wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
First the fact that Moyes had no money is a ridiculous assertion. He spent 66 million on TWO players and then also spent a lot of the first summer faffing about and dithering on bids to Thiago, Herrera, and chased unrealistic prospects like Fabregas.
Secondly stats don't show this but Man United are actually playing better football under LVG than under Moyes. The team was absolutely clueless under Moyes and the performances were just as frustrating. Now at least we have some semblance of control in our matches. The organization and shape is there but the team is lacking in the final third. Its up to LVG to figure out how to fix that.
Thirdly his record against direct rivals and the top 6 last year speaks for itself. United showed up for the big matches last year and that is why we finished 4th.
Lastly the rebuilding job LVG has had to do takes money. So LVG went on a shopping spree last year, that was expected after finishing 7th the year before and needing to clear out the deadwood in our squad. Why not take a look at how much United have slashed the wage bill over this transfer window? Or the fact that our net spend has been around 40 million this transfer window?
LVG achieved his goal last year and we shall see if he achieves it this year. Moyes couldn't even achieve the minimum, shit his team was so uninspiring he wouldn't even know what to do if he had a squad worth 200 million. 9/4/2015 1:05:49 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
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wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
I am annoyed at his stubbornness though. Way too much philoshophy for my liking. I could understand that talk last year but against Swansea it was clear the philoshophy isn't working or needs to change.
I believe that LVG can keep us in the CL and satisfied with some big wins, hopefully a cup run. I also believe that we will see a much better team emerge after LVG retires because he has laid some good foundation down with some young kids (wish they were from United's academy though and not bought). 9/4/2015 2:27:50 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
David De Gea! Hahahahhahaa. Fuck off Madrid. Absolutely brilliant transfer window now, don't even care we didn't get a great CB, doesn't even matter anymore.
United wins against Madrid after this, Perez and their cunt fans can shut the fuck up and sit down or pay a record transfer fee next summer. Love it. 9/11/2015 7:55:54 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
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NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Brilliant is a massive overstatement but they did win this battle with Madrid.. 9/11/2015 11:33:44 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say our supporters have supported DDG instead of abusing/ disowning him. If he were a Liv/Ars/RM player, he would have left the club already because of all the fan hatred.
[Edited on September 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM. Reason : ] 9/11/2015 11:50:11 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
not falling for it 9/11/2015 11:54:41 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
battle? Lol. We have won the war here. Madrid isn't getting him for peanuts or for free anymore. If they pay a world record transfer fee for him I will be more than happy to let him go.
I hope DDG has seen the circus at Real Madrid and decided to stay for good but if he still ends up at Madrid it will be at a fair price. We consider Ronaldo a legend but when your heart belongs somewhere else there isn't much you can do. Its sad to see that England can't develop talent like DDG that wants to stay in England but that is the reality of football now. 9/11/2015 12:10:27 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
While he didn't get match day abuse and he wouldn't have even tomorrow if he hadn't signed this deal, he def. was not in good graces with our supporters. We are quick to forgive though and I am ecstatic he has signed a new deal. It was the right thing to do and now he can put this summer behind him and focus on doing what he does best. Our supporters love seeing a player like DDG play at Old Trafford and we will always be behind him.
Shit we forgave Rooney after his flirting with city, DDG was actually a whole deal more professional as much as I wanted to label him a cunt he did do well in handling this whole saga in not saying a word. 9/11/2015 12:13:30 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
wazza31 furious at NBC right now. Killing United for basically having Fellaini be the striker if Rooney can't go... how can they say that???? They've had a BRILLIANT window.
And save the Arsenal bashing. It doesn't mean much when I've said they needed desperately to upgrade more aside from Cech. 9/12/2015 7:11:38 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
will finally be able to play with 11 9/12/2015 7:23:12 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
I'm loving Chelsea this year
[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 8:07 AM. Reason : 2-0] 9/12/2015 8:06:36 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol Jose is going to have a mental breakdown to savor... 9/12/2015 8:07:40 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Can anyone finish. Jesus... 9/12/2015 10:09:00 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Good luck to your team aimorris. I hope they are wank today. 9/12/2015 10:27:35 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol it should be 8-0... Late equaliser coming...
[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 11:52 AM. Reason : Fuck city still at max after late late goal] 9/12/2015 11:27:29 AM |
heelfan All American 3268 Posts user info edit post |
A rookie scores the winner in the 89th minute! A type of game that future champions win. 9/12/2015 11:57:21 AM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
No hoofball from United today I'm sure 9/12/2015 11:58:16 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
What the fuck.. this game is awful. 9/12/2015 1:14:12 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
Good grief Firmino 9/12/2015 1:53:06 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Haha Firmino.. What the fuck.
