AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
| Syracuse (2-2) | | | vs | | | NC State (3-1) | |
| Saturday, September 30th, 12:20pm TV: ACC Network |
GO STATE!9/27/2017 11:22:06 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I'm getting good at this 9/27/2017 11:22:28 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
HYPE BONERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 9/27/2017 11:29:31 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
Will there be hellis? I'm confused. Go Pack 9/27/2017 11:36:07 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
9/27/2017 11:42:24 AM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
GO FACK! 9/27/2017 12:20:48 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
If we've learned anything from DD's time here, we know we got this game. Next week is a different matter. 9/27/2017 12:44:51 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i hope the team with the block S wins 9/27/2017 1:50:40 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
This is going to be the trust test on whether or not Doeren has grown as a coach and if our program has gotten over the hump.
Winning a big game is great, but you can't let it be your SB and then turn around the next week and lose to a team you're supposed to beat. The goal is to beat the teams you're supposed to beat and then hope for some upsets to pad the W column to separate average seasons from good seasons.
Beating FSU was great, but we're 13 point favorites to Syracuse, we can't lose this one if we want to land a good bowl game and keep the positive momentum going.
I have no expectations that we'll win this game. I feel like we'll start slow and they'll come out passing it a bunch trying to exploit our crappy secondary.
Hope I'm wrong and we come out and score early and often to put pressure on their team and the defense comes away with a couple of big turnovers. Problem is we've never seen how Doeren responds to a big win...as FSU was his first big win. 9/27/2017 2:06:15 PM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
plz 2 not have big win hangover, k thx. 9/27/2017 3:40:57 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
^^isn't them passing a bunch just what they do? 9/27/2017 4:10:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
31-21, cuse with the backdoor cover imo 9/27/2017 4:30:18 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Are we not throwing to our TE's because our skill guys are just more reliable? Or is it a system thing? 9/27/2017 4:53:51 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
do we have a pass catching TE? 9/27/2017 5:00:47 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27834 Posts user info edit post |
We are throwing to Samuels all the time 9/27/2017 5:04:20 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Randy moss jr. transferred for a reason. Successful application of the Drinkwitz system is not predicated on the use and enjoyment of a tight end.
[Edited on September 27, 2017 at 7:18 PM. Reason : D] 9/27/2017 7:17:55 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
We have Cole Cook who has a few catches I believe. But yeah. We just don't utilize a traditional TE in the pass game much. 9/27/2017 8:00:08 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
This would be such a State game to lose 9/27/2017 9:56:40 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
talent aside, florida state was a favorable matchup and syracuse is an umfavorable matchup. 9/27/2017 11:28:58 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
^Talent aside? How is a matchup favorable or unfavorable if you don't judge the talent? Teams are talented in different ways which creates different kinds of matchups, so how can you ignore the talent? Either we're talented at doing the thing they aren't good at stopping/talented at stopping the thing they're supposedly good at doing, or we aren't. 9/28/2017 12:22:48 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I mean the Samuels pass last week went to Parham (TE). So our TEs do catch the ball. But right now we have much more talent at WR, RB and JSam than TE with the departure of Moss and McKever. 9/28/2017 12:35:10 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
^^ schemes and tendencies. defenses that are aggressive amd built around pass rush leave themselves vulnerable to a quick pass offense like ours while defenses like bc that are more disciplined in coverage fare better.
fsu can destroy a team that has a traditional offense with runs and deep pa passes.
our defense is suited for stopping teams that rely on the run and vulnerable to pass heavy teams like cuse.
talent is important but matchups are just as important which is why i feel more comfortable against fsu than syracuse or bc. fsu is the 3rd most talented team in the country.
clemson d is also a good matchup for us. 9/28/2017 1:44:40 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
If you're playing our offense, the best thing to do would be rush 3 drop 8 into a shallow zone and have your lbs follow hines and samuels, corners jam the wrs and safeties wide and shallow. Give Finley all day but keep your dbs sitting on everything short.
On offense, abandon the run and use the short passing game as the run. make our guys tackle your guys in space on the boundary. use that to setup a deep pass every 3 or 4 plays.
FSU does the opposite of what is ideal against us on both sides of the ball making them the perfect matchup despite being the most talented team on our schedule. They are aware but they think their talent will overcome playing into our hands. They think they can assert their will in the run game and that their pass rush will somehow get home against our quick pass. It never does.
Clemson's d plays into our hands but everyone else seems to game plan for us.
