Who will be watching? No kickoffs, and no TV timeouts, target is a 2.5 hour game broadcast

San Diego at San Antonio Sat, Feb 09 8:00 PM ET CBS
Atlanta at Orlando Sat, Feb 09 8:00 PM ET CBS
Memphis at Birmingham Sun, Feb 10 4:00 PM ET CBSSN
Salt Lake at Arizona Sun, Feb 10 8:00 PM ET NFLNetwork

Key rule differences: https://aaf.com/notable-rule-differences-for-the-alliances-inaugural

2/8/2019 2:21:00 PM

Interesting. So this is like the XFL part 2? Any former State players on any of these teams?

2/8/2019 2:24:50 PM

Hard pass

2/8/2019 2:40:51 PM

Not sure on NC State Players

Being down in Atlanta they talk about the Atlanta team some on Sports Talk radio but its been mostly negative for Atlanta.

Head Coach Brad Childress quit a few days into start of practice
Michael Vick was the Offensive Coordinator he either quit or was fired yesterday

Aaron Murray (Former UGA QB) was supposed to be starter but he lost out to Matt Simms

It may do alright as a novelty act for a few weeks but once March Madness starts no one will care.

2/8/2019 3:47:41 PM

Haven't watched a ton, but there are some camera angles that I think the NFL will end up implementing

2/9/2019 9:50:48 PM

Jeff Fisher is the head of football strategy for the AAF

2/9/2019 10:51:43 PM

I know Tobais Palmer is on a team. That was the only name that popped out to me.

2/10/2019 9:22:28 AM

Loved their cover of Smooth Criminal

2/10/2019 11:36:02 AM

^^^^^And what about when the XFL starts again in the up coming years.

2/10/2019 1:00:00 PM

Tobias Palmer and Jack Tocho both play for the Birmingham Iron

2/10/2019 1:32:16 PM

So I didn’t watch. But some of the rules I’ve seen are interesting.

Also, the replay officials being mic’d up is neat insight. The NFL would never allow that though.

[Edited on February 10, 2019 at 2:17 PM. Reason : A]

2/10/2019 2:16:33 PM

i'm all in. Orlando Apollos all the way. Love watching the head ball coach limp down the sidelines.

2/11/2019 9:32:36 AM

Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks represent!

I liked the UFL when it was running some years ago. But it amazes me how many lives spring minor league football has. It's had a lot of believers over the years that have lost a lot of money.

2/11/2019 10:22:47 AM

Y'all should all be Iron fans, the reason Tocho and Palmer are on the Iron is because the AAF has what they're calling a territorial draft, where each AAF team can only pick players from certain colleges/NFL/CFL teams, and NC State is in the Iron's territory

2/14/2019 12:47:53 AM

But then we'd also have to be fans of any UNC players as well.

2/14/2019 10:35:13 AM

Pretty decent game going on now between Orlando and San Antonio

2/17/2019 5:06:38 PM

^^ UNC is affiliated with the Atlanta Legends

2/17/2019 5:43:41 PM

Oh ok, GO HAM IRON

2/17/2019 10:26:12 PM

Maybe Dundon can get us a team?

2/19/2019 1:19:12 PM

will it even last past this season?

2/19/2019 2:44:07 PM

Well it's not a good sign that they apparently already couldn't pay everybody prior to week 1 and had to have someone come in and basically buy the league.

2/19/2019 3:38:54 PM

Have Raleigh field a team. They play in Carter Finley. Lease out CF

2/19/2019 6:45:05 PM

That's the plan according to Dundon

2/19/2019 6:57:45 PM

And have Kaep as the QB @20 million per year.

2/19/2019 7:11:40 PM

Raleigh-Durham Skyhawks, Version 2!

2/19/2019 8:42:36 PM

Package deal for an AAF team and MLS team to share a stadium

2/19/2019 9:01:26 PM

Why would State let a team play in C-F when Dundon threw a hissy fit about the scheduling conflicts in PNC?

2/20/2019 8:05:17 AM

Because money?

I would assume that the AAF teams would use the locker rooms in Finley fieldhouse and wouldn't be using the Murphy center at all, so it really wouldn't interfere with spring practice or training/whatever

