JK All American 6839 Posts user info edit post |
don't taze me bro 9/20/2007 4:29:59 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
9/20/2007 4:38:43 PM |
chembob Yankee Cowboy 27011 Posts user info edit post |
9/20/2007 4:39:25 PM |
terpball All American 22489 Posts user info edit post |
Don't tase me bro!!!!
don don don don
Don't tase me bro!!!
I DIDNT DO ANYTHING!
9/20/2007 4:40:22 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
aaaahahahahahahahahahha 9/20/2007 5:05:26 PM |
TheBullDoza All American 7117 Posts user info edit post |
LOL
go with christ, bra 9/20/2007 5:06:56 PM |
Beardawg61 Trauma Specialist 15492 Posts user info edit post |
10/10 on the t-shirt 9/20/2007 5:09:42 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
just as an fyi:
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/nation/5150740.html
autistic teen tasered to subdue him 9/20/2007 5:21:19 PM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
just fyi, i really do respect both sides of this discussion. next time a cop approaches me its gonna have to be... "don't taze me, bro!" 9/20/2007 5:35:26 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
haha i remember i was at the bobcats timberwolves game last year (Michael Olowakandi had been recently arrested for being drunk and violent in a nightclub and had been tased)
I yelled something about "give him the taser!" and the cops in earshot laughed 9/20/2007 5:36:23 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
remember those incidents where the police thought they were using non-lethal force when using a taser...then got carried away?
and then the victim died as a direct result.
gotta love those adult spankings
LOLOLOLOL] 9/20/2007 5:42:13 PM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
it's funny, but not really that funny. if that makes any sense. 9/20/2007 5:43:07 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
there is no doubt in my mind that cops get off on tasing people
they love that shit 9/20/2007 5:59:19 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
i know i would 9/20/2007 8:05:00 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck yeah!
I wish tasing people was part of my job 9/20/2007 8:07:58 PM |
dmidkiff All American 3324 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.bustedtees.com/shirt/donttasemebro/male
9/22/2007 7:58:55 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
emce, since you are an expert and all, can you show me one death that was blamed just on the taser?
What I read are they contribute to the death, but dont directly cause it. IE, the person has some underlying condition. When I diabetic eats themselves into a coma and dies, do you blame the candybar? I doubt it.
Do you not hear them telling the kid to lay down or he will be tasered, they say it a couple of times. I guess that doesnt matter to you, or the fact that the kid is fine. Details, details. 9/22/2007 8:10:10 AM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What I read are they contribute to the death, but dont directly cause it. IE, the person has some underlying condition. When I diabetic eats themselves into a coma and dies, do you blame the candybar? I doubt it." |
that's a pretty good point. next time i shoot someone i'll just say "the bullets only contributed to his death, it was loss of blood and organ failure that really killed him."9/22/2007 8:21:07 AM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
yep, shooting=stunning? I can see you thought that through.
Why do you all act like police just go around tasering people for fun? Every video of the taser Ive seen the cops yell at the guy to stop before they are tasered. All except for the one man with the kid.
This kid had a choice to cooperate or be stunned. He was given that choice and made his own decision. End of fucking story.
I dunno if someone has that stats on it, but it would be interesting if woman cops use the taser more than males. I would think so, but I wonder what that stats show.
Of 75 people who died after being shot with a taser or stun gun, the taser was considered a potentially contributory cause of death in 27 per cent of cases. Source: Drs J Strote and H Range Hutson from the University of Washington Medical Centre in Seattle and reported in the October/December 2006 issue of Prehospital Emergency Care.
The use of cocaine boosts the shock value of a taser or stun gun by 50 to 100 per cent. Source: Ten researchers led by Dr D Lakkireddy from the Cleveland Clinic Foundation in Cleveland, Ohio, and reported in the August 2006 issue of the Journal of the American College of Cardiology.
Use of tasers and stun guns results in fewer injuries to police compared with using clubs, dogs, or handguns to restrain suspects. Source: Drs E Jenkinson, C Neeson, and A Bleetman from the Heart of England NHS Foundation Trust in Solihull, United Kingdom and reported in the July 2006 Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine.
