V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "before Purvis got here, he said he wanted to play point guard and wanted to be one-and-done" |
actually, he didnt
[Edited on April 1, 2013 at 5:22 PM. Reason : .]4/1/2013 5:22:04 PM |
WAR Veteran 368 Posts user info edit post |
Thank you for leaving Evtimov off that list. I got frustrated with him more than Vandy #Fact 4/1/2013 5:22:25 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Purvis fancied himself as a player like Marcus Smart, a great athlete and leader who makes things happen with the ball in his hands. That's the kind of player he was in high school, and I'm sure everyone in his circle was telling him that would be his role at State.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have the ball skills, clutch play or natural leadership ability of Smart. He doesn't finish as well around the basket. He's a good athlete, but not as good as Smart. The only thing they share is the inability to shoot from outside. 4/1/2013 5:22:49 PM |
OopsPowSrprs All American 8383 Posts user info edit post |
Hitting a FT once in a while would have been out of his comfort zone also 4/1/2013 5:23:31 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
making a wide open layup once in a while would've been outside his comfort zone 4/1/2013 5:24:13 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^
Quote : | "I want to play the point" |
Quote : | "I'm working really hard so I can be one and done" |
he must have been lying
]4/1/2013 5:24:31 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
there's also another video of him saying he wanted to play 4 years and graduate from college 4/1/2013 5:25:18 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
A lot of recruiting services said Purvis could be a PG in college. Probably got his head all big. Truth is, he wasn't a PG. Just a strong, athletic guy whose skills were still pretty raw. Here's his Scout write up
Quote : | "Purvis is a guy that can play both lead guard and scoring guard. Currently classified as a point guard, Purvis has terrific vision and is a talented passer. With that said, he's a high-level scorer as well, that can put the ball in the basket in a variety of ways. His end-to-end speed and athleticism is what stands out the most and he's a terrific finisher once near the rim. " |
4/1/2013 5:26:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
^^yeah i posted that video as well, which is why i remember what he said
its all a high school kid saying stuff, but i trust a one-on-one interview to show what his actual thoughts more than clowning around with lewis, warren, suilamon and paige
[Edited on April 1, 2013 at 5:28 PM. Reason : but whatever, he gone] 4/1/2013 5:27:37 PM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
I never saw the video of him saying he would be a one and done but I did see the video of him saying he wanted to play 4 years and graduate so I stand corrected. 4/1/2013 5:28:39 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
yeah his confidence is what needed the most work
not his shooting, ball handling, or defense
4/1/2013 5:28:46 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Purvis fancied himself as a player like Marcus Smart, a great athlete and leader who makes things happen with the ball in his hands. That's the kind of player he was in high school, and I'm sure everyone in his circle was telling him that would be his role at State.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have the ball skills, clutch play or natural leadership ability of Smart. He doesn't finish as well around the basket. He's a good athlete, but not as good as Smart. The only thing they share is the inability to shoot from outside." |
Marcus Smart is about as gifted offensively as Purvis. Though he at least has some PG skills where as Purvis has none. The reason Smart is a 1 and done top 5 draft pick is because he plays great defense and is a winner. Rodney didnt put in the work to be that. That's the role Gott wanted him to play this season but it didnt work out.4/1/2013 5:29:38 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
It may make sense for Purvis to try and mold himself as a point, I just don't see the current player he is being suited for it. 4/1/2013 5:31:43 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Zo averaged 3.7apg playing 2 guard for Sidney Lowe. If Purvis had any ability at all to play the point we wouldve seen it this year 4/1/2013 5:34:23 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
From a depth standpoint this is pretty rough.
