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"Considering it was four vaccinated players testing positive that ultimately did us in, I'm not sure how much blame can really be put on the team."

Half the team didn't get vaxxed right?

Quote :

"I read, the ones who weren't were simply waiting until the season was over to get their vaccine for fear of it affecting their performance"

Quote :

"Can't imagine trying to play d1 baseball."

But do you actually believe that?

Also there were gaps aplenty in that schedule where they could get vaxxed without affecting their on the field performance.

6/28/2021 1:48:16 PM

Get the shot on Monday. Miss the midweek game if needed. And have plenty of time to be good to go for the weekend series. There was also weeks in the season with no midweek game

Also, sounds like they were trying to get the J&J shot and then it was shelved. But it’s pretty easy to get the moderna or Pfizer too. It’s not like J&J was the only option.

6/28/2021 1:55:31 PM

^True, but these kids are also positioning themselves for the MLB Draft. There has to be a part of them worried that the vaccine might affect their performance, timing, strength, etc -- even if it's just temporary.

Plus, baseball players are unreasonably superstitious. IIRC, the players weren't eligible to get vaccinated until early April (Group 4-5). And that's right around the time our season turned around.

Yeah it's a stretch, but who knows. Prob just kids assuming they can't get sick and don't need the vax. But superstition is real. There was a guy on the Indians who used to pray to a voodoo god Jobu to help him hit curveballs. True story



[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

6/28/2021 1:55:50 PM

dp

[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

6/28/2021 2:01:48 PM

Quote :

"Yeah it's a stretch, but who knows. Prob just kids assuming they can't get sick and don't need the vax. But superstition is real. There was a guy on the Indians who used to pray to a voodoo god Jobu to help him hit curveballs. True story"

The players have no reason to be afraid of the virus or to need the vaccination, apart from the social good deed of increasing vaccination rates and slowing social spread.

But for them personally, there is nothing to be gained from it.

College people don't tend to be highly motivated by public good will.

6/28/2021 2:06:43 PM

why are people still comparing fans in the stands who paid money for tickets to unpaid labor who are under the purview of the NCAA?

6/28/2021 2:23:38 PM

Because the NCAA can control the policies about the fans in the stands any time that it wants.

6/28/2021 2:24:41 PM

Quote :

"Yeah it's a stretch, but who knows. Prob just kids assuming they can't get sick and don't need the vax. But superstition is real. There was a guy on the Indians who used to pray to a voodoo god Jobu to help him hit curveballs. True story"

He later became a devout Buddhist and then US President. And now he sells car insurance. Thanks, Jobu!

6/28/2021 2:32:44 PM

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" The players have no reason to be afraid of the virus or to need the vaccination"

[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 2:37 PM. Reason : H]

6/28/2021 2:36:24 PM

They have no reason to fear the virus or the vaccination. So, the default is to stubbornness or inaction.

6/28/2021 2:45:09 PM

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" The players have no reason to be afraid of the virus"

https://www.sbnation.com/2021/4/14/22383455/jayson-tatum-covid-celtics-inhaler

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"Jayson Tatum needs an inhaler before games due to long-term Covid symptoms"

6/28/2021 2:57:09 PM

Yes, and other players got hit by trucks. But the players who didn't get hit by trucks don't need to worry about trucks any more than before. That's because getting hit by a truck isn't a meaningful threat.

Numbers matter, and covid is not a meaningful threat that should even occupy an inch of their mind, except for their responsibility to the public regarding vaccination.

[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 3:03 PM. Reason : a]

6/28/2021 3:00:40 PM

right wing chuds LOVE being disingenuous chuds almost as much as they love to hate anyone they deem to be an “other”

6/28/2021 3:03:46 PM

Okay.

Young athletes are not under meaningful danger from covid transmission.

I'm such a radical.

6/28/2021 3:04:35 PM

Maybe people don't trust the science when it's right, because people who claim to love science lie to them so regularly. Like telling young athletes that covid is a serious danger to them.