2/20/2019 2:52:59 PM

Saturday, February 9
Orlando 40, Atlanta 6
San Antonio 15, San Diego 6

Sunday, February 10
Birmingham 26, Memphis 0
Arizona 38, Salt Lake 22

Saturday, February 16
Birmingham 12, Salt Lake 9
Arizona 20, Memphis 18

Sunday, February 17
Orlando 37, San Antonio 29
San Diego 24, Atlanta 12

Saturday, February 23
Arizona at Salt Lake 3:00pm B/R LIVE
Memphis at Orlando 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, February 24
Birmingham at Atlanta 4:00pm CBSSN
San Antonio at San Diego 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, March 2
Orlando at Salt Lake 4:00pm B/R LIVE
San Diego at Memphis 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, March 3
San Antonio at Birmingham 4:00pm CBSSN
Atlanta at Arizona 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, March 9
Orlando at Birmingham 2:00pm B/R LIVE
Salt Lake at San Diego 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, March 10
Memphis at Atlanta 4:00pm CBSSN
San Antonio at Arizona 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, March 16
Memphis at Salt Lake 4:00pm B/R LIVE
Arizona at Orlando 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, March 17
San Antonio at Atlanta 4:00pm CBSSN
Birmingham at San Diego 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, March 23
Orlando at Atlanta 3:00pm B/R LIVE
Salt Lake at San Antonio 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, March 24
San Diego at Arizona 4:00pm CBSSN
Birmingham at Memphis 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, March 30
Orlando at Memphis 2:00pm B/R LIVE
San Diego at Salt Lake 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, March 31
Atlanta at Birmingham 4:00pm CBSSN
Arizona at San Antonio 8:00pm NFLN

Saturday, April 6
Memphis at San Antonio 4:00pm B/R LIVE
San Diego at Orlando 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, April 7
Salt Lake at Atlanta 4:00pm CBSSN
Birmingham at Arizona 8:00pm NFLN

Friday, April 12
San Antonio at Salt Lake 8:00pm B/R LIVE

Saturday, April 13
Atlanta at Memphis 8:00pm NFLN

Sunday, April 14
Birmingham at Orlando 3:30pm CBSSN
Arizona at San Diego 8:00pm NFLN

2/21/2019 3:20:21 PM

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/23/report-dundon-can-pull-the-plug-on-his-aaf-investment/

Yeah, so Dundon is basically keeping this league afloat, and he can pull the plug at any time if so chooses.

2/23/2019 3:52:21 PM

/league

4/2/2019 3:43:41 PM

I had already forgotten about this league

4/2/2019 4:05:39 PM

Disappointing but not surprised

4/2/2019 4:20:37 PM

GNSP


[Edited on April 2, 2019 at 5:42 PM. Reason : RIP]

4/2/2019 5:42:40 PM

so did Dundan lose all $250 million on this?

4/2/2019 6:26:25 PM

no. cost him $70 million.

https://mobile.twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1113123410215952386

Quote :

"Perception inside the AAF is that Hurricanes owner Tom Dundon bought a majority stake in the league simply for the gambling app being developed. Source: "Dundon got the technology he wanted and he's now minus one rather large headache.""

4/2/2019 6:29:48 PM

lol nice. He's gonna make bank with that.

4/2/2019 7:40:46 PM

So has this league folded yet? I heard it was in trouble.

4/3/2019 8:54:33 AM

Yes.

It was in trouble from the start, because the founders were bad at finance.

4/3/2019 9:56:54 AM

so did Dundon pull out all of his money or did he lose a bunch? kinda looks like it was a verbal agreement that he reneged on, but I don't know if any other news has come out to clarify that

4/3/2019 11:03:58 AM

On the one hand it seems like there would be way easier ways to get a hold of the tech if that is really the goal, but I'd be curious to know how much of a write off Dundon could make on a "loss" on investment.

If you look at it that way that he can find some way to claim a tax loss and get a hold of some assets that's the only way this makes sense.

4/3/2019 11:37:05 AM

it was billed at the beginning that he invested 250 mil but if you looked into it further they admitted at the time he could pull out at any time

people are pinning this on him it seems like, but without him this would have happened a couple months ago anyhow.

now is the time where the NFL could step in and purchase it and turn it into a minor league if they wanted to do so -- pretty sure thats what happened with the USFL right? and that's what led to the eventual NFL Europe?

4/3/2019 12:39:57 PM

USFL was way more successful than AAF, and in all likelihood would have succeeded if Donald Trump and a few other owners hadn't gotten the league to switch to a fall season to compete directly with the NFL and try and force a merger. USFL had nothing to do with NFL Europe. You're thinking of WLAF, which became NFL Europe/Europa. That was started by the NFL and they owned most of the teams.

It's pretty obvious that AAF wasn't really ready to start playing, but the people in charge at the time felt like they had to beat the revived XFL to the playing field. They immediately lacked the funding to do basic things like send out paychecks to players. That led to them having to give up majority control just to be able to continue on a week-by-week basis. Bill Polian and Charlie Ebersol are the ones who fucked this up, not Dundon.

4/3/2019 2:28:42 PM

Quote :

"I liked the UFL when it was running some years ago. But it amazes me how many lives spring minor league football has. It's had a lot of believers over the years that have lost a lot of money."

It has to be one of the toughest sports to finance. These teams aren't funded by the NFL like MLB farm teams. Football teams also need about 65 players on a roster. Minor league soccer can get by with about 30, or less on roster. Baseball and hockey can also get by with smaller rosters. Even then, there have been a lot of teams in those leagues that folded through the years and the lower divisions always seem to be changing. The AFL is the most successful semi-pro football league in the USA and that is only 8 vs 8 with a 21 man roster. They have also had financial problems too.

[Edited on April 3, 2019 at 7:54 PM. Reason : .]

4/3/2019 7:53:30 PM

We wanna just keep this for our discount football thread?

XFL starts next week - anyone got a team? I'm thinking DC Defenders

2/3/2020 9:49:46 AM