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"they always show up when they say they will"

No. They actually have a history of not showing up to a lot of events they claim to be picketing.

They request police protection and a safe exit route at the places they protest. I suspect they are far less likely to show up when they don't get free protection services. I'd make them stand on their own two feet if I were Chapel Hill PD.

3/16/2008 10:17:07 PM

I have a feeling Chapel Hill wont be so liberal when these jackasses have their day in court.

[Edited on March 16, 2008 at 10:35 PM. Reason : .]

3/16/2008 10:35:27 PM

O'RLY?

3/16/2008 10:54:15 PM

wat?

3/16/2008 11:05:39 PM

^^^

3/16/2008 11:16:13 PM

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"getting your ass kicked by Durham SWAT and then spending a few decades in prison while your baby mamma raises your kid by herself."

I like how in our society the lowliest of scum and most non-productive members have the highest rate of fertility. No wonder our economy is going to hell. Hopefully with this guy behind bars we can at least stop him from making any more future thugs.

3/18/2008 6:38:57 PM

lower class people always breed more, its always been that way

3/18/2008 9:02:04 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upyewL0oaWA

3/18/2008 10:32:44 PM

^ Ha-ha! I was going to post that.

3/18/2008 11:00:26 PM

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"lower class people always breed more, its always been that way"

Some social theories theorize that the existence of so many wars throughout human history is due to this issue.

3/19/2008 11:29:29 AM

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"lower class people always breed more, its always been that way "

yep and hispanics will prob breed us all out this century

3/20/2008 1:49:42 PM

I was thinking about where the ATM was, where the body was, and where the car was and I'm almost certain that she was in the back seat with the other perp.

3/20/2008 4:57:52 PM

Well, that settles it then.

3/20/2008 5:35:51 PM

Just my $0.02.

3/20/2008 5:38:44 PM

Both indicted.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2658138/

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"Hillsborough, N.C. — An Orange County grand jury on Monday indicted two men in connection with the shooting death of Eve Marie Carson, the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's student body president. Demario James Atwater, 21, and Laurence Alvin Lovette, 17, both of Durham, were each indicted on a charge of first-degree murder. Orange County District Attorney Jim Woodall said a Rule 24 hearing is scheduled for May 5 to determine whether to pursue the death penalty against Atwater. Woodall said he has not decided whether to try the case as a capital case but that state statute requires the hearing to be set 45 days from indictment. Last week, a Durham County grand jury indicted Lovette on a murder charge in the Jan. 18 death of Abhijit Mahato, a 29-year-old Duke University graduate student. Lovette is not eligible for the death penalty. A 2005 U.S. Supreme Court ruling prohibits the execution of anyone under 18 at the time of a crime. The harshest punishment he could face, if convicted of either crime, would be life in prison. While responding to reports of gunfire, Chapel Hill police found Carson, 22, around 5 a.m. March 5 about a half-mile from the UNC campus. Her body was identified the next day. According to a stolen-vehicle report, she had been shot in the head."

Although on principal I'm opposed to the death penalty, I'm disappointed that Lovette isn't eligible. The upside is that maybe he'll figure some things out in prison and talk his kid out of being a complete waste of life like him.

3/31/2008 7:58:49 PM

He will undoubtedly find Islam.

/racism

3/31/2008 8:23:56 PM

^^ big deal. indicted = formally accused. a.k.a. they're not going to throw the case out before a trial...no shit, i think we pretty much knew that. i dont see how that warrants a big press release

3/31/2008 8:28:32 PM

Personally I always thought the death penalty seemed like an easy way out.. maybe it gets worse after they die, maybe it doesn't.. either way making them sit around in prison for the rest of their life seems worse to me.

So, basically I don't care if he isn't eligible for the death penalty

3/31/2008 9:20:32 PM

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"So, basically I don't care if he isn't eligible for the death penalty"

i agree, the death penalty is an easy way out and sitting in jail isn't much of a punishment, if only people could be eligible for the TORTURE PENALTY

3/31/2008 10:00:58 PM

yeah fuck america and everything it stands for

3/31/2008 10:08:04 PM

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"Both indicted."

that doesn't mean a lot. i don't think you were trying to imply that it did, but i just wanted to point that out since it got mentioned.

little personal experience just to show that indictment doesn't have to mean that evidence was found, or anything like that -- at least based on what happened to me, and the way i understand it:

misdemeanors can be tried in district court, because a judge can take the place of a jury on those and make a ruling... but in order to have a jury trial, it has to be heard in superior court. district court is essentially plea bargain court. superior court is where you have jury selection and all your motions and probable cause hearings and all that.

i had a felony charge pending in district court in wake county. i was offered a plea deal, but i refused because i wasn't guilty and i wanted a jury trial. so i ended up being indicted and got a new court date for a first appearance in superior court. i'm not sure if it was heard by an actual grand jury, or if they just sent down a complaint

but i'd imagine in a case like this, they would automatically transfer it to superior court, cause they know they won't be offering a plea deal (since he can't get the death penalty, they really have nothing to hold over his head to make him plead guilty)

i heard someone talking about indictments, and they thought it meant that it was based off a grand jury hearing some pretty good evidence. just wanted to point out that it doesn't necessarily mean that.

3/31/2008 10:13:52 PM

Yeah, I'm not confusing an indictment with a guilty verdict, we just hadn't had an update in a few weeks and I thought that I'd post it.

