Quote :

"So I've had my 335i for a little over two years, and haven't had a single problem with it. The CPO is up in August and I'm debating if I want something else (and should prepare to sell it), or if I'm gonna roll the dice and own it out of warranty... What would you all do?"

trade it in for another CPO.

[Edited on March 6, 2013 at 1:37 PM. Reason : ]

3/6/2013 1:37:15 PM

my questions:

#1 do yall pay these cars off before the CPO is up ?
#2 what's the difference between your payments and say a lease on one?
#3 when you trade it in, how much $ do you lose?

3/6/2013 1:51:28 PM

1 - I tend to pay off cars when I sell them
2 - Never tried to lease
3 - I don't trade cars in. I sell private party.

3/6/2013 1:56:55 PM

ditto
ditto
ditto


just wondering if a lease would be better than a car you don't trust without a warranty.

3/6/2013 2:11:14 PM

^ hmmm I've never got a quote before. I can only imagine (in this case) leasing a $50k + car might be cost prohibitive.

Lease offers:
http://www.bmwusa.com/standard/content/financialservices/offers.aspx?offer=Leasing&from=/Standard/Content/FinancialServices/LeaseRD.aspx&return=/Standard/Content/FinancialServices/LeaseRD.aspx

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"$389*/month for 36 months. $1,000 Lease/APR Credit and $750 Loyalty Cash included in payment. • $389 First months payment • $3,000 Down payment • $0 Security Deposit • $725 Acquisition fee • $4,114 Cash due at signing"

$389 sounds good. $3k down does not. It appears this is for a 10k/year mile lease too. I emailed the dude I bought my car from. I imagine he'll quote something more attractive.

One of the negatives of a lease for me is you eliminate the potential to get a great deal on a car and have some cash left over when you sell it a 2-3 years later. I'd also be sketchy about not actually owning the car, limiting what I can do with it (aka can't work on it myself, modify etc), and the potential for having to pay $$$ when I return it, for damages, excessive wear and tear, over mileage etc. I would just feel locked in. Plus what if I want something else in a couple years?

3/6/2013 2:28:07 PM

got an email back:

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"If you were to lease a new 335 with options similar to the one you have now, the payment would fall somewhere in the $550-600/month range (depending on 12k or 15k miles with only about $1200 up front. The leases are very attractive at the moment, let me know what else I can do to help."

Compared with paying ~$30k for a CPO one. With 1.5% through Penfed the payments would be around $520.

3/6/2013 3:20:34 PM

My brother just put a deposit down on this 335i coupe. He's flying up from Charlotte Saturday to buy it.

2009 335i Coupe
32k miles
$29,592


http://www.bmwoffairfax.com/used/BMW/2009-BMW-335-fairfax-caed67e10a0a0064014435e5c288aa11.htm

3/7/2013 1:42:14 PM

Very nice. I have the same options on mine, minus the nav. It's certified right?

3/7/2013 1:55:29 PM

It's actually NOT CPO. And the factory warranty expires 7/13.

3/7/2013 1:57:48 PM

Was a warranty CPO important in his search? Is he going to buy a warranty?

Also I wonder why they didn't CPO that car...

3/7/2013 2:52:04 PM

I'm not sure, but the dealership said they didn't feel like paying the cost to CPO it.

3/7/2013 3:04:44 PM

Flogged the shit out of my 335 today. I am ready to find e85 here. I am only 417rwhp. It is new turbos time or e85 time. Anything thinking about a 335 do it. I look forward to my commute now.

3/7/2013 7:28:29 PM

I rarely hammer the throttle in mine (like to get on it smooth), but today i hammered it on an onramp and remembered why i bought the car



nothing like that godzilla sound

3/7/2013 10:29:25 PM

I'm running 50/50 93/e85. Car feels so slow on straight 93 now. I max 13psi on 93, 17psi on the mix.
I used to baby my car, it was in the shop every other month, now I drive it hard and it has not missed a beat in 2 years (other than the faults MOSFET in the DME, $.75 fix).

I'm out of warranty now and I don't worry at all about it. Anything that breaks is not a big deal to fix, I'm hoping my turbos fail soon so I can have an excuse to replace them with Vargas Stage 3 for the wife.

[Edited on March 8, 2013 at 11:45 PM. Reason : ]

3/8/2013 11:39:34 PM

I never realized how enormous the brakes are on a 135

3/9/2013 7:32:27 AM

i believe they're the first non-monoblock multi-pistons bmw has ever produced

3/9/2013 2:20:30 PM

^you are correct.

3/11/2013 12:42:36 PM

you guys (esp Mr. 417whp up there) need to take them to a drag strip and report back

3/11/2013 4:19:04 PM

Or come to an HPDE and find out if the engine will stay out of limp home mode

3/11/2013 4:47:47 PM

or that

i'm just sayin'... you don't make 420whp and not drag race it

3/11/2013 4:56:49 PM

Well they don't have limited slip differentials, shit could get ugly.


synapse, does the 335i have an E-diff of sorts?

3/12/2013 8:59:17 AM

So I have 61,xxx miles now, and the CPO is up in a couple weeks. I'm scheduled to take it in Thursday for a battery cable recall. Is there anything should have them check? I assume saying "can you see if anything covered by the CPO is broke" won't get me far.

Also is there any maintenance I should do at this point? Outside of oil changes, brakes, air and cabin filters I don't think I've done anything else since I got it at 34k. Plugs? Brake fluid? Coolant? This thing recommmends all sorts of shit: http://tinyurl.com/knukxud

[Edited on August 13, 2013 at 11:55 AM. Reason : 36k!]

