been some debate on twitter on if he meant that the "college game" in general wasnt preparing him or if he was talking about unc specifically. that is probably looking too much into it. " |
Right. Think it's probably more of Tokoto being dissatisfied with his role on the team. His role didn't line up with his professional goals, basically.4/9/2015 7:50:14 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
God damn, seven UK players are declaring.
Shitty twins, Booker, Towns, Johnson, WCS and Lyles. 4/9/2015 11:44:38 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^ Has booker officially declared or is it just one of those foregone conclusions? 4/9/2015 12:13:33 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Would be easier to just list who isn't leaving Kentucky 4/9/2015 12:20:48 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 2:30 today but seven are and I know Ulis isn't.. Suppose it could be lee 4/9/2015 2:14:56 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
I have a feeling a couple of those UK guys come back like Johnson and maybe Lyles. Booker, WCS, and Towns are top 15 guys. The shitty twins are gone because they fucked up not going last year and only got worse this year. Both will end up in Europe or D League unless they learn how to shoot. 4/9/2015 4:57:49 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
Lyles has been projected as a top 20 pick most places 4/9/2015 5:14:07 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Gotta figure at least 1 if not 2 or 3 of the top undecided recruits go to UK now.
And Harrison twins are Chris Duhon at best in the NBA. I'd like to see one backstab his brother, stay for another year and blow up First Team All American into a lottery pick.
[Edited on April 9, 2015 at 11:20 PM. Reason : while the other one rots on the bench for the Idaho Stampede] 4/9/2015 11:18:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Justin Anderson is bye.
It's all happening. 4/13/2015 10:15:12 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Sweet. 4/13/2015 11:06:16 AM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
Although he could conceivably not hire an agent and return to UVA, that would be a huge loss for UVA. Especially considering they're losing Atkins too. Losing their best offensive player & 2 very good defenders. 4/13/2015 11:28:10 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Big loss, but let's not forget no one expected them to be as good after losing Joe Harris and Akil Mitchell last year. I still think they'll finish first in the regular season. 4/13/2015 12:03:44 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
The funny thing about great team basketball is that it doesnt depend on stars. 4/13/2015 12:32:47 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
You still need dudes to hit shots...and he hit a few last year. 4/13/2015 12:35:33 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Harris hit more shots than Anderson. They'll be worse than last year, but it will be enough to have another stellar regular season.
[Edited on April 13, 2015 at 1:38 PM. Reason : A] 4/13/2015 1:38:10 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Didn't he do an April Fools prank saying he was declaring? And now he is actually declaring, kinda messed up 4/13/2015 2:01:24 PM |
Jeepin4x4 #Pack9 35774 Posts user info edit post |
[BYE] Olivier Hanlan 4/13/2015 2:27:49 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
I'm at UVA for grad school now and remember hearing about the April Fools Day thing. Was apparently a friend of his who started the rumor on Twitter, that Anderson later denied.
I know it's part of Wojnarowski's job to report on these NBA related things, but I still think its pretty shitty to announce these kinds of things before the kid gets a chance to announce themselves. 4/13/2015 3:41:49 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
I would assume it's people close to the players that know they'll be declaring are the ones who are letting the Wojo's of the world know, or who are letting the people who are letting the Wojo's of the world know? 4/13/2015 3:47:00 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Whatever, just glad he's leaving. 4/13/2015 5:37:30 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
The more leaving that don't play for us, the better. 4/13/2015 9:34:54 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
so BC is returning two guys averaging ~15 minutes a game and some walkons? yeesh. don't think they're bringing in anyone particularly amazing either.
