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11/16/2008 2:08:28 PM

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"^ They could reach more people by releasing it as a podcast on iTunes (so it can automatically synch with peoples' ipods)."

that's a great idea, and maybe they will, in conjunction with youtube.

do you still have a problem with the youtube videos though?

11/16/2008 2:57:06 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/16/us/politics/16blackberry.html?no_interstitial

Obama will be forced to give up his blackberry and likely the ability to email when he becomes president. He says he hopes to have a laptop in the oval office, making him the first president to do so.

I hope he can keep open as many channels of communication with the outside world as possible. Bush has long suffered from being isolated inside a bubble, and Obama seems to be eager to change that.

11/16/2008 3:37:50 PM

I guess I never really thought too much about that

that would suck

11/16/2008 3:48:59 PM

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"^^^ you do realize that it was FOX NEWS that reported on the "Africa is a country" story, right?"

What in the fuck does that have to do with anything? And yes I did know that. OMG why would Fox News do that, they're sucking the GOP's knob

11/16/2008 5:12:33 PM

Because Fox News is not

Quote :

"chalk another one up for the liberal media +1"

you idiot.

11/16/2008 5:47:56 PM

Quote :

" do you still have a problem with the youtube videos though? "

Yes, until they start releasing them in an easily downloadable format.

11/17/2008 1:46:13 AM

you know, you can download any video found on youtube.

11/17/2008 12:49:40 PM

^ not easily you can't, and you get the recompressed .flv encapsulated format, not the nice, clean raw MPEG4/whatever format they upload from.

http://tv.popcrunch.com/barack-obama-60-minutes-november-16-interview-video/

here's a good interview with Obama on 60 minutes though.

11/17/2008 2:41:40 PM

so you're complaining because the presidential addresses went from a rarely-listened to radio address to the widely use and youtube format, but that's not good enough because you can't download them in an uncompressed format?

I still fail to see your objections. Obviously, yes, there will always be ways to make government more accessible and transparent, but the guy got hired <2 weeks ago and with 2 blogs and a youtube channel, he is obviously trying to help get his message to the public more aggressively than any other president has.




[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 3:10 PM. Reason : .]

11/17/2008 3:05:42 PM

I'm not really complaining or saying it's a bad idea.

If if i ran a competing video service like Vimeo or iTunes, i'd be pissed that the legislative branch exclusively uses a competitor as their outlet.

I wouldn't be surprised if they do work something out eventually, but if they' dont, I wouldn't be surprised to see a lawsuit from one of the other sites, which wouldn't be a big deal, but it'd look embarrassing.

11/17/2008 3:25:29 PM

Moron, his weekly address is available on Yahoo, MSN, and AOL, and as an uncompressed quicktime movie.

11/17/2008 4:34:40 PM

^ Well good, it looks like my bitching worked

(where is the quicktime version btw?)

11/17/2008 4:50:28 PM

jesus. is this what it's come to?

11/17/2008 6:02:55 PM

socialism

11/17/2008 6:04:08 PM

how so? you seem to like it when it's National Socialism ...

Ist das nicht recht, Herr Shultz? message_topic.aspx?topic=546260&page=3#12306476





[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 6:18 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2008 6:15:02 PM

Quote :

"^ Well good, it looks like my bitching worked (where is the quicktime version btw?)"

http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/your_weekly_address_from_the_president_elect/

I posted that on the last page. Those alternatives have been there all along.

11/17/2008 7:03:32 PM

The YouTube Address is pretty neat, but people (other than journalists) will soon stop paying attn just like they did with the old-fashioned Presidential Radio Address.

The Weekly Address has been and always will be a press release read aloud by POTUS. Its just a way to let the press know he's still around and to maybe dominate the news cycle if he's lucky (the press are the only ones who actually listen to this shit anyways).

Obama's address was no different. It wasn't informative (what the fuck is involved with this "building a green economy" bullshit?). It wasn't inspiring (in a list of what America needs to stay competitive, Obama put "building roads and bridges" in the first and second spots. FUCK ME I WET MY PANTS).

So what was it? The usual PR bullshit that people have tuned out for 20 years and will continue to tune out (mark my words, even moron will get tired of checking his facebook page in a couple of years, believe it or not). God Bless, America.

[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ``]

11/17/2008 8:46:19 PM

Thanks for your input, ``.

11/17/2008 9:09:37 PM

His first address 1 week after elected and 2 months before he is inaugurated didn't spell out everything he's going to do for the next 4 years!!
DAMN YOU OBAMAAAAAAAAA!!!!

11/17/2008 9:14:00 PM

iop100

11/17/2008 9:35:19 PM

About the Palin comments on Africa... the hoax was a fake person claiming to be the source of the story, which was reported on the basis of an anonymous source. The hoax was not that the story itself was made up.

NY Times report on it:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/13/arts/television/13hoax.html?_r=1&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink&oref=slogin

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"The pranksters behind Eisenstadt acknowledge that he was not, through them, the anonymous source of the Palin leak. He just claimed falsely that he was the leaker--and they say they have no reason to cast doubt on the original story. For its part, Fox News Channel continues to stand behind its story."

To my knowledge, I haven't seen any follow-up saying that the story itself was also fabricated or has been recanted. I haven't been following it closely either, so I'd be interested in being corrected if I'm wrong on that.

[Edited on November 17, 2008 at 9:54 PM. Reason : ]

11/17/2008 9:53:51 PM

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"Because Fox News is not Quote : "chalk another one up for the liberal media +1" you idiot."

WOW REALLY? I had no idea ONLY Fox News reported this story. STFU and go home

11/17/2008 11:54:28 PM

agent,

I ain't asking Obama to spell out the details of what he will do as President b4 he takes office.

