From the last page:

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"The nation’s No. 1 prospect wasn’t eligible for the McDonald’s game due to a bum provision that bars fifth-year seniors for playing. He threw down thunder on The World at this weekend’s Nike Hoop Summit. He even managed to indirectly cause NC State’s athletic department to violate the First Amendment (more on this later). Oh, and he now might be going to the NBA in a couple months. wha?"

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution is the part of the United States Bill of Rights that expressly prohibits the United States Congress from making laws "respecting an establishment of religion" or that prohibit the free exercise of religion, infringe the freedom of speech, infringe the freedom of the press, limit the right to peaceably assemble, or limit the right to petition the government for a redress of grievances.


WTF? How did we violate the First Amendment? I doubt we kept him from going to church? I don't see us keeping him from attending a protest. So the only thing I can think of is we told him he couldn't say certain things to the media, or kept some member of the media from printing something. This all seems doubtful and would make no sense.

[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

4/14/2009 10:48:50 PM

2 late

[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

4/14/2009 10:49:46 PM

i'm sure they were trying to reference that facebook group.

4/14/2009 10:52:59 PM

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"Larry Drew isn't the transfer story I'm talking about. A month or two ago there was a transfer rumor that still hasn't been resolved, and gravis at packpride doesn't want anything posted about it yet (seeing as the player hasn't asked for his release yet, don't want any tampering violations). i'm not a premium member there, but i respect gravis."

Any chance it's one of the kids from UVA?


[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM. Reason : / \ / \]

4/14/2009 10:56:31 PM

They're saying that it's stupid that NC State had to cover their asses by forcing down the John Wall facebook group

^no one in conference is planning to transfer to any other in conference school right now.

4/14/2009 10:56:54 PM

Oh well that's just dumb; especially to make a big deal about it to make our athletic department look bad.

4/14/2009 10:57:16 PM

Throw it in the conspiracy thread. Where's the quote from?

[Edited on April 14, 2009 at 11:08 PM. Reason : V "something might not happen"?!?! Stop that!]

4/14/2009 11:05:05 PM

just heard something might not happen, shoot those odds down to like 10

4/14/2009 11:05:51 PM

quit while you're ahead mang.

4/14/2009 11:12:17 PM

http://slamonline.com/online/nba/2009/04/will-john-wall-even-go-to-college/

4/14/2009 11:14:28 PM

really probably won't, forget i said much, but there's still good news about it. there were about 3 good things playing for us, now there's only 2.

^yes, wall will go to college

4/14/2009 11:15:01 PM

I watched Hoop Dreams on Hulu.com last night after hearing how good the movie was. That was a pretty good documentary, despite the length. After watching it I am even more in favor of limiting the involvement of the shoe companies with these kids and I am in favor of the NCAA policing the recruitment of these kids even more. There are some shady characters and "scouts" out there. That Nike ABCD camp was crap and probably still is. Yeah the coaches that attend can see if players can shoot and dribble, but all of the players that attend these types of camps aren't playing team ball, they are playing for themselves. You could see it when Gates would be working real hard to get open and the guy with the ball instead of passing to him would take a contested jump shot. How do these camps show how good of a teammate that these players are and if they are even coachable?

It was cool seeing William Gates' recruiting visits with Kevin O'Neill (the guy that was the interim coach of Arizona 2 years ago) when he was at Marquette and part of his official visit to Marquette. They showed him around the arena, put his name up on the scoreboard, and introduced him. In one of the luxury boxes they played a tape for him of the Marquette radio announcer calling a fictitious late game situation in a close game against Notre Dame in which Gates hit a buzzer beater. These things are now outlawed by the NCAA for some odd reason.

It was sad, but the movie showed that we used to be a big time program. Besides Marquette, Gates was being recruited by Indiana, Kansas, and State. At one point during the movie you could see Gates wearing a black NC State hat.

4/14/2009 11:28:27 PM

^I'm gonna have to check that movie out, it sounds interesting.

4/15/2009 12:08:27 AM

The transfer story Big Ego is referring to is Trey Thompkins, who is at UGA and has possibly inquired about whether or not his services would be welcome at NC State. It's on the UGA board, or at least it was.

