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" It takes a GREAT defense to stop them like we did today"

(emphasis mine)

Wait a minute, y'all let some Tampa Bay homer with a big mouth get his thread to NINE PAGES?

sheesh



[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 7:35 PM. Reason : there's irony somewhere in me starting the 10th page...]

11/30/2008 7:34:49 PM

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"This comment was made by someone named "stixman" earlier. Now previous to that statement, he had never posted on here before, included in this short list is Cali_J, JCTarheel, and Wolfey. Its one thing to argue with me thru the week and then come shove it in my face, but its another to sit their like a bitch with your tail between your legs all week and not defend your team and then come talk shit. No BITCHASSNESS IN HERE!!!"

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Panthers will finish 11-5 and make the playoffs.

11/23/2008 7:10:22 PM

11/30/2008 9:48:06 PM

Fuck, I want to go to the tampa bay game.

11/30/2008 9:48:48 PM

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"The Panthers have an extremely hard schedule coming up: @ATL, @GB, TB, DEN, @NYG, @NO. In that list of games, I see 2 definite losses in there (NYG and GB)."

WRONG WRONG WRONG! This is just WRONG! What an IDIOT! Jesus you don't know the FACTS. We beat Greenbay, that is such a FACT! WRONG WRONG WRONG! See I'm throwing back at you what you throw at us.


See I can post like you too.

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 9:57 PM. Reason : ]

11/30/2008 9:57:12 PM

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"Expect a large dose of Ryan Grant this weekend. "

Haha good call. He almost got 40 yards!

11/30/2008 10:20:53 PM

GB is hott right now and Lambeau is getting cold, that is a definite loss

Cardinals (yeah they'll be contending for a wildcard since someone else will win the division...), Bucs, Packers, Bears, Falcons, Skins, and now the Cowboys all breathing down their neck

What do 90% odds mean anyway? I legitimately don't understand, I trust my Tampa Bay homerism over any kind of statistical trends since I bring facts

[Edited on November 30, 2008 at 11:22 PM. Reason : I LOVE HATIN]

11/30/2008 11:17:29 PM

what if jh51085 jinxed the panthers?

12/1/2008 7:52:18 AM

Well at least I'll get to see a panther win when i get to go to the denver game....

12/1/2008 9:16:23 AM

After seeing what DEN did to NYJ versus what TB put up against NO, I think the Broncos may have a better shot at winning in Charlotte than the Bucs....

12/1/2008 2:37:04 PM

why isn't jh51085 showing up here anymore?

12/1/2008 2:41:37 PM

^^ But Oakland stomped Denver a week or two ago so I wouldn't make them out to be offensive (or defensive) studs.

12/1/2008 3:59:14 PM

win next monday and we'll get the division, lose and we're looking at the wildcard.

if we come out aggressive like yesterday, we'll take it.

12/1/2008 4:26:28 PM

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"Cardinals (yeah they'll be contending for a wildcard since someone else will win the division...)"

1st Id like to point out that Tree twista is a complete idiot!!! Is it me or do his statements make no sense. Id love for him to quit posting, but that wont happen so Ill move on. Also Id like to address the Ryan Grant statement, no he did not run all over you, Brandon Jackson did, which is worse. Nearly 8 yards a carry.

Also, posting 1 lowsey post doesnt give you credibility to come shove the win in my face. Back up your argument and then when you are right, let me kmow about it. 2 fools on here wrote "LOCK" and "the Panthers will make playoffs" and then come talk shit whenever the Panthers win. Where were you when they lost to ATL???? Exactly, Treetwista (as unknowledgable as he is) was still here at least trying (failing).

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"win next monday and we'll get the division, lose and we're looking at the wildcard."

I still dont see this. Especially what Denver did yesterday and how NO is all of a sudden an offensive juggernaut. I could still see Panthers going 10-6 if they beat Tampa. Again, that schedule is so damn tough. On the flip side, I still predict them going 10-6 and losing to Tampa, New York, and either Denver or NO. And I actually looked at the tiebreak today and if they go 10-6, their is a great chance that the Skins would get the tiebreak over the Panthers (Cowboys get the 5th seed) due to conference record

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 5:36 PM. Reason : g]

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 5:37 PM. Reason : d]

12/1/2008 5:34:23 PM

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"Is it me or do his statements make no sense"

its definitely you...heres what you said:

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"Not to mention with Giants a lock for #1 seed and Cardinals, Bucs, Packers, Bears, Falcons, Skins, and now the Cowboys all breathing down their neck with easier schedules, the future looks dim unfortunately for the Panthers."