[Edited on September 22, 2007 at 8:41 AM. Reason : .] 9/22/2007 8:38:08 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
1. I never claimed to be an expert. I just read the news a lot. And I've read about quite a few deaths caused by tasers.
2. sure. with almost no effort, I found two articles for ya. http://www.thedenverchannel.com/health/5293444/detail.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/11/05/national/main653959.shtml
point being, maybe these nifty little 'automatic adult spankers' shouldn't be used in the first place if they.....oh, I don't know.....can kill you.
as for that little retarded comment about an underlying condition: perhaps these super nifty "automatic adult spankers" shouldn't be used and/or viewed as a form of non- lethal force if it increases the chance of death?
I mean, what kind of twisted logic are you trying to use here? I don't know. Maybe you're right...
Quote : | "that's a pretty good point. next time i shoot someone i'll just say "the bullets only contributed to his death, it was loss of blood and organ failure that really killed him."" |
I think you're missing the meaning of non- lethal force it means that people don't die
but to apply this more towards this thread: given that tasers cause death if the officer happens to get carried away, how can you advocate it's use in this situation? Hell, the multiple cops could have fucking pushed the guy out of the room with less effort than it took to wrestle him to the ground.]9/22/2007 9:59:38 AM |
One All American 10570 Posts user info edit post |
don't tase me, bro! 9/22/2007 10:21:52 AM |
Jader All American 2869 Posts user info edit post |
i think someone just got pwnt 9/22/2007 12:06:16 PM |
carzak All American 1657 Posts user info edit post |
I was reading this on the Taser site:
Deployment Health Risks
Sudden In-Custody Death Syndrome Awareness. If a subject is exhibiting signs or behaviors(2) that are associated with Sudden In-Custody Death Syndrome,(3) consider combining use of a TASER device with immediate physical restraint techniques and medical assistance.
2 Signs of Sudden In-Custody Death Syndrome include: extreme agitation, bizarre behavior, inappropriate nudity, imperviousness to pain, paranoia, exhaustive exertion, “superhuman” strength, hallucinations, sweating profusely, etc.
3 Sudden in-custody death results from a complex set of physiological and psychological conditions characterized by irrational behavior, extreme exertion, and potentially fatal changes in blood chemistry. Promptly capturing, controlling, and restraining a subject exhibiting signs of these conditions may end the struggle and allow early medical care intervention.
They actualy have a term for it.
[Edited on September 22, 2007 at 2:46 PM. Reason : .] 9/22/2007 2:44:49 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
aha
God Bless the Internet
9/22/2007 2:51:48 PM |
rufus All American 3583 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "that's a pretty good point. next time i shoot someone i'll just say "the bullets only contributed to his death, it was loss of blood and organ failure that really killed him."" |
Quote : | "I think you're missing the meaning of non- lethal force it means that people don't die" |
actually, my point was simply that eyedrb's argument was retarded.9/22/2007 3:54:34 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "point being, maybe these nifty little 'automatic adult spankers' shouldn't be used in the first place if they.....oh, I don't know.....can kill you.
as for that little retarded comment about an underlying condition: perhaps these super nifty "automatic adult spankers" shouldn't be used and/or viewed as a form of non- lethal force if it increases the chance of death?
I think you're missing the meaning of non- lethal force it means that people don't die
given that tasers cause death if the officer happens to get carried away, how can you advocate it's use in this situation? " |
Can you name for me a single use of force that does not increase your chance of death or have a chance of killing you if the cop gets carried away? Especially if you have an underlying condition?
Quote : | "Hell, the multiple cops could have fucking pushed the guy out of the room with less effort than it took to wrestle him to the ground. " |
And when he stumbles from being pushed out of the room and cracks his skull on the table outside, then what?9/22/2007 5:11:47 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
^^ oh, I may have worded that wrong
I was quoting you because I agreed, and couldn't have said it any better myself rufus
I was merely adding to it
^ well, we can minimize this situation all day long. By that logic, the police could prevent all crime by doing nothing, and letting all criminals (man kind) die of old age...