8/13/2013 11:54:32 AM

you should sell that shit

8/13/2013 3:47:05 PM

Can't bring myself to do it. It's been rock solid and I can't think of anything I'd like to buy instead. Pretty damn happy with the car. Never thought I'd be closing in on 3 years of ownership without wanting for something else.

[Edited on August 13, 2013 at 4:52 PM. Reason : ^ and buy what?]

8/13/2013 4:51:03 PM

^not to be negative, but i bought mine with exactly 60k on the clock and a month later started having every known 335 problem under the sun, just short of blown turbos. mine was 07.

my buddy has 08 and it has been reliable. id say keep, but more because there is nothing good to replace it with. at the price point it is currently it's a good value.

im at 156k on M5. just put new tires. runs like a bat outta hell. never looked back, but that's not for everyone.

8/13/2013 5:32:06 PM

^^ something other than a bmw turbo implementation
honestly, there are very few fun sedans out there and that's why it took me so long to find a car. the issues i've seen out of the n54 and the fact that it's very susceptible to heat soak (stock) make me want to steer clear.

8/14/2013 10:11:22 AM

^ I'm open to suggestions

Does anyone have any advice on the CPO thing? Taking it in tomorrow.

8/14/2013 5:24:40 PM

m3, evo X if available at a reasonable price, s60r, 2014 wrx, 2014 vette, cayman S, and 911 were the cars I considered. the first 4 are available as sedans

8/14/2013 6:49:08 PM

mine has been in the shop for 2 weeks waiting on a DME. It's gone as soon as it's repaired. 11/06 build date. I was considering an e90 m3 but the rod bearing issue scared me off.


[Edited on August 14, 2013 at 11:38 PM. Reason : ]

8/14/2013 11:36:43 PM

I have not heard of any rod bearing issue...at least on non FI cars.

8/15/2013 12:26:37 PM

^seems that there are more failures on '08. nothing conclusive yet, but it is too early to say as the cars are not yet in high mileage. BMW changed part number on main crankshaft bearing on '09 and up M3s.

8/15/2013 4:50:35 PM

I've got like 63k miles now...is there any maintenance I should do at this point? Outside of oil changes, brakes, air and cabin filters I don't think I've done anything else since I got it at 34k. Plugs? Brake fluid? Coolant?

This thing recommmends all sorts of shit: http://tinyurl.com/knukxud

12/9/2013 11:44:00 AM

You should do plugs. They are "rated" to 90k from factory, but they get fouled up much earlier.
FWIW, my water pump went out at 87k leaving me stranded. It was under CPO so $1000 repair bill was covered.

12/9/2013 12:52:03 PM

anyone ever done intake/exhaust/chip? I'm considering it, but it's my daily driver and I've read mixed things about the chips. the car is a 2007 with about 60k and paid off fwiw.

12/15/2013 12:21:46 AM

I had COBB for 20K miles. Generally software is fine to run. It makes considerably more power and especially torque than stock. You will not blow out your turbos unless you start running 18psi, add downpipes, chargepipe...etc... at which point it will just blow hot air anyway.

Page stone

12/16/2013 7:12:58 AM

So no fluids at this point?

I'm going to replace my air filter...hilariously AutoZone wants $45 for the ATP one, a Mann is $25 on Amazon, and a K&N is $50 on Amazon. Any advantage to the K&N, other than never having to buy a new one?

1/13/2014 11:53:08 PM

Washing/oiling a K&N can be a pain in the ass. I'm assuming it's a drop-in rather than a cone? Probably easier in that case.

When I had one opinions seemed to be divided, to say the least.

1/14/2014 12:36:48 AM

Drop-in...I just ordered the Mann

1/14/2014 6:48:40 PM

Does anyone have a spark plug recommendation? In general should I stick to copper or get one of the newer types?

3/3/2014 5:20:00 PM

why not just buy whatever's OEM? i mean they're sparkplugs

3/3/2014 5:38:42 PM

I didn't buy OEM brake pads, and I'm happier for it.

As far as plugs go, the copper ones don't last as long as the newer ones.

3/3/2014 8:20:06 PM

Sold mine last month. I put 60k miles with serious flogging daily on every mile. Most fun in a sedan I have had to date. So cheap to make fast. I will start looking for another when PTF and Shiv make singles that are realistic in price. 10k to go to a single is still too much money. In the mean time my local Chevy dealer got fucked.

3/11/2014 9:31:47 PM

^whatcha ya getting mister?

3/14/2014 12:10:09 AM

Anyone have replacement headlight recommendations?

6/27/2014 3:07:14 PM

Quote :

"why not just buy whatever's OEM? i mean they're sparkplugs headlights"

6/27/2014 3:19:42 PM

Quote :

"I didn't buy OEM brake pads, and I'm happier for it."

[Edited on June 27, 2014 at 4:13 PM. Reason : also OEMs are $texas...seeing if there are any viable alternatives ]

6/27/2014 4:04:51 PM

there's a couple of aftermarket manufacturers out there, but all the options are fucking terrible

6/28/2014 9:33:21 PM

I can only imagine that's the case, when the aftermarkets are like $30-$40/pair and the OEMs are $150+/pair...but I ordered one of the former. They're 5000k so they should be remotely close to the OEM as far as the color goes. We'll see...

6/28/2014 10:44:24 PM

oh, you're just talking about the light itself? I thought you were talking about the entire headlight assembly.

god forbid you need one of those - OEM is ~$1000, Hellas are ~$800

[Edited on June 28, 2014 at 10:51 PM. Reason : each.]

6/28/2014 10:51:33 PM

^ inorite? *Hopefully* it's just the (high/low beam) bulb...I've read a shitload of horror stories about the drivers side high/low bulb going out and it's not the bulb, but the ballast (whatever the fuck that is), so I'm hoping that's not it.

6/28/2014 10:57:16 PM