Looks entertaining.

For some reason I thought he was retiring after 8.




[Edited on March 20, 2019 at 4:39 PM. Reason : embed]

3/20/2019 4:37:40 PM

I thought it was 10?

3/20/2019 9:11:34 PM

https://deadline.com/2019/05/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-cannes-standing-ovation-quentin-tarantino-premiere-1202620039/

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"The crowd that was able to get into the Cannes Film Festival’s world premiere of Quentin Tarantino’s Once Upon a Time in Hollywood gave the film a seven-minute standing ovation at the end of one of the most anticipated screenings at the prestigious festival in recent years."

5/24/2019 1:31:33 PM

Bttt

7/27/2019 9:49:42 PM

It's sad and funny at the same time. It has a dreamlike pace. Someone wrote that this is his first film as an old filmmaker. Feels like someone past his prime looking back on what could have been. It's different than most of his films, particularly the dialogue is more naturalistic. Come for the lulz. Leo just gets better with age. He has an epic scene in a trailer that had me twisting in my chair.

It's not that it has to be better than .... it's just different and that's fine.

7/28/2019 10:46:11 AM

A fair number of people in my theater got up and left midway through. My date did said it was a waste of time and had no plot.



This is all a weird way of saying I thoroughly enjoyed it, and want to see it again.

7/28/2019 1:43:28 PM

I saw it this morning at a 9:30 showing and really enjoyed it. I'd warn anyone going to see it that there is a climactic scene of startling violence that is (intentionally, I'm sure) jarringly out of place compared to the tones in the rest of the film.

In case you're sensitive to violence but don't want to be spoiled, it starts shortly after Cliff decides to smoke the cigarette. You'll know what I mean.

7/28/2019 7:56:11 PM

OMG startling violence in a Tarantino movie? Wow, you don't say???

Thanks for the pro tip, bra.

7/28/2019 9:29:17 PM

I think this ending is kind of response to concerns of violence in his films. Don't act on it.

As for people walking out, hey I dunno if it's a masterpiece of mediocre in the long run but there are two kinds of people in the world. Some aren't capable of thinking independently. They need bright shiny flashes of a phone screen or someone flapping their mouth incessantly in their direction to spark the synapses. Others, can sit in silence and contemplate deeper meanings. Guess I wouldn't want to reside in a vacuous space for long if nothing happened.

7/28/2019 9:43:14 PM

expertly made that was a bit too long but I get why it was a bit too long

the last 45 mins are up there with his best work

Brad fuckin’ Pitt, man

[Edited on July 28, 2019 at 10:16 PM. Reason : .]

7/28/2019 10:05:08 PM

I don't know why I feel the need to deign to respond to you, you fucking simpleton, but I will.

Tarantino movies generally don't feature startling violence. Violence in general, yes, but at a level set by the rest of the film.

Consider, for example, Reservoir Dogs. Now, there is a lot of blood in that movie. What violent act does everyone recall? Mr. Blonde cutting off the cops ear. But we never even see the actual cutting! What makes the scene so effective is how it builds anticipation. It isn't startling in the least. We know it's coming. And we don't even see it happen.

Or consider Kill Bill. There are several bloody scenes of over-the-top kung fu duels, but we know each and every one is coming. The Bride has a list, and she confronts everyone on it, and we know the stakes going into those scenes: a fight to the death. The most surprising and unexpected bit of violence (and I'll admit this is subjective) is when the Bride plucks Elle Driver's eye out of her head, and even that is telegraphed by Elle's eyepatch and the close shots of the women's eyelines in Bud's trailer. It's surprising and a bit gory--I think the Bride stomps the eyeball--but you've been primed for it already, so you don't exactly leap from your seat.

But the climactic violence of Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood is so kind of out-of-phase with the rest of the movie that I, personally, subjectively, me, did find it startling. And I thought the good people of the Wolf Web might like to know there's something like that coming.

Now, you can go back to wiping your ass with your hand or whatever the fuck you spend your days doing once your drool dries up, you fucking troglodyte.

7/29/2019 6:41:30 AM

The climax in IB was extremely violent, but expected as its a war movie. The shootings in PF are rather violent, but it is a movie about gangsters.

Unless you go into Once Upon a Time knowing that Tate is gonna get it, I could see it being very out of place.

7/29/2019 8:24:44 AM

violence is one of his main trademarks. All of his films have startling, often controversially violent scenes.

You don't have to be clairvoyant to predict that there will also be gory blood in this film. Every single one of his films is like that. You don't even have to go through and list the violence in each of his movies because they are all relatively famous scenes.