you said the Cardinals were breathing down the Panthers necks...well the only way the Cardinals could even effect whether or not the Panthers made the playoffs would be if they were competing with the Panthers for a wildcard spot, which they're not, since they already have the NFC West on lock since the 9ers and Rams and Seahawks suck...so please explain how your statement about the Cardinals challenging the Panthers for a playoff spot makes any sense because it doesnt

ps: you're still a moron

what you ought to do is worry about your Bucs, because if the Panthers win on Monday night, it might be the Cats and Falcons representing the NFC South

THE PACKERS ARE HOTT

12/1/2008 5:38:04 PM

12/1/2008 5:40:19 PM

I remember when I first started watching the NFL and was all confused about wildcards and playoff spots too, don't worry, he'll learn eventually... I did I think by.... 8th grade or so.

12/1/2008 5:44:18 PM

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"This comment was made by someone named "stixman" earlier. Now previous to that statement, he had never posted on here before, included in this short list is Cali_J, JCTarheel, and Wolfey"

Because I know better than to argue with idiocy and someone who believes that their opinion is fact. It's like talking to a brick wall, but worse...

I'd rather shoot myself in the leg...

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 7:10 PM. Reason : ...]

12/1/2008 7:10:20 PM

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"Because I know better than to argue with idiocy"

Ya like my idiocy when I called the ATL game right. And if you dont want to waste your time, then get the fuck out of here. Dont talk shit if you arent even going to back up your team.

And Tree, that comment was made many posts ago, the comment you made made no sense. Clarify, as I do.

12/1/2008 7:39:46 PM

^^

that's not cooool dogggg

12/1/2008 7:45:18 PM

Arizona has a 0% chance of effecting whether or not the Panthers make the playoffs

is that clear enough for you?

boy you sure do love falling back on your falcons beat panthers prediction which you made "many posts ago"...but you don't want to own up to your Cardinals comment, which was made in the same (original) post? big surprise...the same post by the way that so definitively stated that the Panthers had no chance in Green Bay...and you claimed the Bears and Packers were a threat to keep Carolina out of the playoffs...hahahahahahahah good call genius...the Panthers are 6 games over .500...the Bears and Packers are .500 or worse...but pick them to make the playoffs ahead of the Panthers

so by my calculations, so far your predictions are about 16.7% correct so far

i'll take my 90% all day and gladly wager $texas on it

12/1/2008 7:58:39 PM

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"Ya like my idiocy when I called the ATL game right."

I will humor you...

because it's definitely going out on a limb when you predict a team to win at home that has only lost one game at home this season, in a division that is now 22-2 at home.

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"Dont talk shit if you arent even going to back up your team."

The thing is I don't need to back my team up because they do it themselves, with their play on the field, the only thing that really matters

12/1/2008 7:59:09 PM

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"Ya like my idiocy when I called the ATL game right."

Ya like your idiocy when you called the Green Bay game incorrectly.

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 8:07 PM. Reason : If you continue to pick games at a 50% success rate, we'll be 11-5 and in the playoffs]

12/1/2008 8:03:35 PM

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"I see 2 definite losses in there (NYG and GB)"

0 for 1

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 8:10 PM. Reason : ^if the rest of his picks are 100% accurate, we'll be 11-5 and in the playoffs lol]

12/1/2008 8:05:46 PM

So you had a 50-50 chance of getting it right. Plus playing the statistics that the home team in the division is undefeated this season. Good job nostradumbass. I will tell you one thing the Bucs have not started games well all season. If the Panthers get a lead this won't be the Chiefs or the Lions you're playing a team who is much better. The Panthers will be pumped for this game to avenge the embarassment in Tampa earlier this season. The Bucs do have a stout defense their offense has been somewhat anemic the past few weeks. Contain Garcia and you can beat the Bucs, albeit that is something the Panthers have had trouble with in the past. I think the stat holds up the home team wins in a tough game by 10 points.

12/1/2008 8:11:12 PM

On the Bucs vs Panthers game. I have searched and I really cannot find any hard evidence or facts (as of right now) that show how the Bucs will win this game except for that Garcia owns the Panthers as of late (FACT; has beaten them 5 of last 5 with 3 different teams) and that we beat them 27-3, but that was in Tampa. Still, 27-3 is pretty much an ass woopin. Also, Dunn averages about 4.4 yds per carry against Carolina aka owns you too. I expect Jake Delhomme to throw dumbly and Tampa to make him sorry. We shut down DeAngelo and although I wont say we have shut down every runner we have played, he have done very well against good runners in the league (Turner, DeAngelo, MB3, Peterson) and although most of them were in TB, no runner has really lit us up on the ground besides KC's Charles. I dont see DeAngelo running well (above) and I think your game will rely on Jake's arm, and as the 3rd best intercepting team in the league and the 4th best defense overall, Ill take that challenge.
STAT Prediction: TB: Garcia: 220 yds, 1 td Dunn & Caddy: 145 totals yds, 2 td Bryant: 73 yds
Car: Joke Delhomme: 275, 2 td. 4 int DW and Stewart: 83 total yds Smith: 119 yds, 1 td

