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""You're right, it is pointless. You don't have a shred of humanity in you and think its a good idea for muslim terrorists to bash out 3 year old children's brains.""

Spin it more, Chester. Have the balls to admit your statement went too far. There was no reason to say what you said.

[Edited on June 8, 2010 at 7:49 PM. Reason : let's see that quote in the slow motion replay]

6/8/2010 7:49:08 PM

No, I stand behind it. It did not go too far at all. The reason I edited it is because I didn't want the discussion to go on that particular tangent.

Similar to how these muslim and arab radicals view any supporter of Israel to be complicit in their crimes, I consider any supporter of Hamas to be complicit in their crimes.

6/8/2010 7:55:14 PM

So you'd like to decline the the chance to retract an unnecessary personal insult to him. I'm just saying, you seem to enjoy judging others, but then you make statements like this and defeat yourself. You accuse him of lacking humanity, but you're showing very little of it yourself.

6/8/2010 7:59:45 PM

Being a friend of humanity is pretty self explanatory.

The poor treatment by Israel of Palestinians in their refugee camps and running them out of their homes is not something to support obviously and isn't a friend to humanity.

Terrorist attacks on innocent civilians on either side is also not a friend to humanity.

Obviously you only support Israel and not humanity. You'd rather Israel be allowed to do what they wish, destroy what they want, and kill whom ever gets in their way.

6/8/2010 8:00:44 PM

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"The poor treatment by Israel of Palestinians in their refugee camps and running them out of their homes is not something to support obviously and isn't a friend to humanity."

Of course, Israel blockaded Gaza for no reason whatsoever. They pretty much just like to be really mean, is that right?

6/8/2010 9:12:02 PM

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"Of course, Israel blockaded Gaza for no reason whatsoever."

No, they have a reason. It's to stop the Palestinians from building more homes, they would hate for all their hard work bulldozing and demolishing to be in vain.

6/8/2010 10:34:03 PM

lol, that would fall under just being mean to be mean

6/8/2010 11:17:13 PM

Or it could be the purpose I just said.

6/8/2010 11:48:25 PM

God damn I hate Jews

er...I mean I hate the Israeli government, I absolutely LOVE Jewish people...

In fact, I have a lot of black Jewish friends, so its all good right

I'm indeed not at all biased, and I'm completely impartial in my stances on equality

NOTE: this post is obviously in jest, and exaggerated...but its not 100% invalid either

6/8/2010 11:59:51 PM

I can't figure out if you actually think any of that or if it's just that troll juice

6/9/2010 1:59:49 AM

the last line should inform you that i don't think that, but that there also seems to be some anti-Israeli sentiment by certain posters in this thread, for example, smc

6/9/2010 2:39:32 AM

If Mexico had been launching rockets into the US every day for several years, you don't think we'd block off all port access? And board any ship that refused to pull into an American port for inspection?

6/9/2010 2:49:40 AM

Not sure you want to defend Israel by speculating about countrrfactuals involving the u.s.

6/9/2010 8:30:55 AM

Don't worry guys, McDanger has it all figured out. As soon as he's secretary of state, he'll single-handedly solve the middle east crisis.

he's just that smart

6/9/2010 8:45:06 AM

I would love to see the US and Israel before the ICJ. That would be a big step.

6/9/2010 8:51:49 AM

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"Solinari All American 15599 Posts user info edit post Don't worry guys, McDanger has it all figured out. As soon as he's secretary of state, he'll single-handedly solve the middle east crisis. he's just that smart 6/9/2010 8:45:06 AM "

ok let's start by not oppressing and disabling an entire people

6/9/2010 8:58:35 AM

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"And it also served as a nice way to remind people of the obscene violence that palestinians perpetrate upon the innocent Israeli children."

now you're just being too obvious.

shithead extremists from your land? well fuck you citizen population, you guys can just go back to the stone age.

6/9/2010 10:30:28 AM

one would think the citizen population would quit electing and supporting those extremists.