[Edited on July 29, 2019 at 12:29 PM. Reason : Have you guys forgotten the shit storm from Django and D'Artagnan]

7/29/2019 12:27:07 PM

I will say though, the beating that the German officer takes by the Bear Jew in IB is probably one of the very few scenes of violence from a movie that has stayed with me. I don't know what it was - the way the officer was trying to talk and move after the first hit or what.

7/29/2019 12:30:20 PM

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" you fucking troglodyte. "

You're the one coming in here warning people that a Tarantino film is violent.

It doesn't get much worse than that.

7/29/2019 12:39:28 PM

This Tarantino film about the Charles Manson murders was startling violent.

8/1/2019 8:57:59 AM

WHO WOULDA GUESSED????????

8/1/2019 11:49:21 AM

Saw this movie last night, it sucked. There were some good parts, but overall, it sucked.

8/2/2019 9:43:07 AM

^^^ it’s definitely not about the Manson murders

8/2/2019 10:41:04 AM

its literally called tarantinos manson movie and manson is only famous because of the murders

8/2/2019 12:19:52 PM

2 things about that it were antithetical to a lot of modern trends in entertainment. I enjoyed the slower pace. It was nice change when a lot of things are 'bite-sized' and catered for engagement on social media.

Also, the movie did not potray hippies in a positive light or romanticise the whole 60s ethos like a lot of period pieces from that time do. Chuck Klosterman mentioned on Bill Simmons podcast how it had been a long time since he saw a popular movie do that. (Forest Gump?)

[Edited on August 3, 2019 at 10:16 PM. Reason : Asdf]

8/3/2019 10:14:19 PM

Nice to see intelligent discourse return. That took me aback as well. I realized that I was possibly duped and Cartman was right all along about hippies. I was born in 82. What the fuck do I know. However I don't think this movie is more about hating hippies or the disruprive youth but a wish for something to return from the past.

8/3/2019 11:46:38 PM

Bruce Dern being blind and fucking a girl who only wants to chill and watch TV is on the nose though. And she is directly linked to the people who murder Tate, who was married to Polanski and could've/would've been the greatest director who ever lived (have you watched Repulsion). It must be hard for Tarantino. Weinstein goes down. The uneducated masses don't know how to watch a movie unless the white male wears a cape. Hollywood is def dying.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/aug/02/over-the-hills-quentin-tarantino-and-the-end-of-hollywood-as-we-know-it

8/4/2019 12:08:55 AM

I've read several articles, one on Forbes, and from a few other places, regarding basically the same thing. So many original films have crashed and burned because so many people choose to watch those types of movies on streaming platforms at home, while they save their one or two movie going experiences for the big tentpole spectacles. Therefore directors and studios are only pushing these big, non-original, sequel, shared-universe type movies.

And I can certainly see it. With two kids, (even if my wife liked to go see movies), it would take at least 3 hours worth of babysitting, two 15 dollar movie tickets, food, etc, so by the time you're all said and done, one movie has ended up costing $100. So people are having to limit the movies they go see. Therefore they choose the big ones - MCU, Pixar, Star Wars, etc.

Nolan is coming out with a potentially interesting original, and his name still carries some weight - let's hope he bucks the trend.

And what's the incentive for directors to gamble? Look at Han Solo. That movie still made a boatload of money, but a boatload isn't enough for Disney, so they stopped putting out "original" Star Wars movies for the time being. When 500 or 600 million isn't enough at the box office, we have a problem.

And I'm sure that people who come to post here are not the norm - you guys are still going out and watching movies like Once Upon A time..., but I'm talking about the general public.

[Edited on August 4, 2019 at 11:11 AM. Reason : sdfdsa]

8/4/2019 11:10:11 AM

Very good movie. And the violence didn't really seem out of place, other than that bullshit scene where Bruce got thrown into a car because that wouldn't have happened.

11/25/2019 10:19:47 PM

I’ve read pieces that theorize that that entire sequence was a fantasy and didn’t actually happen like it did in the fantasy

I think I agree with that theory

[Edited on November 25, 2019 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]

11/25/2019 10:24:13 PM

They were fictional characters though so I'm sure plenty of it was fantasy

11/25/2019 10:45:37 PM

(in Brad Pitt’s characters mind)

11/26/2019 1:01:38 AM

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" other than that bullshit scene where Bruce got thrown into a car because that wouldn't have happened."

Bruce's daughter complained about it. I think it's fine however.

11/26/2019 8:34:20 AM

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" Brad fuckin’ Pitt, man"

2/9/2020 8:20:05 PM

Two of the finest actors in Hollywood at the moment, going to town. Loved it.

