sag1804 All American 914 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, is TWW full of atheist's or something?!
Glad people can hate on religion, but then find it offensive when someone is outward emotional about their religious beliefs. Sad people.
[Edited on January 21, 2015 at 6:15 AM. Reason : Praying for the posters.] 1/21/2015 6:14:48 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
atheist's what?
It's not about hating on religion at all. Even as a religious person, the notion of attributing success in an athletic competition to God is ridiculous.
It's as if God is some kid playing a game with action figures and arbitrarily deciding which side he wants to win. If one believes in God, I'd wager one does not imagine him in that way.
Or maybe God determines the victor by.. who prays the hardest? If that's the case then we should be able to data mine sports victories by the religious makeup of the teams. We shouldn't see any instances where a team with more christians than the other lost, right? No atheist tennis player should be able to defeat a christian tennis player right? If God decides the victor, surely he isn't going to grant victory to the guy who doesn't even believe in him, right?
Christians have a lot of explanations for why God allows bad things to happen to good people. So, it seems a bit contradictory for God to help a football player score a touchdown while allowing ISIS to behead christians in the middle east.
If God is out there determining victories, then that also speaks to the lack of agency that the players themselves have in the outcome of the game. Why bother practicing free throws when praying a little harder seems like the more rational action--assuming that currying favor with God is the path to victory. And if we have no agency in a baseball game, what agency do we have in life? If we have no free will, then fuck it-- why bother doing anything at all?
Or perhaps, the all powerful, omniscient, creator of all that exists doesn't actually give a flying shit about the petty games humans play, and teams win for all of the reasons that teams win. They executed better. the other team made too many errors. a key player had an injury. The tarheels cheated, etc.
While some players in some sports do fall into the category of truly believing that God intervened on their behalf-- which is, by the way, another way of saying one believes that God favors him above others, I suspect the vast majority of players do it as a misguided attempt to appear publicly humble.
At the end of the day, most of the attributions and quotables from players thanking God for their performance or victory are one of the silly logical fallacies that humans are susceptible to and are no different than other non-religious superstitions that athletes have-- mostly harmless. Where it crosses the line from harmless bullshit to pissing people off is when players go from thanking God to segueing into a political podium.
That's why Tim Tebow got so much shit-- not because he was christian, but because he had an agenda. Philip Rivers is a counterpoint-- another super religious guy who tends to not use his celebrity status as a forum for evanglism or political activism. He has historically not gotten any significant flak as a devout Christian although his devotion is no secret. 1/21/2015 4:05:26 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4368 Posts user info edit post |
well said BobbyDigital, assuming that wasn't copy pasta.
[Edited on January 21, 2015 at 4:37 PM. Reason : fuck] 1/21/2015 4:36:47 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It's as if God is some kid playing a game with action figures and arbitrarily deciding which side he wants to win. If one believes in God, I'd wager one does not imagine him in that way." |
LOL Said the book of Job never. wagering with the devil on a man's life
God actually does take sides. asked the religious on how God works things out for their benefit. So who am I to say on what God does or doesn't do. Especially on a God that seems to morph at the attitude of the believing people. God had to be on Russell's side with that miracle he pulled out after that crappy game he had. The kicker had more points than he did before overtime. God smiled on him greatly. If you keep the faith then God comes thru. Amirite?
I bet if Russell was Islamic and quoted a passive verse in the Qur'an then EVERYONE would be flipping their lid.
[Edited on January 21, 2015 at 4:59 PM. Reason : ee]1/21/2015 4:49:35 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4368 Posts user info edit post |
spoiler alert:
God doesn't exist 1/21/2015 5:01:06 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.nfl.com/videos/inside-the-nfl/0ap3000000461870/Inside-the-NFL-Packers-vs-Seahawks-highlights 1/22/2015 3:51:45 AM |
fas4x Veteran 137 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU alum living in Seattle Made this progression of Russell
1/25/2015 2:32:01 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
seahawks photo should have the gerry curl 1/25/2015 5:38:49 AM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.russellwilson3.com/russell-wilson/
Quote : | " WISCONSIN On June 27, 2011, Wisconsin head coach Bret Bielema announced that Wilson had committed to Wisconsin for the 2011 season. In the season opener against UNLV, Wilson passed for 255 yards and 2 touchdowns in a 51–17 victory. He also rushed for 62 yards, including a 46-yard touchdown run. At the end of the regular season, Wilson was named first team All-Big Ten by both the coaches and media. Wilson also won the Griese-Brees Big Ten Quarterback of the Year award. In December 2011, Wilson was named a third team All-American by Yahoo Sports, and he finished ninth in the voting for the Heisman Trophy with 52 points." |
Quote : | "NC STATE Wilson led the 2010 Wolfpack to a 9–4 season that included a 23–7 win over West Virginia in the 2010 Champs Sports Bowl. He led the ACC in passing yards per game (274.1) and total offensive yards per game (307.5). Wilson graduated from NC State in three years in May 2010 with a BA in communication, and took graduate-level business courses in the fall semester during the 2010 football season." |
1/27/2015 10:08:26 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
1/31/2015 9:20:09 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
cable guide description
Quote : | "New. "New England Patriots vs. Seattle Seahawks" The defending Super Bowl champion Seattle Seahawks, led by Marshawn Lynch, take on the New England Patriots and Tom Brady, who is making his sixth appearance in the big game." |
1/31/2015 4:10:24 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Apparenty he is banging katy perry 1/31/2015 8:13:38 PM |
Jrb599 All American 8846 Posts user info edit post |
Anyone have the gif of wilson holding the football and lighting up? 2/1/2015 5:16:09 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
This one?