Cliff Alexander – F, Kansas (freshman) Justin Anderson - G, Virginia (junior) Brandon Ashley – F, Arizona (junior) Devin Booker - G, Kentucky (freshman) Willie Cauley-Stein - F, Kentucky (junior) Sam Dekker - F, Wisconsin (junior) Michael Frazier II – G, Florida (junior) Olivier Hanlan - G, Boston College (junior) Montrezl Harrell – F, Louisville (junior) Aaron Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore) Andrew Harrison - G, Kentucky (sophomore) Tyler Harvey – G, Eastern Washington (junior) Jerome Hill – F, Gardner-Webb (junior) Rondae Hollis-Jefferson – F, Arizona (sophomore) R.J. Hunter – G, Georgia State (junior) Vince Hunter - G, UTEP (sophomore) Dakari Johnson - C, Kentucky (sophomore) Kevon Looney – F, UCLA (freshman) Trey Lyles - F, Kentucky (freshman) Jarell Martin – F, LSU (sophomore) Chris McCullough – F, Syracuse (freshman) Jordan Mickey – F, LSU (sophomore) Jahlil Okafor - C, Duke (freshman) Kelly Oubre – F, Kansas (freshman) Cameron Payne – G, Murray State (sophomore) Walter Pitchford – F, Nebraska (junior) Terry Rozier – G, Louisville (sophomore) Jherrod Stiggers – G, Houston (junior) Aaron Thomas – G, Florida State (junior) J.P. Tokoto - F, North Carolina (junior) Karl-Anthony Towns - C, Kentucky (freshman) Myles Turner – F, Texas (freshman) Rashad Vaughn – G, UNLV (freshman) Justise Winslow - F, Duke (freshman)
up to 34 now. rumored that Wiltjer may be next. 4/13/2015 9:35:29 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I dont follow this as much anymore, but is 34 not an inordinate amount of guys leaving? I guess making some money in the D league or Europe is fine for most of these guys over finishing up school seeing as a lot of them probably dont even get drafted. 4/14/2015 8:30:00 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Well, you also have to think they're not exactly getting perfect information. 4/14/2015 9:30:38 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25534 Posts user info edit post |
^That might be partially true. But I don't know how much I buy into that being a huge issue for some of the guys going pro that are borderline draft picks. It's not like these guys are living under a rock and a couple "handlers" or whatever tell them to go pro so they do. They have plenty of information available to make a well-informed decision. Not that every player always does make the most informed decision - but the information is there and available for them to do so.
I don't know the ages of some of these guys - but with transfers becoming more and more prevalent, some the "underclassmen" may still be 4 years removed from high school. And much like Lorenzo Brown did, if you're older for your grade it may be in your best interest to go ahead and leave for the pros than stick around and not get paid for another year.
I'm sure there are plenty of factors at play here too. Some guys may just hate school and realize that their stock won't rise significantly in one year - so they're better off to at least toil away in the D-League and get a pay check while trying to make the NBA.
[Edited on April 14, 2015 at 12:57 PM. Reason : d] 4/14/2015 12:56:54 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
I think some of them also think that their development at this level has reached it's ceiling. Or a coach's system (like UVA) isn't preparing them for the pros. 4/14/2015 3:39:54 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
apparently Winslow didn't announce until just now... saw his name on the Wiki page and just assumed I had missed the announcement.
Arkansas forward Bobby Portis declared today, which makes 35 (assuming my previous count was right). The previous three years, there have been 44, 48, and 49, so the number is actually down as of now, although there's plenty of time for it to go up. 4/14/2015 4:48:23 PM |
killpups All American 945 Posts user info edit post |
you guys wanna hear a funny joke?
ezu junior Terry Whisnant is going pro early..............
in Europe.................
....maybe syria 4/14/2015 4:58:53 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
ah, forgot about that guy. can't hide away down in Greenville for long while putting up 12.3 points, 2.6 rebounds and 1.8 assists. 4/14/2015 5:05:12 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I see Aaron Thomas is on the list for FSU, who is he? I watched them play two games at acc tournament and don't remember him. 4/14/2015 9:52:39 PM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
he was their leading scorer last year and for the beginning of this season, then got ruled ineligible for the season around December. thought he signed with an agent back then but maybe not. 4/14/2015 10:16:13 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Devin Booker is gonna shoot up the draft boards once scouts see him shoot in drills. Top 10 possibly, similar to Stauskas last year. He'd be a perfect complement to MKG in Charlotte. 4/14/2015 10:29:03 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
[Bye] Tyus Jones 4/15/2015 11:04:04 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
is this real life?
http://packinsider.com/2015/04/15/gopack-report-trevor-lacey-declaring-nba-draft/ 4/15/2015 3:10:59 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Based on most of my interactions with players at this level, you would be surprised how most of them think they are nba ready in college, they simply havent had the same luck and breaks as the stars at this level.
Once you get to this level, everyone has been a high school star and feel invincible. I dont know tokoto but an example would be for a guy of his ability to look at a guy like winslow and say "im just as good as him and probably better, he gets more publicity because he goes to duke and i shut that #%^# down when we met"
Ive even heard this kind of talk from naia players about guys they played against in high school who ended up playing in the nba
Bottom line is they all probably thibk they are great. 4/17/2015 1:32:37 PM |