Does Tarantino have something against spaghetti westerns? I just got the sense that they were considered third rate productions. Is that how they were viewed IRL at the time? I mean, I love me some Fistful of Dollars.

2/10/2020 10:46:01 AM

that was how they were thought of at the time

he’s on the record saying he reveres westerns/spaghetti westerns

2/10/2020 11:12:46 AM

I can see why some people may like this movie.... but I am not one of them. So disappointing - it's like the story about a non-story. I don't recall being so bored watching a movie of this supposed caliber. Acting was great and the scenes were all shot great - just the story was empty and I could not care less about anyone in the film. The story ruined the talent spent. I couldn't imagine trying to watch this a second time, it would be agonizing. My straw poll shows 7/10 friends agree Seemingly the others who loved it are obsessed with the actors, mainly.

3/2/2020 10:07:30 AM

I enjoyed it okay. I'm a fan of process movies and period films, this was both. That said, yea, still on the boring side.

3/2/2020 11:46:53 PM

If you didn't like this movie, you should watch The Haunting of Sharon Tate. Now that is a truly bad movie.

3/3/2020 1:40:19 AM

Just watched. There were many good bits but I think i agree it was just OK. I loved everything at the ranch, and Dalton with the young actress. The violence was def startling compared to the tone of the movie, even knowing it was Tarantino. The violence was more like Kill Bill than any most of his other movies.

4/5/2020 12:29:41 AM

Yeah Ranch was by far my favorite scene followed by Pitt and Bruce Lee fighting

4/5/2020 1:22:50 AM

just finished the novelization by Tarantino. thoroughly enjoyed it.

there’s a chapter in the book that would’ve been one of the best scenes in the movie had he shot it

8/3/2021 10:26:23 PM

Man the Bruce Lee fight was suspect already but has somehow aged worse. Why do weirdos make good movies.

8/3/2021 10:40:05 PM

it’s better in the book

not to get too deep in to it, but it does a better job of explaining that Lee wasn’t the Bruce Lee that we think of when that fight happened, and that Brad Pitt’s character was one on the most notorious killers in WWII/revered stuntman in Hollywood at the time

[Edited on August 3, 2021 at 11:05 PM. Reason : .]

8/3/2021 10:55:38 PM

Yea i heard that explanation around the time I saw it and mostly accepted it til I heard QT shitting on Lee.

8/3/2021 11:26:54 PM

what did he say to shit on Lee?

8/3/2021 11:56:29 PM

We watched it again after listening to a QT podcast interview that talked about the book (w/ Dax Shepard, ARmchair Expert, I think)

I liked it more the second time.

8/4/2021 11:09:09 AM

^^he basically said that Lee was unprofessional, cocky and that "American" stuntmen hated him. It's not the worst thing anyone has said about someone else but to say that in defense of the scene is pretty suspect.

8/4/2021 12:03:28 PM

thread from the dude who wrote a biography of Lee that Tarantino used as source material for the scene:

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" Delighted to get name checked by Quentin Tarantino (one of my fav directors) on @joerogan show. But to clarify, my biography of Lee DID NOT say that "Bruce had nothing but disrespect for American stuntmen." (1/4) What I said in my book is that Bruce wanted to change American fight choreography so that the blows would miss by millimeters rather than by feet (aka the John Wayne punch) in order to better sell the technique. (2/4) But in the process, Bruce did bang up some of the stuntmen on the Green Hornet, which pissed them off. So they asked Gene LeBell to settle Bruce down. (3/4) It wasn't an issue of disrespect but a difference in fight choreography philosophy and style. For further reference, see 'Bruce Lee: A Life,' pgs 186-7. (4/4) "

so it seems that QT clumsily described his inspiration for the scene, and was wrong to assume that “Lee had nothing but disrespect for American stuntmen”, but that backstory gives more context for the scene

8/4/2021 12:59:07 PM

I didn't mean to start an argument with you (or anyone) btw, just happened you bumped it and I saw the thread and remembered the interview.

But yea it seems like QT almost had a grudge against Lee. Doubly weird for someone who owes so much of his career to movies by people like Lee.

8/4/2021 1:17:51 PM

he reveres stuntmen and has multiple movies featuring stuntmen as main characters

it makes sense that he’d read something about stuntmen not liking Lee in 1966 and writing a scene about it

8/4/2021 1:23:00 PM

I get it I just think it's shitty. I'm not gonna boycott his movies or anything just will continue to let that scene annoy me. I'm only punishing myself really.

8/4/2021 2:06:16 PM