Quote :

"For those keeping track, I'd say this is about as bad as our wisconsin loss last year. "

Not even close

There are mass genocides that aren't on the same level as the Wisconsin game

1/11/2012 11:10:19 PM

Glen Rice walked like a mofo. Refs aren't even caring to call the game anymore

1/11/2012 11:11:30 PM

what happened to Wood shooting ~50% from 3? dude has been raunchy the past few games.

1/11/2012 11:12:58 PM

pretty sure this will be the best game GT plays all year.

1/11/2012 11:13:34 PM

the "talent" thing with gott is so oversold

we brought back 4 potentially good but flawed players. cj williams became good and painter became below average and I would say both wouldnt have reached that level without Gott's coaching. then we got a transfer from a low major. and that's our entire roster

miami has at least two 5*s and reggie johnson. maryland has the leading scorer in the acc. dont give me the talent crap

1/11/2012 11:13:41 PM

SEASON OVER. NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS

[Edited on January 11, 2012 at 11:15 PM. Reason : ^^ haha urite]

1/11/2012 11:14:02 PM

                             Sup, guys?
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1/11/2012 11:15:10 PM

yeah, we'd be undefeated with harrow. like wilson in football.

1/11/2012 11:15:45 PM

Quote :

"There are mass genocides that aren't on the same level as the Wisconsin game"

LOL, Ernie subscribing to the Roy Williams school of metaphors?

1/11/2012 11:15:49 PM

i interpreted that as plain truth.

1/11/2012 11:16:54 PM

Quote :

"yeah, we'd be undefeated with harrow. like wilson in football."

I'm thinking more like how Harrow doesn't have to deal with NC State shit anymore

1/11/2012 11:17:12 PM

probably is worse than riding the pine for a year.

1/11/2012 11:17:51 PM

All Wake need to do is practise their 3 pt shooting.

1/11/2012 11:19:21 PM

Quote :

"I'm thinking more like how Harrow doesn't have to deal with NC State shit anymore"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPSpUow5CfM

1/11/2012 11:20:05 PM

There's a fat baby on FSN

1/11/2012 11:20:16 PM

Quote :

"All Wake need to do is practise their 3 pt shooting."

1/11/2012 11:24:15 PM

harrow sucked royally in ACC play.

I seriously doubt he'll magically become a shooter/scorer under Calipari although he could put up a ton of assists because he's a great passer and if he's surrounded by 5* in the shitty SEC he could look good.

1/11/2012 11:24:51 PM

Definitely took a step back tonight, though it's hard to point the finger at Gottfried. The players weren't executing and GT was getting every bounce. Just too much shit to pull it out.

-Wood going 2-9 from deep and missing some wide open looks. Same goes with Johnson and CJW

-Howell playing like a retard on offense the first half

-Leslie handcuffed with fouls (some of which were complete shit)

-Brown being aloof on offense and careless on defense

-Again, just way too much shit going GT's way -- banked threes, phantom fouls, shooting insanely well from the FT line. Because of this, we had virtually no transition baskets.


Man, that game sucked.

1/11/2012 11:32:03 PM

JUST GOT BACK FROM THE FRIDGE


Man that was a really bad showing. Very unimpressed with Gottfried tonight.

-He still doesn't have us guarding the perimeter.

-He took a terrible technical foul when the game was in jeopardy

-He allowed GT to go on a huge first half run by benching CJL and not calling a timeout to organize

-Our team completely lost composure in the 2nd half

-We made one run the entire game and completely folded the second GT punched us back



That needs to be the worst game we play all season. Our back was already against the wall after the meltdown against Stanford and the pathetic end game scenarios vs. Indiana and Vanderbilt.


I keep hoping our program has turned the corner, but it's very obvious that we haven't yet.

1/11/2012 11:38:42 PM

The Technical was a killer, but you can't really fault him for taking Leslie out. He picked up his 2nd foul halfway through the 1st half. Can't risk him getting a 3rd at that point

Only positive is I really don't think we can play any worse.

[Edited on January 11, 2012 at 11:44 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2012 11:43:57 PM

Most frustrating game in a loooong time. GT makes some deep 3's, and gets a few that bounce on every inch on the rim before falling in, we missed tons of FT's, the one ref went on a complete power trip after that technical, CJL was taken out of the game with weak fouls and we couldn't hit any of our jumpers. I feel like we always get at least 10-15 points a game in transition, and I don't remember us getting any tonight. Absolutely nothing went right.

