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6/2/2009 12:29:09 AM

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"What is the worst thing about being kept awake by other people when you have a shit ton of stuff to do in morning, afternoon, and night ALL WEEK and they have nothing to do?"

are they making noise fucking you can hear through the walls?

6/2/2009 1:47:21 AM

^That reminds me...I feel sorry for my old neighbor when I was married.

6/2/2009 2:22:35 AM

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"have you seen my baseball? [Edited on June 2, 2009 at 12:22 AM. Reason : are you gonna model like adult size baby clothes or something?]"

no. and no. it is also sponsored by uniquities.

6/2/2009 9:30:33 AM

dark blue with a dark grey tie


or pale green with a pale green/tan design tie?

6/2/2009 9:32:44 AM

What is uniquities? Do they make baby-sized adult clothes?

6/2/2009 9:33:30 AM

why does Greg Kinnear continue to get work ?

6/2/2009 9:39:12 AM

^^^ green. if you haven't already chosen yet

^^ no no no you silly! it is a boutique for normal size people (women, not men...sowwie. unless you like to wear dresses!) http://www.uniquities.com/

^ i don't know. but i have liked some of the movies he's been in (ghost town, nurse betty, and who doesn't love you've got mail hahaha)

6/2/2009 12:25:40 PM

trivia tonight?

6/2/2009 12:27:29 PM

BLT on wheat toast or Chicken Salad on an onion bagel?

6/2/2009 12:29:09 PM

i am going to try to come. i have a previous engagement though i'm not sure it will be over in time

6/2/2009 12:29:10 PM

so you are gonna be showing off some skin at this thing i bet...like the dress on that link?

6/2/2009 12:40:36 PM

i am wearing a dress similar to this in a kelly green color:


and then i am wearing joe's jeans and a yellow tank top similar to this (but this isn't it):





not too scandalous.


[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 12:56 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2009 12:55:06 PM

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"BLT on wheat toast or Chicken Salad on an onion bagel?"

ignored FTL

6/2/2009 12:58:08 PM

OMG I DIDNT SEE!! FORGIVE MEEEEE

chicken salad on onion bagel!!! yum i love onion bagels!

6/2/2009 12:58:58 PM

i just knew you were cool

6/2/2009 12:59:58 PM

man onion, everything, and salt bagels are my favorite.

i am either cool, or really, really disgusting

6/2/2009 1:01:43 PM

omg everything bagel, yea def chicken salad on an everything bagel.

6/2/2009 1:02:20 PM

you think your nip is gonna poke out like that one girls did in the pic?

6/2/2009 1:08:22 PM

haha no. i almost added that i am wearing a bra when i posted it because i KNEW you would comment on it! that was just the closest picture i could find to the dress i'm wearing. i think it is the same dress. it is at least the same designer. not the same color. and again, i am wearing a bra. haha.

6/2/2009 1:11:25 PM

awww thats sweet

6/2/2009 1:16:42 PM

do you still like me as an e-friend even though we have differing views?

6/2/2009 1:24:00 PM

haha YES! i think i have differing views from most of my IRL friends anyways. sometimes we get in fights, but usually it ain't no thang.

6/2/2009 1:24:50 PM

What do you think of this face?

6/2/2009 1:26:35 PM

where do you see yourself living after college?

6/2/2009 1:26:50 PM

^^ i just want to pinch his lil' cheeks he doesn't look like he would ever do anything bad!

^ well i'm done with college and now i live in greensboro. well right now i'm living in raleigh for the summmmer. after grad school, i don't know. wherever i get a job i suppose haha

6/2/2009 1:28:21 PM

do you have the potential to live happily ever after?

6/2/2009 1:33:26 PM

What do you think about the (potential, and very probably) fact that the Supreme Court is about to rule against the appellate court opinion of its newest member, and amend the Civil Rights Act, all at once with their decision on the Firemen case? Other than the fact that it is a judicial headache?

Do you think Sotomayor's opinion (while she was on the second appellate, ruling for the state against the firemen) could extrapolated as "racist?"

What about the Clean Water Act? Do you think the SC will vote to restore the act to its original purpose, before the farming industry and special interests that simply didn't want to pay to clean up their water pollution forked it all up?