I was saying that tasers greatly increase the probability of death in this way: Let's say you have a 50/50 chance of dying at any given moment. The use of a taser would increase the chance of you dying 3X amount. A gun, maybe 6X. Getting pushed down....meh, probably .5X. Fact of the matter is that tasers kill people. I've never seen a kid get spanked to death.
But since you seem to be pulling extremes out of your ass here, I'm going to go buy a bubble and enclose myself in it] 9/22/2007 5:15:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
9/22/2007 6:01:00 PM |
TheBullDoza All American 7117 Posts user info edit post |
Man....."don't tase me bro" is the next thing i'm gonna start yelling at random people on the skreet 9/22/2007 6:02:09 PM |
Nerdchick All American 37009 Posts user info edit post |
don't tase me, bro!! 9/22/2007 6:34:27 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
thats honestly the only thing i've taken away from this whole ordeal...that because of it, the phrase "dont tase me bro" is funny 9/22/2007 6:38:18 PM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well, we can minimize this situation all day long. By that logic, the police could prevent all crime by doing nothing, and letting all criminals (man kind) die of old age..." |
Hey, don't look at me, I'm not the one who said that they shouldn't be used if they can kill you or increase your chance of death.
Quote : | "I was saying that tasers greatly increase the probability of death in this way: Let's say you have a 50/50 chance of dying at any given moment. The use of a taser would increase the chance of you dying 3X amount. A gun, maybe 6X. Getting pushed down....meh, probably .5X. Fact of the matter is that tasers kill people. I've never seen a kid get spanked to death. " |
I've seen people get beat downs ending in severe injuries though. The whole reason the taser was introduced was in part because physical fights with suspects have an extremely high chance of severely injuring someone or getting someone killed.
Any time an officer gets into a physical altercation with someone, both persons chances of dying go way up. Relatively speaking, a taser gives you a better chance of walking away than any other use of force the police can apply. It takes no real force for a baton to ensure you need thousands in surgery, OC can kill anyone with asthma or difficulties breathing, joint locks and such have high risks of dislocating things and have you wondered why they've banned police from using choke holds?
For your average person, a taser probably increases your chance of dying by the same amount as being pushed down, or do you seriously believe that a taser is only half as likely to kill you as a gun shot?9/22/2007 8:47:51 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
"Of 75 people who died after being shot with a taser or stun gun, the taser was considered a potentially contributory cause of death in 27 per cent of cases."
Ill repeat that. It is also known that certain drugs will increase the risk of cardiac arrest, and amplify the effects of the stun gun. My point is, so what. Its not like these people DONT have a choice in the matter.
Its a pretty simple equation, do what the authorities tell you... you dont get the juice.
BTW, any idea how many people die while in police custody? Or died from battons? Im just curious.
Our course some people are more sensitive than others. Do you consider penniclin a lethal drug? Well it can be to some, so should we stop using it as well?
im enjoying the discussion though. But i still feel is the adult spanking/attention getter. 9/22/2007 8:48:07 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What I read are they contribute to the death, but dont directly cause it. IE, the person has some underlying condition. When I diabetic eats themselves into a coma and dies, do you blame the candybar? I doubt it." |
you're a fucking retard. those are two totally different things.
Quote : | "point being, maybe these nifty little 'automatic adult spankers' shouldn't be used in the first place if they.....oh, I don't know.....can kill you." |
the TASER isn't the problem in and of itself...it's a much safer (for the victim) alternative than shooting, which would end up being necessary more often without the TASER.
it's that idiot cops (and hospital security guards) have this crazy idea that TASERing someone isn't a big deal, and they can just go zapping whoever they want anytime they aren't getting their way.
Quote : | "This kid had a choice to cooperate or be stunned. He was given that choice and made his own decision. End of fucking story." |
Quote : | "Its a pretty simple equation, do what the authorities tell you... you dont get the juice." |
well, the other point is that cops are supposedly constrained by the law--they (on paper) can't just go around doing whatever they want to get their way, and they aren't supposed to have a blank check to be able to order you around however they want. John Kerry is a big boy--that dude didn't do anything that a senior U.S. Senator with aspirations of leading the free world couldn't have handled on his own.