6/28/2021 3:05:42 PM

One of the worst parts of this situation, imo, is the lack of transparency by the NCAA. It seems like everything we have heard come out has been second or third hand reports from our team and others. It seems the NCAA made their decision on Saturday at 1am and just shut down their offices for the week. They could hold a press conference and answer some questions if they really stood by their decisions.
We don't know the reason they denied Elliot a chance at a doubleheader on Saturday. Is it really punishing Vandy if they had won and got less rest for the finals? We deserved to be more rested by coming from the winner's bracket.

6/28/2021 3:09:23 PM

The players are telling a much different story than this Kendall Rogers guy, who seems like he's carrying lots of water for the NCAA

Then you have this weird-ass tweet from our 1b Austin Murr.



https://twitter.com/amurr13/status/1409562848947281920

[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 4:02 PM. Reason : ]

6/28/2021 4:00:48 PM

wtf mate

[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 4:11 PM. Reason : any other reports statements etc?]

6/28/2021 4:11:01 PM

Not sure. I know the players' parents are putting out some details, but things start to get messy when piecing it all together. Who knows if the truth ever gets out.

FWIW, the Nebraska governor is on our side

Quote :

"LINCOLN, Neb. (KMTV) — During a press conference Monday, Nebraska Governor Pete Ricketts said the NCAA made a mistake in not allowing North Carolina State to play in the College World Series due to multiple players testing positive for COVID-19."

https://www.3newsnow.com/news/political/live-nebraska-gov-ricketts-holds-press-conference-on-end-date-of-covid-19-state-of-emergency


[Edited on June 28, 2021 at 4:22 PM. Reason : ]

6/28/2021 4:20:54 PM

that governor is not on our side

they’re cynically using our situation for political gain, because they know their party is full of deniers and anti-vaxxers

6/28/2021 4:25:57 PM

Lol at thinking the Gov of Nebraska gives a shit about who is in the CWS

Quote :

". So, the default is to stubbornness or inaction"

Good thing the NCAA gave them a pretty strong incentive I guess

6/28/2021 4:32:53 PM

Yeah any politician chiming in should be viewed skeptically for sure.

Also, I’m not gonna call Murr a liar. But how the hell does it make sense that the NCAA would just be looking to “find a reason” to kick State out of the tourney? That kinda conspiracy BS doesn’t even hold water. It would be in the NCAAs best interest not to send a team home. The NCAA doesn’t benefit from sending State home.

6/28/2021 4:33:14 PM

I mean, I don't think it's crazy to think we were sacrificed for "the greater good" in the NCAA eyes.

If they let our negative tested players play Friday and we won, then we would have been subject to constant testing up until the start of the championship series (and beyond). If a few more positive tests occurred (esp pitcher), then we likely don't have enough bodies to field a team. This means no championship game for the NCAA, Omaha, ESPN, etc.

6/28/2021 4:52:46 PM

i feel like that would be a much more clear cut case where the final series could be reasonably postponed.

the ncaa has taken way more shit and negativity for sending State home than they would have for letting State continue to play despite some players quarantining and/or testing positive.

6/28/2021 5:16:20 PM

people also need to stop taking what the players/their families say as gospel

they have an obvious reason to say whatever they need to say to cover their asses

6/28/2021 5:35:17 PM

Legit it’s fucked, but who cares anymore. Wolfpack fans are some of the worst fans

6/28/2021 5:39:47 PM

^^What is the "obvious reason" the players have for saying what happened to them?

To be allowed to compete for a national title, something they've spent their entire college careers training for?

6/28/2021 8:53:05 PM

to cover their ass for not caring enough to literally take one for the team and get vaccinated

6/29/2021 12:48:03 AM

Several posts up but regarding the Austin Murr tweet, I'd assume the most likely reason he video'd is to easily get names and players who were tested/etc. Not that it makes it any more legal

But I do agree the conspiracy theories are dumb. More than anything, this is just another case of the NCAA sucking at what it's made to do. I really agree with a lot of what Kickstand said.