[Edited on September 28, 2017 at 2:49 AM. Reason : front 7 talent is neutralized when you just throw it out to the boundary right away.] 9/28/2017 2:48:23 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
We usually lose after beating FSU but we shall see. 9/28/2017 12:30:06 PM |
MONGO All American 599 Posts user info edit post |
We're 1-5 in games following FSU wins since 1998 during regular season.
2012 - W against Maryland (finished season 4-8), 20-18 2010 - L against Clemson (finished season 6-7), 13-14 2006 - L against Wake Forest (finished season 10-3), 23-25 2005 - L against Boston College (finished season 9-3), 10-30 2001 - L against Maryland (finished season 10-2), 19-23 1998 - L against Baylor (finished season 2-9), 30-33
IMO the only games we should have taken care of business after FSU games were Clemson and Baylor. Small sample size and all but its definitely in play.
Think it'll be a close one - something like 27-24 Pack. 9/28/2017 12:47:13 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Cuse lost to Middle Tennessee, who got curb stomped by the other P5 teams they played (Vandy and Minnesota where they scored a combined 9 points). I think we'll be ok. Our DLine should have a field day and I don't think our offense will have much trouble moving the ball. 9/28/2017 12:52:35 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah that's what happens when you're largely a mediocre program. when you usually lose more ACC games than you win it shouldn't be too shocking that we lose any ACC game regardless of what we did in the previous week. that said, obviously "hangover" games can happen. i think it helps that this is a home game.
[Edited on September 28, 2017 at 12:56 PM. Reason : arrows] 9/28/2017 12:56:07 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncsu/video/16973763/
DD on if its a trap 9/28/2017 1:02:03 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
*****BREAKING NEWS ALERT*****
FOOTBALL GUY SAYS ONE GAME AT A TIME 9/28/2017 1:37:03 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
The unis look amazing 9/28/2017 6:18:25 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
link? 9/28/2017 6:36:47 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.instagram.com/p/BZmc3zgg-9b/?hl=en&taken-by=packfootball 9/28/2017 6:40:16 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
gray uni's? queue up the dancing L 9/28/2017 6:44:46 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
9/28/2017 7:20:02 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
I hope their spread quick passing game doesn't take our best player Chubb out of the game. 9/28/2017 9:39:50 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
I like those unis. Maybe it's just me. 9/29/2017 8:39:47 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Whats our record in alternative jerseys?
[Edited on September 29, 2017 at 9:01 AM. Reason : sp] 9/29/2017 8:49:41 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
I love that helmet 9/29/2017 8:57:41 AM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
those uni's are ugly af 9/29/2017 9:09:01 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
^^^idk, pretty sure we beat Cuse in 'em last year or the year before.
helmet's fine...wolf head is infinitely better than block s. the jerseys themselves....meh, whatever.
wolf head > block s
[Edited on September 29, 2017 at 11:33 AM. Reason : k] 9/29/2017 11:33:13 AM |
Zel Sa Da Tay 2094 Posts user info edit post |
yea I was digging tuffy last week on the helmet too. 9/29/2017 12:05:58 PM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
The jerseys!! The helmets!!! RAWR RAWR!!@! 9/29/2017 12:41:42 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
I'm surprised there's so much distaste for "grey" I'd have thought it'd be neutral at best 9/29/2017 1:00:25 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
I love the wolf head as well. My favorite logo we have. That's why I think our bball floor is fantastic. 9/29/2017 1:34:19 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27834 Posts user info edit post |
Ugh Tuffy head is awful on the helmet, but hey at least it's not full body Tuffy or the sad wolf eyes helmet.
I, too, think it looks great on the basketball court, and this helmet looks a billion times better than the white one. A red one would look better as well. I just don't like it at all on white.] 9/29/2017 1:43:28 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Will there be hellis? I'm confused. Go Pack" |
LOL9/29/2017 1:50:03 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25526 Posts user info edit post |
^^block S is just too generic and, well, blocky looking to me. and then the N and C inside of it kinda just make it look like a red rectangle from a distance. i like the wolf head mostly because it's unique and seems to stand out a little more. 9/29/2017 2:00:54 PM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 29, 2017 at 2:05 PM. Reason : sd]
9/29/2017 2:05:31 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27834 Posts user info edit post |
^^i personally think the diamond logo is the best helmet we've ever had, but I think the Tuffy head would look much, much better on red than on white.
As long as we don't bring back the one with the tiny full body Tuffy. That looked like a damn joke. 9/29/2017 2:10:25 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Definitely want to see Tuffy on the red helmet.
I personally like the block S. Just don't think its necessarily the best on a classically styled helmet. Plenty of ways to freshen up the look. 9/29/2017 4:00:02 PM |