[Edited on February 1, 2015 at 5:27 PM. Reason : kfdhf] 2/1/2015 5:27:01 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson > Vick 2/1/2015 6:40:31 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
Russell has got to start making passes. I doubt we can squeak out another Packers type win. 2/1/2015 7:23:41 PM |
Fry The Stubby 7784 Posts user info edit post |
nobody to throw to 2/1/2015 7:25:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
on every single passing play? 2/1/2015 7:27:47 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
BOOOO YAHHHH 2/1/2015 7:31:04 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
If the Seahawks do win, does that make Russell a "Platinum God"?
*Knock on Wood* 2/1/2015 8:36:52 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
MVP 2/1/2015 8:53:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
MVP LOL
2/1/2015 9:59:48 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Wisconsin shit 2/1/2015 10:06:22 PM |
Nighthawk All American 19623 Posts user info edit post |
Russell Brady is a golden God? 2/1/2015 10:06:29 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27825 Posts user info edit post |
That ball should have never had the option of being thrown. Fire Pete Carroll. 2/1/2015 10:06:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
2/1/2015 10:06:44 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
So. Turns out he's not the G.O.A.T , just a goat. 2/1/2015 10:09:43 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
Proof that he's from NC State. 2/1/2015 10:11:19 PM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
NC State shit is a stank that just don't wash off 2/1/2015 10:12:12 PM |
alfredough All American 1121 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say that's NC State shit, just a stupid play call 2/1/2015 10:21:09 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
by former NC State defensive coordinator Pete Carroll
NC State Shit, inarguably 2/1/2015 10:22:47 PM |
Kickstand All American 11592 Posts user info edit post |
A Golden God would have audibled to a run play. 2/1/2015 10:24:37 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I've been doubting Christianity a lot recently. I want to thank RW for leading me to atheism tonight. 2/1/2015 10:28:28 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
I was ready to convert with that miracle catch, but not after that play call. 2/1/2015 10:29:34 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
is Brady a wiccan or pagan or something?
either way, Michigan > Wisconsin
[Edited on February 1, 2015 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .] 2/1/2015 10:33:09 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Stupid russ, stupid
[Edited on February 1, 2015 at 10:36 PM. Reason : ] 2/1/2015 10:36:01 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
God wanted Brady to win. 2/1/2015 10:36:07 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
run as far away as you want you can never escape nc state shit 2/1/2015 10:36:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Ya can't win back to back Super Bowls, you can only win 1 Super Bowl, #NCSTATESHIT
[Edited on February 1, 2015 at 10:37 PM. Reason : #UNCWOULDWIN2] 2/1/2015 10:37:09 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/24957462/seahawks-favored-to-win-2016-super-bowl-too 2/1/2015 10:37:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
Bears 50-1? More like 45-1. 2/1/2015 10:39:11 PM |
ViolentMAW All American 4127 Posts user info edit post |
Pete Carroll kind of looks like Richard Gere who is Buddhist. 2/1/2015 10:51:44 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory.
Payback for the packers -> payback for the cowboys -> payback for detroit 2/1/2015 10:54:28 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
He is not black enough
[Edited on February 1, 2015 at 11:05 PM. Reason : ] 2/1/2015 11:04:53 PM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
Eli > Russell
if Eli was out there he would never let this happen. Losing to the Patriots? Inconceivable! 2/1/2015 11:22:40 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Not his fault, worst play call ever! 2/1/2015 11:23:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148436 Posts user info edit post |
^^Hard to argue
^should've audibled 2/1/2015 11:23:42 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
^Why would he have audibled if the call was to take advantage of the defense? It's not like the defense did anything pre-snap that would have made that play less desirable than it already was. He could have called a timeout to tell Pete that he's a fucking moron and that it's a horrible play call, but then he would have wasted the last timeout.
Probably could have not made the pass, but it wasn't a horrible pass...dude just made a big time play. WR could have at least gotten a hand on the ball. 2/2/2015 6:14:37 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
"That's God setting it up, to make it so anticlimactic, so soul crushing, so NC State/Wisconsin shit"
-Wilson blaming God for this loss. 2/2/2015 8:10:24 AM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
That wasn't NC State Shit.
NC State Shit would have been that same ending, but in the wild card round. 2/2/2015 8:42:17 AM |