From a program in the long run standpoint... Need guys that want to be here and if you don't no ill will but cya. Can't beg/promise players playing time. Earn it. 4/1/2013 5:43:00 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^
Well, we shouldn't offer such players then. 4/1/2013 5:54:31 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know who Purvis thought he was, or what people around him said to over-inflate his ego, but I saw Purvis play 15 games this year from the front of the student section and at the dean dome and colisuem, and for the entire year he played like a freshman. He was usually a little too out of control, taking the wrong shots at the wrong time, and not finishing consistently enough at the rim. His enthusiasm was there at times and (much like Leslie) his tempo and mood would wax and wane. He just didn't have the talent of a one-and-done. He was usually one of the first on-court warming up two hours before the game, and he sure as shit tried, so I don't think work ethic was a problem. I met him once on campus during the season and he was respectful to me when I told him good game. I listened to his interview with Tony and Gary after he dropped 21 on BC at home and heard him talk about how things that happened this season were very humbling for him, and that he felt he was more mature after seeing the game from the bench.
But I got no love for flaky players (or flaky people in general), and if at the end of the day he takes everything into account and turns his back on NC State, then to him I say don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. And should you ever return to the PNC arena in an opponent's jersey, I will boo you viciously.
farewell sweet prince [/rant] 4/1/2013 6:08:44 PM |
jaZon All American 27048 Posts user info edit post |
man, you guys are being some huge dickholes over a guy transfering 4/1/2013 6:12:13 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
after the way things went this past season, i'd say it's completely justified 4/1/2013 6:19:33 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Purvis was a freshman this year, and for the most part he played like a freshman. He had some highs and lows. He struggled with his jump shot, couldn't finish around the rim at times, and was pretty bad at the FT line. He's obviously a good player with tons of potential and he showed that at times this season. But he was our starting 2 guard from day 1 and basically played his way out of the starting lineup. I guess he and the staff just had different ideas of what his role on the team was. Losing 4 of our starting 5, Purvis and TJW were set to be our go to guys next year. He'd have his chance to prove himself, with a year of experience under his belt. It's not like he got recruited over or wasn't given a fair shake. He had his chances and was going to get plenty more in 13-14. It's pretty clear he just didn't want to be here anymore...I wish him well. 4/1/2013 6:30:32 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
i wish him misery and misfortune
seriously, fuck him and his entitled attitude 4/1/2013 6:32:22 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I wish him the best at wherever he ends up in 2 years.
And then again at Georgia Southern 2 years after that.
[Edited on April 1, 2013 at 6:38 PM. Reason : ] 4/1/2013 6:38:17 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
kids these days fold at the least little adversity. i blame social media and rap music.
i wish we hired a coach that would just recruit humble basketball players and build a basketball team around defense and teamwork instead of all this hoop dreams bullshit. 4/1/2013 6:50:45 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
rehire herb! 4/1/2013 7:02:24 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
Deeper down the ref conspiracy rabbithole: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/blog/eye-on-college-basketball/21989633
It even applies to former assistants! 4/1/2013 7:02:34 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
haha
our program is fucking toxic 4/1/2013 7:06:23 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
We are just like Kentucky after last season when they lost their entire starting lineup, except for the whole winning a national championship thing 4/1/2013 7:28:13 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
At least we get to be the youngest team in the nation next year and dickie v can scream YOU BETTA BEAT EM NOW BABY at all of our games. 4/1/2013 7:33:38 PM |
Deshman007 All American 3245 Posts user info edit post |
"there's always next year" too soon? 4/1/2013 7:39:54 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i miss players like Cliff, and Scooter, and Hodge, and Grundy, and Marcus, and Engin (yep!)" |
those guys all have one thing in common
4/1/2013 7:58:47 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Oh?