Arsenal is pretty much guaranteed top four already from what I've seen this season.
[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 1:59 PM. Reason : good call. Liverpool really look dire. Hope they don't find Klopps number] 9/12/2015 1:54:25 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Fuck me here comes the hype train... Enough with the Henry shit plz... 9/12/2015 2:14:44 PM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Money well spent in my book 9/12/2015 2:17:37 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Bentekes goal was sick. Martials finish was superb but got a really lucky bounce off the defenders shin. 9/12/2015 2:19:01 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
kloppkloppkloppkloppkloppkloppkloppkloppkloppkloppklopp 9/12/2015 2:19:51 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37693 Posts user info edit post |
Pool also missing 4 starters today, but yea...
United win probably bittersweet for them since they needed the help of a cunt 9/12/2015 2:24:32 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Hahaha,afaik he's the only cunt who called him a cunt. The fans have been behind him all this while
[Edited on September 12, 2015 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ] 9/12/2015 2:27:25 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Once martial is done, he would be twice as good as Henry was yeah? 9/12/2015 2:31:57 PM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
@nym410
9/14/2015 10:18:59 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Time to resurrect the KRAP campaign Keep Rafa Rodgers at Pool 9/14/2015 10:46:19 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
any chance Martial starts this weekend? 9/15/2015 9:01:46 AM |
wazza31 All American 2433 Posts user info edit post |
Southampton away isn't an easy fixture and Rooney may be fit to start as well. If Rooney is fit I can't see Martial starting. Depends on if he plays today and how well he does I suppose though. 9/15/2015 9:39:42 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Wilshere is done. Never gonna live up to his massive ability. Shame too, he really could have been world class... 9/15/2015 2:23:29 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.sbnation.com/soccer/2015/9/15/9329811/former-teammate-says-steven-gerrard-has-never-liked-black-people 9/15/2015 11:00:22 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe that's why FSG bought them. Boston and Liverpool, what a match. 9/16/2015 8:57:58 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Shame too, he really could have been world class..." |
Can we get an agreed upon definition of what world class is? We had this same problem when wazza claimed Mata was world class...
To me this means that you're either 1st or 2nd team "World XI". If you aren't the first or second best player at your position on the planet then you aren't world class. Jack was never going to sniff those heights.
Not blatantly trying to troll, but that term gets thrown around way too much imo for players that won't even make the team of the season in their own league.
In a completely unrelated topic, I know nobody here watches Spurs, but if you get a chance keep your eyes on Alli. That kid is going to be a star in a few seasons. He's impressed big time already this year.
[Edited on September 19, 2015 at 8:11 AM. Reason : COYS]9/19/2015 8:09:58 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Cunts all over the field 9/19/2015 8:31:50 AM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
Chelsea have the most scum in the PL 9/19/2015 8:34:54 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Costa face palmed, elbowed and chested down Koscielny and apparently no one saw it? Only got yellow for Gabriel thing.
If Gabriel did kick out once Costa put his crotch on his ass while talking trash, fair red. But... Costa should absolutely be off. 9/19/2015 8:39:05 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Costa is the king of shithousery. Get this guy out of england please. He makes Suarez's antics look normal...
[Edited on September 19, 2015 at 8:44 AM. Reason : Mike Dean will be looking to even it up this first 15 though] 9/19/2015 8:41:56 AM |
BEAVERCHEESE All American 1103 Posts user info edit post |
Grown ass men tattle telling to the ref. Pathetic. 9/19/2015 8:46:59 AM |
laxman490 All American 2385 Posts user info edit post |
might as well turn it off now that its 1-0. chelsea will park the bus even with a man up. 9/19/2015 9:00:23 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
This match has been total shit 9/19/2015 9:26:14 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Chelsea effect 9/19/2015 9:28:32 AM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
Chelsea's a disgrace to the game. Week in and week out they're involved in something that tarnishes the idea of the beautiful game. 9/19/2015 9:32:23 AM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
lol, as I was watching this, I was like "I bet TWW is pissed right now"
Much needed win but I don't care for the antics either. 9/19/2015 11:30:14 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Chelsea are a world class disgrace cheating scum 9/19/2015 1:00:50 PM |
Ribs All American 10713 Posts user info edit post |
note the correct example of using world class there 9/19/2015 1:02:50 PM |
FriendlyFire . 3753 Posts user info edit post |
They'd all make the 1st and 2nd XI for cheating disgraceful scum though 9/19/2015 1:42:19 PM |