3/31/2008 11:18:10 PM

word. your post inspired mine, just wanted to clear up beforehand that it wasn't a disagreement. just me rambling

3/31/2008 11:20:40 PM

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2841216/

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"Eve Carson autopsy results won't be released now Hillsborough, N.C. — The results of the autopsy performed on Eve Carson's body will temporarily remain under seal to protect the integrity of the ongoing investigation. Superior Court Judge Allen Baddour ordered that the documents relating to the death of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill student body president be sealed at the request of the District Attorney Jim Woodall. Police found Carson, 22, dead near the UNC campus while responding to reports of gunfire. Authorities have never said exactly how she died. A stolen-vehicle report, however, indicated she was shot in the head. In a motion to seal the report, Woodall said there are details about Carson's death that should remain confidential and that releasing the report could cause speculation about the significance of those details. Several search warrants relating to the case are also under seal for similar reasons. Demario James Atwater, 21, and Laurence Alvin Lovette Jr., 17, are each charged with first-degree murder in Carson's death, Atwater could face the death penalty, and a hearing on the matter scheduled for May 5 has been rescheduled for July 7. Lovette is too young to be eligible for the death penalty if convicted. Superior Court Judge Donald Stephens postponed Atwater's hearing because the search warrants and autopsy report would have been discussed. He said it would be in the interest of justice to keep the information confidential for now."

5/11/2008 9:17:33 PM

I'll laugh if instead of getting the death sentence these two thugs spend the next 50 years getting ass raped in prison.

5/11/2008 9:21:23 PM

those two fuckers should be summarily executed....well them and people like them. i bet they think they are straight gangsta for killing an unarmed innocent woman.

I saw a show once where they were interviewing some old mafia guy. He basically said "these kids today think they are gangsters, hell no. real gangsters were about making money sure, but we had honor. we lived by a code, we had respect. we were professional. we didnt target innocent people, kids, women and cops. these gangstas are just thugs"

i more or less agree with him

5/11/2008 10:43:02 PM

^^regardless, they'll spend the next 50 years getting ass raped before they ever see an execution chamber....yay for shitty justice.

5/11/2008 11:02:24 PM

^^

Those guys have street cred now! lol

That is the difference between your "gangs" crips/bloods/latin kings and actual mafia style organizations like the Italian or Russian mafia. I was told in Baltimore one of the safest areas was the italian district as the local "gangster" population stays clear b.c they know better than to be stirring trouble with the mafia is a good way to end up dead in a dumpster.

5/11/2008 11:44:25 PM

^ That wouldn't surprise me at all. It was pretty much the same way in NY.

5/12/2008 7:12:27 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/higher_education/story/1069240.html

She recieved a degree yesterday. I've heard some people say it was the right thing to do and others said it wasn't? Thoughts?????

5/12/2008 5:59:40 PM

i think its a good thing

5/12/2008 6:11:50 PM

it doesnt really matter either way

5/12/2008 6:16:48 PM

its not going to bring her back to life or anything but it seems like the right thing to do

5/12/2008 6:19:58 PM

I think it's kinda cool to honor her like that too.

5/12/2008 10:34:32 PM

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"^ That wouldn't surprise me at all. It was pretty much the same way in NY."

most the mob is gone but it was the case in the past.

[Edited on May 12, 2008 at 10:41 PM. Reason : !]

5/12/2008 10:40:14 PM

^
no they're just smarter and are into legal rackets.

they actually learn from their mistakes now.

5/13/2008 12:33:29 AM

if they can give out 5 honorary doctorates, including this one:

< Jessye Norman, opera singer, recipient of a Lifetime Achievement Award for classical music and honorary ambassador to the United Nations, who will receive a doctor of music degree.

then they better give her the degree posthumously...tell those who said it's not the right thing to do to shut the fuck up

5/13/2008 3:52:01 AM

^ I couldn't have said it better.

5/13/2008 6:42:24 AM

I see no harm in giving it to her.

5/13/2008 6:43:47 AM

^^^I don't think anyone has a problem with it.

5/13/2008 10:55:00 AM

A couple of updates:

Search warrants and autopsy results may be released in June or July

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2923072/

Had Laurence Alvin Lovette been charged with burglary instead felonious breaking and entering after a Nov. 7 break-in he could have been in jail at the time of both murders.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2924869/

5/22/2008 11:20:55 PM

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"The report "raises serious questions about the overall prosecution of this matter and in particular, the degree of communication between the Durham District Attorney's Office and the prosecuting witness and the Durham Police Department," Baker wrote."

there should have been questions about the communication of the two following the Duke Lacrosse case. There is going to be volumes of case studies written about the fuck ups in the durham criminal system. Kinda sad....

5/23/2008 5:11:41 AM

http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/688741.html

6/27/2008 12:59:03 PM

Wow.

Close your windows, lock your doors.

6/27/2008 1:01:14 PM

Yikes.

6/27/2008 1:09:13 PM

Jesus.

6/27/2008 1:16:04 PM

I'd love to hear whether she was targeted for a specific reason, or if they were just trying doors and hers happened to open. Maybe we'll find out when it goes to trial. Either way...just makes it seem so much worse than if she was abducted while away from home.

6/27/2008 1:45:28 PM

god damn.

6/27/2008 1:45:45 PM

Updated version of the story from Twista's link: http://www.newsobserver.com/2811/story/1122357.html

It included this bit as well:

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"Furthermore, police tapped a cell phone call in which Atwater talked to an informant about his involvement in the crime, according to the documents. The documents indicated that police investigated the possibility that Carson was sexually assaulted. However, District Attorney Jim Woodall said today that she was not sexually assaulted. "

6/27/2008 1:58:48 PM

http://www.newsobserver.com/content/media/2008/6/27/CarsonSearchW.pdf

Link to the Warrants

6/27/2008 2:07:29 PM