At the end of the day this will probably be one of the biggest 'what ifs' in our team history. Maybe bigger than WBB last year.

6/29/2021 8:42:08 AM

So.. The guy said he didn't have any videos and then pulled out his phone to show that he did have videos? Who tf would do that?

6/29/2021 8:56:58 AM

Rick James

6/29/2021 9:02:57 AM

^ lol

^^^definitely the biggest “what if” in recent memory. Maybe ever…

[Edited on June 29, 2021 at 9:29 AM. Reason : Well, 1973 MBB remains this biggest.]

6/29/2021 9:29:32 AM

The 8 positive test were all for the delta variant

6/29/2021 10:26:11 AM

^ Adam Shefter now reporting on twitter 3 of the positive test were for the us air variant.

6/29/2021 10:41:35 AM

I dunno if I wanna give them any ideas, but I'm pleasantly surprised Barstool or Old Row didn't make a "STOP THE STEAL" shirt for the whole baseball situation.

6/30/2021 11:57:22 AM

Ball don’t lie

6/30/2021 9:15:08 PM

https://twitter.com/NCAACWS/status/1410424197159981056?s=19

Lulz

6/30/2021 10:40:50 PM

^oh damn lol

7/1/2021 6:47:56 AM

Bought a Miss St Championship shirt. feel like it the closet I'll get to an NC State Natty for sometime.

7/1/2021 8:08:35 AM

Lol people are doing too much

7/1/2021 8:55:18 AM

while it's pretty funny that no State player made the all CWS team (and it's a fun thing to get mad about)...not sure we had any great candidates aside from Highfill and Butler. Devonte Brown made some nice plays in the field but only batted 3/12 for the 3 games. we were facing great pitchers, but we only scored 2 runs after the Stanford game...so offensive stats weren't great.

Butler was 5/11 batting, HR, 5 RBI...but all 5 RBI came in the Stanford game.

Highfill would have a good case too, but only pitched in one game and only 2 pitchers even make the all CWS team and they don't have a utility spot where his batting might have helped his case.

7/1/2021 12:01:01 PM

Speaking of blown calls....

Throwback to 2014

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=is3DLy8aG58

btw... been watching this guy's channel for a while. It's great.

7/1/2021 1:50:43 PM

Everyone knows that championship teams are made up of a bunch of above average players, not all tournament* rosters.

*Does not include NBA super teams.

7/1/2021 3:27:57 PM

This is way more bs than the all team

Quote :

"Pack finishes 23rd in final Director's Cup, but worth noting baseball only received 5 points rather than its large haul for being in Final 4. Per GoPack release: "Any NCAA team that qualified but was unable to compete in any portion of the postseason was given five points." If the Pack had been awarded the same amount of points as Texas, who also made it to Final Four before being eliminated, NC State would have been 18th in final standings."

[Edited on July 2, 2021 at 10:04 AM. Reason : E]

7/2/2021 10:03:44 AM

Lulz

7/2/2021 10:07:53 AM

Quote :

"Highfill would have a good case too"

That .750 batting average

7/5/2021 12:39:22 AM

Quote :

"FWIW, the Nebraska governor is on our side "

Quote :

"that governor is not on our side"

Quote :

"Lol at thinking the Gov of Nebraska gives a shit about who is in the CWS"

I've lived in Nebraska for two years now, and all I can say is screw Pricketts and thank goodness he's term-limited. He and Avent would be best friends in the covid = politics camp.

7/5/2021 1:19:39 AM

NC State commit Kahlil Watson drafted 16th last night by the Marlins. Any chance he decides to still play here?

7/12/2021 9:30:06 AM

Nah, hes gone.

7/12/2021 9:38:58 AM

Yes he's going to turn down his guaranteed million(s) of dollars to be forced to play 3 years here and in all likelihood be drafted later in 3 years.

7/12/2021 10:11:55 AM