6/2/2009 1:33:51 PM

and when they ask her why she agreed with it she will turn their argument upside down...shes gonna say she was following the law not being "empathetic"

6/2/2009 1:44:21 PM

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"he doesn't look like he would ever do anything bad!"

ha. looks can be deceiving. you wouldn't think he'd make you chase him around outside for 30min or pee on your foot.

6/2/2009 1:57:39 PM

oh my god

well i don't know the best answer to your questions. it is a massive judicial headache. i think the best line to summarize the ENTIRE thing that i've read is "damned if you do damned if you don't." (i think that was from our good old friend Souter - fittingly i suppose). i mean either way, one group of people was going to be angry right? either the minorities were going to say the test was flawed to disadvantage them or the white people were going to be like oh blah blah blah using race as a preferential hiring criteria. which then pisses off conservatives who are already against affirmative action and using race as a plus factor. plus it is kind of hard to draw the line between a term like "plus factor" and "preferential" (but that is a whole other debate).

and second, yes, i think it could be seen as racist. that is one of the big problems - it can seen as racist. i think anything, if you infer enough, can be made to seem racist. but i think that is the problem--people are inferring a lot here. i think the big issue is that the 2nd just affd w/o much reason, which made everyone even angrier (because everyone wants a reason!). and so now people are saying things like she "reads racial preferences and quotas into the Constitution, even to the point of dishonoring those who preserve our public safety." i mean, that is a little ridiculous to me. but i don't know, it is just a mess. anytime there is a case where race is a factor (whether it should or shouldn't be) drama unfolds. and obviously the timing isn't exactly great for her.

what do YOU ^^^, ^^ think?

and i don't know about the Clean Water Act. i haven't really been following.

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"ha. looks can be deceiving. you wouldn't think he'd make you chase him around outside for 30min or pee on your foot. "

hahaha. well he's a BABY! he can't help it!

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 2:09 PM. Reason : .]

6/2/2009 2:08:01 PM

why arent you at the pool?

6/2/2009 2:12:01 PM

ummmm. i don't want to wear a bathing suit? haha.

plus i ran errands this morning and i have to leave again at 3.

and no one to go with

6/2/2009 2:13:58 PM

first off

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"Whether born from experience or inherent physiological or cultural differences, a possibility I abhor less or discount less than my colleague Judge Cedarbaum, our gender and national origins may and will make a difference in our judging. Justice O'Connor has often been cited as saying that a wise old man and wise old woman will reach the same conclusion in deciding cases. I am not so sure Justice O'Connor is the author of that line since Professor Resnik attributes that line to Supreme Court Justice Coyle. I am also not so sure that I agree with the statement. First, as Professor Martha Minnow has noted, there can never be a universal definition of wise. Second, I would hope that a wise Latina woman with the richness of her experiences would more often than not reach a better conclusion than a white male who hasn't lived that life. Let us not forget that wise men like Oliver Wendell Holmes and Justice Cardozo voted on cases which upheld both sex and race discrimination in our society. Until 1972, no Supreme Court case ever upheld the claim of a woman in a gender discrimination case. I, like Professor Carter, believe that we should not be so myopic as to believe that others of different experiences or backgrounds are incapable of understanding the values and needs of people from a different group. Many are so capable. As Judge Cedarbaum pointed out to me, nine white men on the Supreme Court in the past have done so on many occasions and on many issues including Brown. However, to understand takes time and effort, something that not all people are willing to give. For others, their experiences limit their ability to understand the experiences of others. Other simply do not care. Hence, one must accept the proposition that a difference there will be by the presence of women and people of color on the bench. Personal experiences affect the facts that judges choose to see. My hope is that I will take the good from my experiences and extrapolate them further into areas with which I am unfamiliar. I simply do not know exactly what that difference will be in my judging. But I accept there will be some based on my gender and my Latina heritage. I also hope that by raising the question today of what difference having more Latinos and Latinas on the bench will make will start your own evaluation. For people of color and women lawyers, what does and should being an ethnic minority mean in your lawyering? For men lawyers, what areas in your experiences and attitudes do you need to work on to make you capable of reaching those great moments of enlightenment which other men in different circumstances have been able to reach. For all of us, how do change the facts that in every task force study of gender and race bias in the courts, women and people of color, lawyers and judges alike, report in significantly higher percentages than white men that their gender and race has shaped their careers, from hiring, retention to promotion and that a statistically significant number of women and minority lawyers and judges, both alike, have experienced bias in the courtroom? Each day on the bench I learn something new about the judicial process and about being a professional Latina woman in a world that sometimes looks at me with suspicion. I am reminded each day that I render decisions that affect people concretely and that I owe them constant and complete vigilance in checking my assumptions, presumptions and perspectives and ensuring that to the extent that my limited abilities and capabilities permit me, that I reevaluate them and change as circumstances and cases before me requires. I can and do aspire to be greater than the sum total of my experiences but I accept my limitations. I willingly accept that we who judge must not deny the differences resulting from experience and heritage but attempt, as the Supreme Court suggests, continuously to judge when those opinions, sympathies and prejudices are appropriate. There is always a danger embedded in relative morality, but since judging is a series of choices that we must make, that I am forced to make, I hope that I can make them by informing myself on the questions I must not avoid asking and continuously pondering. We, I mean all of us in this room, must continue individually and in voices united in organizations that have supported this conference, to think about these questions and to figure out how we go about creating the opportunity for there to be more women and people of color on the bench so we can finally have statistically significant numbers to measure the differences we will and are making."