And Im not sure about this talk about Tampa not doing so well right now, we are on a 4 game win streak with a offense ranking 16th and a defense ranking 4th, comparing that to Carolina's 14th ranked offense and 7th ranked defense, with Carolina being very unbalanced offensively (22nd pass, 7th run).

12/1/2008 8:18:40 PM

I'd rather have Joke Delhomme than Jeff Gayrcia any day of the week

also yes, Jeff Garcia has had the Panthers number lately, but you forgot one little stat in your assessment of the game:

the Panthers are 6-0 at home...that streak isn't about to end on Monday night

also I hope Garcia scrambles for a run and runs out of bounds, just to have 6'6" 280 pounds of Julius Peppers late hit the fuck out of him...then like Rodgers, he'll be scared to scramble for the rest of the game

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 8:26 PM. Reason : ps: how bout those Steelers!]

12/1/2008 8:21:31 PM

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"the Panthers are 6 games over .500"

WRONG, 3 games above .500, 6-6 is 500 and they are 3 wins better than that. DO you watch sports? Anyways, I have said from the beginning that Cowboys and Skins are the true enemies of Carolina getting a WC. Those are the 2 I have getting in, I said that Packers and them would be breathing down their necks, and maybe they arent right now but they will be.

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"The thing is I don't need to back my team up because they do it themselves, with their play on the field, the only thing that really matters"

Or like Tree, you arent knowledgable enough.

12/1/2008 8:32:03 PM

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"WRONG, 3 games above .500, 6-6 is 500 and they are 3 wins better than that. DO you watch sports?"

wow, this guy gets dumber and dumber every post...not only does he not understand the differnce between offense and points per game...his retarded ass doesnt even know that 9-3=6

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 8:36 PM. Reason : the packers are hott, thats a definite loss]

12/1/2008 8:35:57 PM

I officially will never respond to anything Tree says ever again. Thats a promise. Its useless. He doesn t have his shit straight and he argues useless points. Im done with him.

12/1/2008 8:45:18 PM

see i know you do plenty of trolling in this thread to try and piss off panthers fans

but i fear your misunderstanding of games over .500 is actually what you really believe, which honestly should get you permabanned from sports talk for being so mathematically retarded

12/1/2008 8:47:25 PM

I think some of you guys like to get trolled

12/1/2008 8:52:04 PM

nah see i think he is trolling a lot but i think he legitimately doesnt understand the concept of games over .500

12/1/2008 8:52:55 PM

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"also yes, Jeff Garcia has had the Panthers number lately, but you forgot one little stat in your assessment of the game: the Panthers are 6-0 at home...that streak isn't about to end on Monday night"

It's also worth pointing out that Tampa hasn't swept us in both games since 2002

12/1/2008 8:55:53 PM

games over/under 500 are how many games it would take to get to .500 9-3 is 6 games over (6 losses would get them .500) 7-5 is 2 games over.

12/1/2008 9:07:03 PM

they dont use the 4-2 = 1 game over .500 approach because they aren't going to say "4.5 games over .500" when someone is 10-1

12/1/2008 9:08:36 PM

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"games over/under 500 are how many games it would take to get to .500 9-3 is 6 games over"

I heavily disagree but fuck all that. Football

12/1/2008 9:19:04 PM

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"It's also worth pointing out that Tampa hasn't swept us in both games since 2002 "

Last season, we sat our whole team because we were already in and we lost to you guys one of the last games of the season. So Im not sure how meaningful your comment is.

Oh and I just noticed this, I had to check this twice just to make sure but since the division was created in '02 the Bucs are 2-5 against the Panthers in Tampa and they are 3-3 in Carolina. For all you mathletes out there, this means the Bucs are more successful against the Panthers IN CAROLINA. smell that??? smells like trouble for the Panthers

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 9:44 PM. Reason : a]

12/1/2008 9:32:11 PM

we didnt really try in the game @ tampa earlier this year...we pretty much gave you a win on purpose...its a fact you cant really argue

also lol at you for not knowing how "x games over .500" works...you truly are a dumbass

12/1/2008 9:33:59 PM

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"It's also worth pointing out that Tampa hasn't swept us in both games since 2002 Last season, we sat our whole team because we were already in and we lost to you guys one of the last games of the season. So Im not sure how meaningful your comment is."