4/15/2009 12:12:15 AM

It's 2 hours and 51 minutes in length. So yeah you won't be going anywhere for awhile, but it is worth it, and passes by pretty quickly.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/28514/hoop-dreams?c=Sports

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 12:15 AM. Reason : ]

4/15/2009 12:13:01 AM

^I saw that movie in Theology class of all places back in High School. Very good.

4/15/2009 7:26:31 AM

Is Trey Thompkins any good. I don't want a Marques Johnson type situation again.

4/15/2009 8:41:53 AM

^4 Stars, #9 & #11 PF in '08 (per scouts and rival), so i think he's better than johnson.

4/15/2009 8:51:33 AM

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"if theres one thing I need, its more soul crushing hope in regards to John Wall. I've gotten over the fact he isn't coming here like ten times already, only to do the cycle again."

4/15/2009 8:59:05 AM

hoops dreams was one of my favorite movies back in elementary school

4/15/2009 9:00:02 AM

Simply going by Thompkins profile, he's an animal on defense and on the boards. That's really all we need.

He made the SEC all-freshman team, for what it's worth.

4/15/2009 9:29:04 AM

What are the chances of him actually coming here? Why does he want to transfer?

4/15/2009 9:36:39 AM

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"how would anything other than him coming here be good news. sounds like you already let us know. "

I consider him not going to UNC or Duke good news, as well.

4/15/2009 9:38:57 AM

^^^^ holy shit i'm getting old

in addition to that flick, anyone remember the "Prep Hoops - Chicago" reality/documentary show back in ~ 2000? followed around eddy curry and some others during their senior seasons. did a great job juxtaposing the inner city chicago high school players and the kids who were stars on the suburban teams. was a great show, hated that there weren't additional seasons.

ok, back to discussions of john wall and mystery transfers....

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 9:43 AM. Reason : .]

4/15/2009 9:42:24 AM

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"What are the chances of him actually coming here? Why does he want to transfer?"

I don't know the chances, but I'd think the fact that his coach was fired would be one reason why he might want to transfer. Perhaps he thinks that he won't fit into what Coach Fox wants to do at UGA.

4/15/2009 9:59:17 AM

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"^^ let's hope you know more than gunzz, then."

oh dont worry about me Simon. thanks to the dicks like you im not sharing any more information with this board; ill will continue to share with BigEgo, BrassMonkey and Aph though.

The reason the information about the SEC transfer was not to be posted is b/c it could considered tampering on our end by the NCAA.

I would suggest removing that post regardless of where its being discussed.

4/15/2009 10:01:26 AM

So what time does Wall officially announce he's going to Kentucky?

4/15/2009 10:11:46 AM

^^ well you never actually shared any information, you just let people know that you knew something (which, turns out, wasn't true). so fine by me.

4/15/2009 10:25:13 AM

lol

4/15/2009 10:37:02 AM

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"^4 Stars, #9 & #11 PF in '08 (per scouts and rival), so i think he's better than johnson."

Johnson was a top 100 recruit when he committed to Tennessee.

4/15/2009 10:47:06 AM

^Noted, but Thompkins was Top30.

And has been mentioned, on the SEC all-freshman team.

FWIW

4/15/2009 10:58:31 AM

fwiw my sn is Brass Monkey with a space. i know people can't usually see the space b/c of the way the name usually shows up, but i just wanted to point it out. whenever you do the user tags and don't put the space in it tags a user called brassmonkey who copied me and only has 32 posts.

4/15/2009 11:26:50 AM

We just got up a the last Luke Cothron video and it's surely the best one in the sense that it show cases his shot, his dribble and his passing.

http://wolfpackhoops.blogspot.com/2009/04/video-luke-cothron-2009-boo-williams_15.html

**also the Wall rumor is certainly true, and at least trying this route was probably the Cliftons thought all along. Yesterday Wall also said that "staying close to home" has become the #1 factor in where he want to go to school.

4/15/2009 2:22:14 PM

^ just like the Cousins rumor, right?

4/15/2009 2:29:30 PM

OH SNAP

4/15/2009 2:30:47 PM

oh don't tease me. i think i should lay off the State fan sites for awhile. i'm flying to Cleveland tomorrow, return Friday, and immediately drive to Raleigh afterwards. it will be good to get away from the internet for the next few days. hopefully more comes out on the rumor when I come back to Charlotte.