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"ok let's start by not oppressing and disabling an entire people"

I'm glad we're in agreement... Now can everyone just back the F off of Jewish people and quit oppressing them?


[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 10:36 AM. Reason : s]

6/9/2010 10:35:11 AM

lol@humans fighting over a rock.

6/9/2010 10:40:37 AM

5 billion in aid a year paid up front
exclusive access to top shelf military hardware
free and endless UN vetos regardless of how I act

help I'm being oppressed

6/9/2010 11:11:38 AM

Rain down thousands of rockets on innocent civilians
Smash out the brains of 3 year olds in front of their parents
Commit atrocity after atrocity without a peep from the world community

help I'm being oppressed

6/9/2010 11:13:17 AM

Hamas is not all Palestinians

Israel is not all Jews

6/9/2010 11:21:12 AM

I have a solution.

When Israel makes concessions to the Palestinians, the Palestinians don't respond by firing thousands of rockets at Israelis.

This is a novel concept, I admit, but may be worth investigating as a possible way to ratchet down tensions in the region.

6/9/2010 11:22:38 AM

They could also stop provoking attacks and animosity by stopping illegal land grabs and settlements

6/9/2010 11:23:51 AM

Jewish Group charters ship headed to Gaza
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3899915,00.html

6/9/2010 11:39:01 AM

^^ yea i think that pretty well describes the unilateral withdrawal of forces from the west bank and Gaza...


followed by... you guessed it, ROCKET FIRE!!!


wow, what a motivation to concede to Palestinians... Let's review our options:

1) Concessions to Palestinians: Get killed with rockets, world criticizes Israel and demands more concessions
2) Blockade Palestinians: No rocket fire, world criticizes Israel and demands more concessions

[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 11:41 AM. Reason : ]

6/9/2010 11:40:03 AM

Jewish Group charters ship headed to Gaza
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3899915,00.html

6/9/2010 11:41:21 AM

^ Woot Let's get those people help regardless of what insane bigots like Solinari think

6/9/2010 11:58:15 AM

Reuters admits to "inadvertently" cropping bloody knives out of pictures.

You know this isn't the first time Reuters has pulled this bullshit against Israel. Remember those doctored photos of Beirut a few years ago?

6/9/2010 12:00:23 PM

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"Reuters admits to "inadvertently" cropping bloody knives out of pictures. You know this isn't the first time Reuters has pulled this bullshit against Israel. Remember those doctored photos of Beirut a few years ago?"

No, I don't remember. Can I get some evidence, please?

6/9/2010 12:02:16 PM

Of course you don't fucking remember. You only notice problems with Israel

6/9/2010 12:04:28 PM

^^Posting from my phone, so i can't link.

Just Google "Reuters Beirut Photoshop". It's on Wikipedia, for chrissakes.

6/9/2010 12:13:49 PM

I'm not "calling him out", I'm actually asking for the evidence so I can weigh it and then revise my beliefs if necessary.

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"It's on Wikipedia, for chrissakes."

Ahh the hallmark of TSB. I'll check it out though, thanks.

[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 12:14 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2010 12:13:52 PM

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"On August 6, Reuters announced it would stop all cooperation with Adnan Hajj.[12] Hajj claimed he had just been trying to remove dust marks, and that he made mistakes due to the bad lighting conditions he was working under. Critics point out that this is impossible, as Hajj's doctored image added an entire plume of smoke, duplicated several buildings, and showed a repeating pattern indicating that one plume of smoke was "cloned" several times.[13] On August 7, Reuters decided to withdraw all 920 photos by Hajj from sale.[12] As of May 11, 2008, Reuters has removed all of Hajj's images from its site. On January 18, 2007 Reuters reported that an internal investigation into the Adnan Hajj photomanipulation had led to a top Reuters photo editor being fired.[14]"

Looks like Reuters acted appropriately

6/9/2010 12:16:10 PM

And yet they are still pulling this crap. Add in the Bruno Stevens photos, the Tuvia Grossman incident, constant sensationalist reporting of Israeli "massacres" such as the battle of Jenin, all that nonsense we heard about IDF using depleted uranium against Hezbollah, and you really do have the makings of a very biased media constantly trying to make Israel look bad.