^^ I don't see how you can pin a whole lot of that on Gottfried. We missed an insane amount of open looks, and even though our perimeter D isn't anywhere near good, GT hit some shots that flat out shouldn't have gone in.

[Edited on January 11, 2012 at 11:45 PM. Reason : ^]

1/11/2012 11:45:01 PM

^^ You're right. If Leslie had picked up his third foul in the first half we might have lost the game. Can't risk that.

1/11/2012 11:49:56 PM

Quote :

"i am actually excited again on gameday mornings..."

I hope you've learned your lesson

1/11/2012 11:52:00 PM

Gottfried had nothing to do with that lose. GT made crazy shots they won't make again all year with our guys in good defensive position. They threw up 3 or 4 absolute bricks and they still went in. It was just they're night. The refs didn't help much but we didn't play well enough to win.

1/11/2012 11:52:09 PM

Face, come on dude. Every coach makes that substitution in those circumstances.

1/11/2012 11:53:47 PM

Then every coach is wrong. You are begging the question

1/11/2012 11:55:06 PM

If they make a suboptimal move, I'll call them out on it.

Conventional wisdom is not an excuse for losing if it's wrong.

1/11/2012 11:55:14 PM

Gotcha.

Taking him out at that point didn't kill us. We easily got within 5 in the second half. Then Leslie picks up his 3rd foul. Then we go back to shitting ourselves.

1/11/2012 11:58:23 PM

That was unbelievably terrible but there's not much you can do with a game like that other than shake your head and move on.

1/12/2012 12:05:32 AM

There is a basic principle to basketball.

You play your best players as much as you can without them being so tired that they are actually worse players than their replacements.

We have really talented starters. CJ Leslie is one of the most (if not the most) talented player on our team.

We all agree, our bench is pretty awful therefore there is a sharp drop off between CJ Leslie and our bench.

CJ Leslie only played 24 minutes tonight. That's not good. We're not going to win many games if he plays 24 minutes.

Now in this game he fouled out, so maybe it didn't really matter. But what if he had ended the game with 24 minutes and 4 fouls? That means we left anywhere from 1 to ~12 minutes of CJL minutes on the table.

If you can't make correct logistic based decisions in a normal environment, then you definitely won't make them in a pressure situation.

You should always strive as a coach to understand basic strategy, and you should generally not waver from that because people tend to pysche themselves out in pressure environments.

Look at Les Miles in the championship game. The guy melted down so hard under the pressure of a championship game that he started a QB who had no chance of getting a first down. He was under so much duress that he forgot to substitute in the better QB in the 2nd half. Pressure has the ability to make someone with 30 years experience look like an amateur sometimes.

1/12/2012 12:06:14 AM

I've seen otherwise brilliant minds go to the chalkboard and make a mistake on a simple math problem in high school.


Some people don't perform well under pressure. That's why basic strategy is SO important.

It's no different than benching Larry Fitzgerald for Harry Douglas because he has a "good matchup" in your fantasy football league championship game.

When you're too close to the chalkboard you make mistakes. Subscribe to basic strategy, and adjust when you're 100% positive. Don't try to outsmart yourself your brain can't be trusted in pressure situations.

There is a reason financial advisors have other financial advisors and basketball players have coaches.

Maybe coaches need coaches too.

1/12/2012 12:10:17 AM

rice skyrocketing up the "most annoying player to watch" boards

1/12/2012 12:19:41 AM

JUST GOT BACK FROM THE "GAME"
1. Dozen Krispy Kreme donuts, assorted
2. Six pack of Yuengling
3. Life goes on

1/12/2012 12:28:22 AM

I disagreed with a few calls tonight

1/12/2012 12:28:26 AM

^^^ this.

first horrible game of the Gott era. Now let see how this team bounces back.

my prayer tonight "God please find away for the Pack's D to improve. i really don't want to see UNC drop a 120 point on us at the Nose Dome"

[Edited on January 12, 2012 at 12:31 AM. Reason : btw i don't even think God could help this Defense ]

1/12/2012 12:30:34 AM

Quote :

"Look at Les Miles in the championship game. The guy melted down so hard under the pressure of a championship game that he started a QB who had no chance of getting a first down. He was under so much duress that he forgot to substitute in the better QB in the 2nd half. Pressure has the ability to make someone with 30 years experience look like an amateur sometimes."

you realize this contradicts the point you were trying to make?