I'm saying folks should simmer the fuck down, because the address really wasn't that big of a deal. Maybe, YouTube will give the President one more way to push his agenda. But that isn't revolutionary. It's called propaganda, and politicians have been doing that for years.

[Edited on November 18, 2008 at 9:09 AM. Reason : ``]

11/18/2008 9:05:41 AM

Quote :

" So what was it? The usual PR bullshit that people have tuned out for 20 years and will continue to tune out (mark my words, even moron will get tired of checking his facebook page in a couple of years, believe it or not). God Bless, America."

FTR, I only check my Facebook about once a month, if that.

11/18/2008 9:52:58 AM

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"the [Palin - Africa] hoax was a fake person claiming to be the source of the story ... not that the story itself was made up."

whatever. no one believes the story now. you cant have imaginary people say things in politics, and keep any credibility.

Remember Dave, Juliet and the Twins?


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11/18/2008 11:27:44 AM

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" /message_topic.aspx?topic=457081"

Haha, always good for a laugh.

11/18/2008 11:38:45 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/17/campbell.brown.lobbyists/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

11/18/2008 1:06:07 PM

^That has been beaten into the ground in the "Obama Flip Flops" thread.

11/18/2008 1:29:37 PM

^ how exactly is a president who's not allowed to email suppose to "hear" peoples' voices?

He can't depend on the representatives because they are controlled by lobbyists too.

He should implement McCain's idea of a European style inquisition.

11/18/2008 1:35:24 PM

^ aye. It seems kinda surprising it hasn't been done already. Wouldn't it be natural to have a Q&A secession at the end of the State of the Union Address?

Of course, I don't think many Presidents would voluntarily subject themselves to that level of scrutiny, though. Even McCain would probably get tired of them after one or two.

It will probably take an act of congress to make this a continual thing. Or maybe it would require a constitutional amendment. I don't really know the legal implications. The President is already required to report on the State of the Union to congress, it seems like it would be easy to say that this should include a discussion period. *shrug*

11/18/2008 2:21:16 PM

Quote :

"I still fail to see your objections. Obviously, yes, there will always be ways to make government more accessible and transparent, but the guy got hired <2 weeks ago and with 2 blogs and a youtube channel, he is obviously trying to help get his message to the public more aggressively than any other president has."

-agentlion

What does getting your message have to do with transparency??????

transparency is about having an open decision making process. Them blogs and YouTube channel are about selling you on Obama's proposals.

Plz 2 lrn the difference.

11/18/2008 2:43:13 PM

it was just a word. don't read too much into it

11/18/2008 3:48:15 PM

way to twist his words, ``

he's just saying that this is a good start towards the goal of transparency, not the end result.

now quit being such a pedant.

11/18/2008 3:50:20 PM

I expect his addresses to be more detailed as time progresses and particularly when he gets in office. This was his first one so it's not surprising that it covered a broad range of things and had less specifics. Give it time. There is no reason to make an issue out of this right now except to be argumentative.

11/18/2008 3:50:56 PM

^ agree

and on the issue of transparency, I do think that frequent and accessible communication from the president to us will inevitably lead to more transparency anyway.

I mean, if Bush had given a weekly, video address, available on the internet, no matter what he said, it would have helped people relate to him more.

11/18/2008 3:57:26 PM

Al-Qaida No. 2 insults Obama with racial epithet!

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D94I2RM80&show_article=1

11/19/2008 11:15:53 AM

^Prolly deserves it's own thread.

This will definitely help Obama, since he's clearly not "palling around" with these terrorists.

11/19/2008 11:30:01 AM

Wow, a 'house negro'? That's pretty rough...

11/19/2008 1:13:18 PM

'house slave' was apparently the literal translation

11/19/2008 1:37:58 PM

"house slave" was the actual arabic phrase used. Al Qaeda provided their own English translation, in which they specifically used the words "house negro"

11/19/2008 1:54:06 PM

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""^ They could reach more people by releasing it as a podcast on iTunes (so it can automatically synch with peoples' ipods).""

FYI, i was browsing the iTunes Store today and found just this. It looks like he has his own podcast, and ABC News is podcasting it too


(itunes link) http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=297015820

and from ABC News

http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewPodcast?id=297004759

11/19/2008 11:09:13 PM

^ Wow, they are really on top of things over there... it almost seems like they know what they're doing




[Edited on November 20, 2008 at 1:39 AM. Reason : ]

11/20/2008 1:33:20 AM

^ @ propogating propoganda, brother.

11/20/2008 1:47:17 AM

these podcasts and videos sound like a pretty cool idea actually

hopefully it won't end up being a boring rehash of the same shit throughout his term

11/20/2008 7:55:05 AM

this is funny

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" When Americans voted for Obama on November 4, citizens around the world celebrated his resounding win. People in cities and villages danced and cheered in the streets, and Kenya declared the day after the election a national holiday. In China -- where the media is state-run and domestic stories are almost always the top stories -- newspaper headlines read "First Black President of the United States." When President Bush was elected for his second term, the cover on the U.K.'s Daily Mirror read, "How can 59,054,087 people be so dumb?" The day after Obama's victory, the paper's cover read, "GOBAMA!" "

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/19/obama.world.image/index.html

11/20/2008 9:40:38 AM

it's funny..... because it's true?

11/20/2008 10:03:34 AM

^^ "US to world: see... we're not racist!"

11/20/2008 10:43:38 AM

11/21/2008 9:08:19 AM

well that went on about 3:30 too long.....

[Edited on November 21, 2008 at 9:15 AM. Reason : .]

11/21/2008 9:15:39 AM