4/15/2009 2:33:09 PM

^^^you are a fucking idiot. The only Cousins "rumor" they posted was that someone close to the situation felt pretty good about him coming here.

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 2:33 PM. Reason : d]

4/15/2009 2:33:29 PM

we'll see who the fucking idiot is when John Wall doesn't show up here in the fall.

4/15/2009 2:35:33 PM

Yes exactly like the Cousins rumor...which was from a source as close to the program as you're going to get. And here's the quote from the ESPN chat where Wall stated it himself.

"Mike (Denver, Colorado): To John Wall: John, what would you say is the most important factor for you in making your college decision? i.e. Coaching style, playing close to home, TV exposure?

SportsNation John Wall: Staying close to home, making sure I get along with the coach, the community of the school. You have to feel that you feel safea nd like a family. "



you want a link too???
http://proxy.espn.go.com/chat/chatESPN?event_id=25978

4/15/2009 2:37:34 PM

^^That still wouldn't prove a goddamn thing about their journalistic reputation. The "rumor" they posted is that he is looking into a loophole that would allow him to jump straight to the NBA. How would him not being at State next year (likely) even remotely mean that their rumor was disproved?

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 2:38 PM. Reason : d]

4/15/2009 2:37:41 PM

If you try and look objectively and take everything Wall has said in to account, it still isn't too promising to us. I'm not talking about what peoples sources say or trying to read between lines. But actually look at his quotes.

He wants to play for a program who can win a title. Even with Wall, we aren't that team. It's nice that he wants to stay close to home, if that is actually true, but all that means is Duke fans must be walking around today with hard-ons if you look at everything he has said...

4/15/2009 2:40:29 PM

Im under no delusions that John Wall is coming here. As far as I am concerned, that ship sailed a long time ago. I am just responding to OhBoyeee trolling again.

Isn't it about time for another extended timeout for this retard?

4/15/2009 2:43:09 PM

The Wall to the NBA thing is not a rumor at all. It's in the N&O's blog, on a Kentucky recruiting site, and being reported by Chad Ford of ESPN.

and PS. we never ever hinted that NC State was getting Wall. We're just covering him closely just like any recruit since we're on his list

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 2:45 PM. Reason : sp]

4/15/2009 2:43:40 PM

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"their journalistic reputation"

They don't even spell check their articles, what the fuck are you talking about "journalistic reputation"? LOL.

^^^^^ Duke and UNC are both close to home for Wall as well. It's ridiculous to try and interpret a 19 year old kid's words, especially a kid who is in Wall's position. We'll see whenever he pulls a hat out of his gym bag.

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 2:44 PM. Reason : good grief this thread blew up]

4/15/2009 2:43:48 PM

People are saying UNC has "no chance" but I don't buy that until he officially rules them out. Lets face it, UNC is a pretty damn attractive school to any kid they'll take right now. Far more than any other school in the country IMO...

4/15/2009 2:48:01 PM

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"we'll see who the fucking idiot is when John Wall doesn't show up here in the fall"

I know this is hard for your black-or-white mind to understand, but only those who are positive Wall is coming to state will look like idiots if he doesn't. Not those of us who aren't expecting it, but still holding onto a glimmer of hope. However, if he does (miraculously) come to State, you will look like an idiot. Troll.

4/15/2009 2:55:01 PM

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"They don't even spell check their articles, what the fuck are you talking about "journalistic reputation"? LOL."

hahahahah

4/15/2009 3:03:36 PM

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"However, if he does (miraculously) come to State, you will look like you're already an idiot."

4/15/2009 3:05:57 PM

Don't get me wrong Bullet, I would absolutely love to have Wall come to NCSU next year.

What I don't love is people posting things such as "we've just increased our chances of landing Wall to 25% to 30%", but following up with, something along the lines of, "I can't tell you why right now, because I was told not to say anything."

That's stupid, IMHO, and it usually turns out to be complete bullshit. See the wolfpackhoops.com "article" about how their inside sources felt fantastic about us landing Cousins.

4/15/2009 3:07:49 PM

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"What I don't love is people posting things such as "we've just increased our chances of landing Wall to 25% to 30%", but following up with, something along the lines of, "I can't tell you why right now, because I was told not to say anything.""

Wow, i whole-heartedly agree with you there.

However, as far as the wph thing, i think you're really blowing that way out of proportion.

4/15/2009 3:22:04 PM