i agree with that

and i already said the empathy thing earlier

she was nominated by bush 41 first, then clinton...shes qualified, and i personally would like someone like her on the bench

6/2/2009 2:17:24 PM

go naked! im sure you look great in a suit silly

so?!?!?! you still have 45 minutes

thats the best...you can relax and just chill

[Edited on June 2, 2009 at 2:18 PM. Reason : sdf]

6/2/2009 2:17:33 PM

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"what do YOU ^^^, ^^ think?"

I basically agree with everything you said

and the Clean Water act is going to be voted on in a few weeks and I have no idea how it's going to go. I'd like to believe they'd get it back on track, but I think the conservatives are just going to vote in spite, no matter how much sense clean water makes.

6/2/2009 2:28:28 PM

yea i need to read up on that. i'm so behind on life.

and i'm sure the conservatives are going to vote to spite. i ALMOST typed that but then i was like, well i don't now much about it so i'm not going to comment i try to take the high road sometimes

6/2/2009 2:59:47 PM

you should go to trivia tonight...

i'll definitely be there


unfortunately i won't be enjoying any tasty wings

6/2/2009 3:24:30 PM

i didn't go haha. oops.

why couldn't you eat wings? that is like, 80% of the reason to go did you have fun? did you win?

i was disgusting after the fashion show. so hot. so sweaty. so sticky from small children. so heinous from the copious amount of makeup and hairspray. not to mention the edward scissor hands hair style. there was one place and one place only i felt safe to show my face. and that was obviously jackpot.

6/3/2009 1:42:21 PM

what's your favorite color?

6/3/2009 1:46:48 PM

when were you at jackpot?

I was there until 12:30 or so, sitting at the bar with vinylbandit and simonn

I may have seen you

6/3/2009 1:49:07 PM

i think it changes. right now i like green. but not all shades of green. for example i hate seafoam green. but i love a good avocado green. and i like kelly green

i also love purple. and most shades of it

6/3/2009 1:49:26 PM

i just wasn't planning on eating there so i could save money...but i had wings anyway....although i like the boneless more than the regular wings...

and we did win...it was fun

6/3/2009 1:52:40 PM

^^^ ummmm 12 - 2. late!!! when were you there? i wasn't going to go out but then i had been planning on going out last night for like 2 weeks so i figured i should use my one night out and do SOMETHING. so jackpot it was

^ man. i am going to go one of these times i swear. i <3 wings.

6/3/2009 1:56:00 PM

ah hell. yall just had to talk about wings.

6/3/2009 2:02:39 PM

i know

i didn't eat lunch today and now my stomach has that feeling...you know the gurgly one where it feels like it is digesting itself because it is so hungry and it is kindof nauseating and makes you NOT want to eat because you feel kind of ill from not eating for so long.

that is how i feel. and i know what would make it feel better. wings. wings would make it feel much better!

6/3/2009 2:05:02 PM

ha. I'm addicted. I have to go to Buffalo Wild Wings like once a week.

6/3/2009 2:09:33 PM

ttt

6/3/2009 8:47:06 PM

hitched or ditched comes on at 9.

why did your thread give me 2 oh shit errors?

6/3/2009 8:57:38 PM

home alone or home alone 2?

6/3/2009 8:57:40 PM