Yeah, he was being a douchebag, but what the hell does a politician expect when giving a speech to a bunch of college kids? The cops had no business forcibly removing him from there (if ANYONE walked up to me and grabbed me like that, i'd bust his fucking teeth out, and if I was getting arrested anyway, you'd better bet that I'd punch, kick, gouge, and twist every step of the way), and no business TASERing him when they had basically subdued with with like 5 people, especially since he was clearly not dangerous to ANYONE.
i hope that douchebag kid sues everyone concerned and wins a shit ton of money. I hate to say that, since he's obviously an annoying faggot, but maybe that'll teach the authorities a lesson.
Oh, and John Kerry is a big pussy for not having the fortitude to take charge of the situation once it got out of control.
[Edited on September 23, 2007 at 12:04 AM. Reason : asdfasd]9/23/2007 12:03:00 AM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Oh, and John Kerry is a big pussy for not having the fortitude to take charge of the situation once it got out of control." |
couldn't agree more.9/23/2007 12:08:58 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i thought he was berating kerry
id be laughing if i were him
DONT TAZE ME BRO 9/23/2007 12:28:59 AM |
1337 b4k4 All American 10033 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The cops had no business forcibly removing him from there" |
They had every business removig him, that's the whole point. He was asked by the event organizers to leave (that's the part of the video where he goes "THank you, I'll finish my question and then I have more") from that point on, he was trespassing and the cops had every right to forcibly remove him at the request of the event organizers.9/23/2007 10:07:37 AM |
hooksaw All American 16500 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At a John Kerry speech at the University of Florida, a student was asking the senator so many annoying questions that police tasered him. . . . Of course, people in Washington were stunned by this. What? John Kerry's still giving speeches?" |
Quote : | "Speaking of John Kerry, a University of Florida student was tasered after asking John Kerry about the 2004 election. . . . I believe this is the first time anyone's ever been electrified at a John Kerry speech." |
Quote : | "Another person was tasered today during a John Kerry speech. . .not for being disruptive. I guess while listening to Kerry, the guy slipped into a coma." |
--Jay Leno9/25/2007 1:28:02 AM |
FitchNCSU All American 3283 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Please, fuck those cops. They had no reason to even TOUCH him - Cops are the supreme being in the land who are allowed to go taser anyone who does anything they don't like?
Shit, that's why a good cop-popping is due every now and then - they're a bunch of dickless cunts" |
Wow. Look at this genius. You're almost as retarded at the UF kid.
This punk knew he would make a big shit-show that would make the news. He baited the cops and got what he asked for. He was entitled to ONE question (like everyone else) and decided to make himself the center of attention. If you go to his website, you can tell he is a self-absorbed little twink. He got what he deserved. Unfortunately though, the cops were dumb enough to give him exactly what he wanted- and more.9/25/2007 2:40:17 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
the students made the rules the students cut his mic the police enforced the students rules 9/25/2007 2:41:10 PM |
soulfire963 Suspended 1587 Posts user info edit post |
i bet that kids happy as hell to have started a new phrase "Don't tase me bro!" hes famous now. 9/25/2007 3:06:11 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, he's famous. What's his name again? All I can remember is "Don't tase me bro!" 9/25/2007 3:13:17 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Just don't call a black cop "Bro". 9/25/2007 3:23:03 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
he baited the cops? 9/25/2007 4:03:33 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Don't tase me bro!"" |
9/25/2007 4:04:14 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
What's the big deal. It's the Democratic Party's version of free speech.
9/25/2007 4:07:28 PM |
Wraith All American 27257 Posts user info edit post |
http://dtmbkombat.ytmnd.com/
hahahahaha 9/25/2007 10:08:29 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHHA 9/25/2007 10:09:58 PM |
AC Slater All American 9276 Posts user info edit post |
might as well post some more
http://canttazethis.ytmnd.com/
http://ghosttasers.ytmnd.com/
http://dtmb-punch-out.ytmnd.com/
http://whatisdtmb.ytmnd.com/ 9/25/2007 10:32:11 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
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