1/12/2012 12:32:13 AM

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"Joe Ovies @joeovies 1h Joking aside, tonight was one of those "everything that can go wrong did" nights. It happens to unproven teams. Move on."

QFT

1/12/2012 12:33:09 AM

Making a giant head poster for the student section for the BC game. I'll take suggestions.







But I already know who it's gonna be.

1/12/2012 12:47:48 AM

doug flutie

1/12/2012 12:48:14 AM

^^^ Translation: We expected NCSU to be shitty, and they were. Move on.

We need better expectations than Joe Ovies'

1/12/2012 1:01:21 AM

substitute "everything goes wrong"

with

"a team who hasn't played well all season"


and we're getting pretty close.

Even though they should be, this team still isn't any good unfortunately.

They don't play any defense, they turn the ball over, and they cant shoot 3-pointers.

This is one of those teams you watch play basketball. It's not one of the teams you like watching play basketball.

Very unfortunate. Much work to do Gottfried.

1/12/2012 1:10:42 AM

Quote :

"you realize this contradicts the point you were trying to make?"

If contradicts means "enhances" then yes it contradicts it.

Don't be a hornrimmed glasses motherfucker. If you want to call me out be a man and say why I am wrong.

You smug MSNBC, skinny jeaned, pseudo wannabe intellects annoy the fuck out of me.

[Edited on January 12, 2012 at 1:24 AM. Reason : a]

1/12/2012 1:23:41 AM

What a miserable cunt you must be in real life

1/12/2012 1:33:46 AM

I want to be Peter Pan too.

But intellectually we all just need to grow up sometimes.

Especially some of you.

1/12/2012 1:48:11 AM

me and a friend made this for the game as a play on the one from football season. howell thought it was funny and showed DP.

didn't really help, though

1/12/2012 2:07:30 AM

Quote :

"There is a basic principle to basketball. You play your best players as much as you can without them being so tired that they are actually worse players than their replacements. We have really talented starters. CJ Leslie is one of the most (if not the most) talented player on our team. We all agree, our bench is pretty awful therefore there is a sharp drop off between CJ Leslie and our bench. CJ Leslie only played 24 minutes tonight. That's not good. We're not going to win many games if he plays 24 minutes. Now in this game he fouled out, so maybe it didn't really matter. But what if he had ended the game with 24 minutes and 4 fouls? That means we left anywhere from 1 to ~12 minutes of CJL minutes on the table. If you can't make correct logistic based decisions in a normal environment, then you definitely won't make them in a pressure situation. "

This is again one of the most idiotic rants I have ever seen. What if you continued playing CJL in the first half and he picked up another 1-2 fouls. You can easily see where in a close END GAME SITUATION having your best players IS MUCH MORE IMPORTANT than having them at other points in the game (for reference see the cramping issues with CJL). If CJL had been allowed to stay in and foul out with 4 minutes left in a close game how would you feel about that? Again Mouth Breathing Rabble Rousing ITT
Ohh and btw isn't Roger Ayers the same ref that called the intentional on Wood and some other BS on us in another game?

[Edited on January 12, 2012 at 7:50 AM. Reason : asdfad]

1/12/2012 7:49:25 AM

will everybody still be complaining about this if we win the next 3 games and are 4-1 going into unc? It's 1 game.

1/12/2012 8:33:57 AM

face is the reason I avoid game threads like the plague

1/12/2012 8:42:30 AM

^Agreed. "Expert" on everything. Probably hasn't played an organized game of basketball in his life.

1/12/2012 8:49:16 AM

Coaching State basketball = coaching BCS championship game = fantasy football = high school math

face for NC State Athletics Coaching Overlord!

Calvin has to learn that you're not going to get calls by complaining about not getting calls. Refs don't tend to be like "you know, this whiny douche is right. I should make more calls his way."

1/12/2012 9:12:18 AM