Yeah, well I also miss Big Rich and CJ Williams, ok 4/1/2013 8:48:06 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Right now it would probably be some rotation of this sort:
PG: Lewis 30 - Barber - 10 Wing: Lee 30 - Barber - 10 Wing: Turner 30 - Warren - 10 Post: Warren 25 - Washington - 15 Post: Anya 25 - Washington - 10 - Vandy 5
Hopefully this means we get Lee who looks good. Add Lennard Freeman or some JUCO big and we could be okay. Anya has GOT to get in better shape. Washington hopefully will be ready to play from day one. 4/1/2013 9:30:37 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
For baseball, we got a workout packet and all sorts of info over the summer. Obviously they can't make you do it. But he'll have 2-3 months of working out and running, maybe more if he chooses.. I'm sure he'll be in at least ok shape 4/1/2013 9:35:48 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Medlin is staying positive: http://www.wralsportsfan.com/nc-state-dealing-with-life-in-the-hoops-fast-lane/12292305/ 4/1/2013 9:40:24 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one, don't trust anything positive the media has to say during the off-season
That #6 pre-season ranking did us ZERO favors 4/1/2013 9:42:40 PM |
cali_j2004 All American 3724 Posts user info edit post |
Is there ANY substance to Tyler Lewis transfer rumors? That would probably send me over the edge. He's the one guy I thought we could count on to be a solid four year player. 4/1/2013 9:44:27 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
^^trust the media? it's just an opinion about the possibilities of the upcoming basketball season. 4/1/2013 9:46:47 PM |
scottncst8 All American 2318 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "UNLEASH
THE
JEVONI" |
4/1/2013 10:04:03 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Seriously? I'd be starting a fucking lawsuit to get that fine back. Fucker was targeted by the officials and then got fined for it. God damn4/1/2013 10:20:42 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "This is the standard initiation fee when you try to join college basketball’s best." |
This statement is on the same level as UNC fans claiming to be big time in college football because the NCAA was investigating them4/1/2013 10:21:19 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
Are we still in the mix for that Seton Hall transfer Aaron Cosby? He would have to sit out next year though, right? 4/1/2013 11:35:34 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "man, you guys are being some huge dickholes over a guy transfering" |
Of course they are. We aren't any different from any other program. We aren't any different than UNC fans. We aren't any different than Duke fans.
Fans throw recruits who go elsewhere under the bus ("We didn't want him anyway!" or "Player X is better anyway even though he is a fringe Top 75!") and they call transfers soft, shitty or pussy.
Never will change. Rodney doesn't sound like a bad guy, but he does sound like a guy who had no clue what his role would be in Gotts offense and should have.
[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 7:57 AM. Reason : X]4/2/2013 7:57:42 AM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
Jevoni to transfer, per Insider
[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 8:25 AM. Reason : X] 4/2/2013 8:25:16 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Really need to get some positive news after all of this. A Lee commitment would do a world of good for this program right now...and maybe some affirmations from Lewis and Warren about being commited to the team and ready for next year. 4/2/2013 8:51:56 AM |
V0LC0M All American 21263 Posts user info edit post |
Apparently Purvis was only passing 3 credit hours this semester. I think that might have more to do with this than anything. 4/2/2013 9:23:59 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
If true, are you insinuating that he was going to have to sit to get his grades up anyhow, so the "sitting one year" part of the equation was irrelevant? 4/2/2013 9:25:31 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
the 'wanting to play PG' part doesn't make sense to me.
Zo already had the position locked down coming into the season
And you came in the recruiting class with Lewis, who is a natural PG
What did you think would happen? 4/2/2013 10:09:21 AM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
He definitely has someone in his ear, telling him all the stupid things. 4/2/2013 10:10:23 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Apparently Purvis was only passing 3 credit hours this semester. I think that might have more to do with this than anything." |
So if you're a scholarship athlete that's failing out, you can just put in a transfer to another university and it doesn't matter?
Not sure how that works, but if it's true that's bullshit4/2/2013 10:29:31 AM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
you have to be in good academic standing to transfer so that can't be true.
playing PG is probably the best shot he has for going to the NBA. I don't think he has the handling/speed but maybe if he works on it? we tried him at the point a few games when Brown was out and Lewis was still getting his stride 4/2/2013 10:32:03 AM |