Yeah because that fact has to deal with one game. God you are fucking retarded.

12/1/2008 9:35:34 PM

ONE GAME MEANS MORE THAN FIVE SEASONS OF STATS YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"this means the Bucs are more successful against the Panthers IN CAROLINA"

but they still only win half the time there, and we're 6-0 at home

that's a pattern too, fyi

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 9:47 PM. Reason : I don't know who will win, and you don't either. So shut the fuck up until next Monday.]

12/1/2008 9:44:41 PM

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"Oh and I just noticed this, I had to check this twice just to make sure but since the division was created in '02 the Bucs are 2-5 against the Panthers in Tampa and they are 3-3 in Carolina. For all you mathletes out there, this means the Bucs are more successful against the Panthers IN CAROLINA. smell that??? smells like trouble for the Panthers"

i thought you felt that homefield was the almighty decider of games...surely you don't veer from that theory as soon as this game comes up, especially when the panthers are 6-0 at home this year

12/1/2008 9:48:53 PM

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"also lol at you for not knowing how "x games over .500" works...you truly are a dumbass"

12/1/2008 9:48:58 PM

Your stat about rush defense is flawed because all those running backs with the exception of one was at home. Also DeAngelo has been running much better since the last time we played, our OLine is healthier this time around too. We run much better at home. The Home team in the division is undefeated this season and the Panthers are 6-0 at home this season.

My Stat "facts" for the game

Jeff Gaycia 190 yards passing 30 yards rushing 2 total TD's 1 Int
Jake Delhomme 195 yards passing 1 TD 2 Int (4 Int at home is wishful thinking)

DeAngelo/J-Stew 190 yards rushings 3 TD

Dunn/Broke Down Cadillac 95 yards 1 TD

Smitty 115 yards 1 TD
Bryant 85 yards 1 TD

12/1/2008 9:56:24 PM

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"Yeah because that fact has to deal with one game. God you are fucking retarded."

Well I said that because we would of swept you guys last year if we wouldnt have had the division locked up since week 14. So that would make that last statement by you invalid because we would of swept yall last year. Is this hard to understand?

12/1/2008 10:03:25 PM

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"i thought you felt that homefield was the almighty decider of games...surely you don't veer from that theory as soon as this game comes up, especially when the panthers are 6-0 at home this year "

I am a big fan of past patterns and past facts more than "just" homefield advantage. I rely on homefield advantage so much because it is a proven stat. Now even tho the Panthers are undefeated at home (which is a seasonal pattern), another proven pattern is that for some wierd reason, the Bucs do better against the Panthers in Carolina. Again yno, this stat doesnt mean Ive found the key that will unlock the future to let me see who wins this game, but it is another stat in the Bucs favor, period. Another reason for people out there to think twice about this game, because like I said at the beginning of this thread, I swear that Panthers fans are some of the dumbest and least informed fans in the world (not all), and Id like to inform them

12/1/2008 10:12:11 PM

seasonal pattern? panthers winning at home?

1995: 5-3
1996: 8-0
1997: 2-6
1998: 2-6
1999: 5-3
2000: 5-3
2001: 0-8
2002: 4-4
2003: 6-2
2004: 3-5
2005: 5-3
2006: 4-4
2007: 2-6

that's 51-53 overall at home



if you throw in this year, it puts them over the hump at 57-53, but that is hardly a home advantage over the years

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 10:23 PM. Reason : ]

12/1/2008 10:23:20 PM

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"if you throw in this year, it puts them over the hump at 57-53, but that is hardly a home advantage over the years"

Im not sure I see your point other than the Panthers have sucked over the years.

12/1/2008 10:35:40 PM

Sad to know that I have seen a lot of those losses too.

12/1/2008 10:35:48 PM

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"Now even tho the Panthers are undefeated at home (which is a seasonal pattern)"

12/1/2008 10:38:44 PM

I just realize that nobody has challenged (with stats or facts) my statement that the Bucs will beat the Panthers this coming Monday in their own house. All ive heard is their record at home. Bucs have yet to play them in Carolina so their home record means shit. I have given at least 3 solid reasons why the Panthers lose this game. Anyone care to join the conversation? Or do you guys wanna talk about a few moments Ive slipped up in the past?
This is pathetic. Panthers fans are horrible fans.

[Edited on December 1, 2008 at 10:40 PM. Reason : a]

12/1/2008 10:39:48 PM