"don't forget, what we are seeing right now is a DIRECT RESULT of herb's shittiness."

Actually, I think it is a direct result of no discipline on the part of the players. They play like they don't want it.... therefore, they will not.

3/13/2008 2:32:06 PM

No Johnson or Costner at all in second half plz

3/13/2008 2:32:22 PM

he better not have "focused on the positives" at halftime.

their leading scorer shut down and their still up by 7 YOU DONT FOCUS ON THE FUCKING POSITIVES

3/13/2008 2:32:28 PM

21-19 herb

3/13/2008 2:33:34 PM

go state!

3/13/2008 2:33:43 PM

Didn't earlier they say that guys were getting pissed off at each other on the bench and that one guy said it wasn't a pretty scene or something like that?

3/13/2008 2:33:52 PM

and y do u think we have such shitty players? Couldn't possibly be due to the previous shitty coach making our school unattractive to decent players, could it? naaaaaaaah

3/13/2008 2:34:25 PM

gg D

3/13/2008 2:34:38 PM

Costner is still mad Grant banged his girlie

3/13/2008 2:34:41 PM

Yea aaron you're totally right.

UCLA and Stanford don't have the esteemed basketball history of NC State.

lol.


LOL.

3/13/2008 2:34:55 PM

Quote :

"and y do u think we have such shitty players? Couldn't possibly be due to the previous shitty coach making our school unattractive to decent players, could it? naaaaaaaah"

are you high? you need to do some research homie...

3/13/2008 2:35:39 PM

we do have shitty players

3/13/2008 2:36:07 PM

waiting on a stupid substitution here

3/13/2008 2:36:32 PM

you cannot attribute that 100% to Herbie though.

3/13/2008 2:36:45 PM

Take the herb sendork circle jerk somewhere else

3/13/2008 2:37:14 PM

His point doesn't even currently makes sense.

Herb's players started graduating last year and we've gotten worse by a power of 2.

3/13/2008 2:37:21 PM

holy shit, lowe started hickson...

... its bad when you are amazed a coach made the right move personel-wise

3/13/2008 2:37:44 PM

some were brought in by sid too

this whole convo is pointless. comparing herb is useless, he's long gone.

lets just focus on how bad we suck now, mmk?

3/13/2008 2:37:55 PM

grant picks his nose on camera on the bench.

3/13/2008 2:38:19 PM

you are an idiot if you dont think Sendek is still having an effect on this program.

3/13/2008 2:38:25 PM

agreed

take the herb debate somewhere else

3/13/2008 2:38:34 PM

3/13/2008 2:38:48 PM

Quote :

"grant picks his nose on camera on the bench."

best move all day son

3/13/2008 2:39:59 PM

Herb also produced with his players, made the NCAA's 4 years in a row, beat Duke and UNC, etc, etc. We haven't been the last place team in the conference since before I was a state fan, which was before I was a freshman in 2000.

3/13/2008 2:40:11 PM

I mean I don't particularly care either way.

I just want to know why everyone is so adamant in believing we're going to somehow magically get better next year.

3/13/2008 2:40:44 PM

where can i see the game?

3/13/2008 2:40:51 PM

Sure, I'll drop the Herb conversation

... How about the 2008-2009 Football season?

3/13/2008 2:40:54 PM

it was 5 years. bttt. what's going on this game? I have 2 others on...

3/13/2008 2:40:57 PM

Sendek was 8-38 against UNC and Duke with 4 of those wins coming against Matt Doherty.

Wiki son!

3/13/2008 2:41:44 PM

RAWR RAWR RAWR HERB SENDECK RAWR RAWR RAWR SIDNEY LOWE RAWR RAWR RAWR

shaddup faggots



back to us sucking ass

3/13/2008 2:41:50 PM

http://channelsurfing.net

click on the wakeforest game link

3/13/2008 2:41:54 PM

what's happening?

3/13/2008 2:42:24 PM

I love when people try and say we have shitty players. There was nice article that gave points to teams based on their recruiting rankings (average of 3 sites... rivals, scout and something else). Duke was first. Carolina second. Guess who was third? That's right, old NC State.

Now I don't think recruiting rankings are the end all, be all... but to say we have shitty players is ridiculous...

3/13/2008 2:42:31 PM

i'll be the first to say i think we'll suck next year as well....no real reason to believe we wont

3/13/2008 2:42:46 PM

but yeah, not even two years removed from Herb, and Sendek has no effect on the current state of our program Nevermind the fact that the PLAYERS HE FUCKING RECRUITED ARE STILL HERE.

3/13/2008 2:43:02 PM

JJ has 15

gavin only has two shots...missed both

3/13/2008 2:43:57 PM

23-34

come on state!

3/13/2008 2:44:04 PM

ahahaha what a fucking shot.

3/13/2008 2:44:34 PM

jesus burro, go back to chit chat and receivedeath threads

3/13/2008 2:44:36 PM

gavin and fells need to go the basket man

no reason gavin should only have two shots

3/13/2008 2:44:58 PM

I never said we had "shitty players".... I said they have no discipline

you can have the best damn players ever (and we do have some good ones) but do they produce... NO

> I seem to remember us being the #1 team in the country in free throws not long ago

3/13/2008 2:45:25 PM

8-30 from the field

3/13/2008 2:46:12 PM

""Everytime we play, I just want to throw-up"

3/13/2008 2:46:18 PM

down 13

3/13/2008 2:46:27 PM

YOU CAN'T WIN HALF-ASSED.

3/13/2008 2:47:07 PM

This is fucking painful to watch.

3/13/2008 2:47:22 PM

lol packer is grilling them

3/13/2008 2:47:40 PM

benny hill theme again

3/13/2008 2:47:42 PM

any good packer quotes?

3/13/2008 2:48:00 PM

even though most of what he is saying about us is true, i fucking hate billy packer. that carolina-cock-sucking-asshole is far too biased towards a team to be a decent commentator.

3/13/2008 2:48:35 PM