6/9/2010 12:30:31 PM

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"And yet they are still pulling this crap. Add in the Bruno Stevens photos, the Tuvia Grossman incident, constant sensationalist reporting of Israeli "massacres" such as the battle of Jenin, all that nonsense we heard about IDF using depleted uranium against Hezbollah, and you really do have the makings of a very biased media constantly trying to make Israel look bad."

Again, going to have to look into this and have pretty strong evidence before I believe Reuters is systematically trying to bullshit everybody. Especially when the example of this I've seen so far resulted in the organization responding appropriately to the incident.

6/9/2010 12:41:06 PM

Well, Bruno Stevens worked for other news outlets, and it wasn't Reuters that broke most of the stories i mentioned. My point is that the "mainstream media" is very sympathetic to the plight of the Palestianians, and their reporting slants accordingly. They are particularly susceptable to reporting sensationalist and often bogus stories that make Israel look bad.

6/9/2010 12:47:49 PM

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"Well, Bruno Stevens worked for other news outlets, and it wasn't Reuters that broke most of the stories i mentioned. My point is that the "mainstream media" is very sympathetic to the plight of the Palestianians, and their reporting slants accordingly. They are particularly susceptable to reporting sensationalist and often bogus stories that make Israel look bad."

Really? Last time I checked the majority of (US) news coverage feeds into the US' standard "Israel is perfect" narrative.

[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 12:55 PM. Reason : .]

6/9/2010 12:54:59 PM

US media probably has a pro-Israel slant, although that has changed some in recent years. International media is decidedly anti-Israel. However, journalistic standards are thrown out the window all too often in their rush to bash the Israelis. These are not isolated incidents.

6/9/2010 1:09:54 PM

Watch this for a great example of CNN and the media getting called out for anti-Israel bias.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7N1AL0FTF4

6/9/2010 1:13:44 PM

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"US media probably has a pro-Israel slant, although that has changed some in recent years. International media is decidedly anti-Israel. However, journalistic standards are thrown out the window all too often in their rush to bash the Israelis. These are not isolated incidents."

The press usually comes into conflict with brutally oppressive regimes. People were whining about the unfair treatment of South Africa at one time, as well.

6/9/2010 1:49:01 PM

You'd think they would keep some journalistic standards intact during their hatefest, but maybe that's too much to ask.

6/9/2010 1:57:54 PM

^^ or maybe its just that liberals are so accustomed to a predefined narrative, they just rely on that rather than seriously considering the actual facts of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 2:18 PM. Reason : s]

6/9/2010 2:01:41 PM

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"You'd think they would keep some journalistic standards intact during their hatefest, but maybe that's too much to ask."

I wonder what the hatred is predicated on! Everybody must be an antisemite, including all non-Zionist and anti-Zionist jews.

6/9/2010 2:47:15 PM

check out this antisemite in action

6/9/2010 2:57:56 PM

I heard that if you're an antisemite, you can just replace "jews" with "zionists" and get a free pass.

6/9/2010 3:00:55 PM

People aren't born Zionists -- I wonder what the explanation could be! Could it be a viewpoint that somebody could adopt regardless of being Jewish or Gentile ...... could it be a viewpoint that somebody could reject regardless of being Jewish or Gentile !?!?!?

Solinari: confused by basic facts

6/9/2010 3:02:55 PM

Jewbacca says:
Where can the line between anti-semitism and criticism be drawn????????

6/9/2010 3:12:07 PM

or, could it be an easy way to hide one's antisemitism?

McDanger: obfuscating antisemitism since 2010

[Edited on June 9, 2010 at 3:41 PM. Reason : s]

6/9/2010 3:40:42 PM

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6/9/2010 6:22:20 PM