honoring memorial day by making a political statement!


what a douche

[Edited on May 15, 2007 at 11:47 AM. Reason : from his comments about average folks, I doubt he cares about the military]

5/15/2007 11:46:26 AM

^I think any time is a good time to try to gather support to bring the troops home from Iraq.

5/15/2007 10:27:15 PM

^
..and sell hedge funds.

5/15/2007 10:41:23 PM

Edwards earned nearly a half million as part-time hedge fund advisor

http://www.newsobserver.com/100/story/574713.html

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"Democratic Presidential candidate John Edwards earned nearly a half million dollars while working as a part-time advisor for a New York-based hedge fund, according to campaign report made public today. Edwards, a former North Carolina senator, reported earning $479,512 as a senior advisor to Fortress Investment Group LLC last year. During his last campaign, Edwards had decried "two different economies in this country: one for wealthy insiders and one for everybody else." While campaigning in Iowa Tuesday, Edwards defended his work for the hedge fund. "If you look at what I've done since the last election, it is true that I did consulting work for a hedge fund part-time," Edwards told the Associated Press. "It's also true that I started a poverty center at the University of North Carolina, that I led a minimum wage initiatives in six states -- all successful -- that I started a college-for-everyone program for poor communities in eastern North Carolina, that I helped organize thousands of workers into unions, that I did humanitarian work in Africa." Edwards also earned $333,334 in royalties from his book on boyhood homes that was published by HarperCollins Publishers. He donated the money to charity. Edwards also reported that he earned $40,000 from his position as director of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill's Center on Poverty Work and Opportunity. He also reported earning $415,000 in speaking fees, mainly to universities. He typically charged $32,000 to $40,000 per speech. "

5/16/2007 11:51:43 PM

^he obviously only worked at the hedge fund to learn more about the poor

5/17/2007 12:37:37 PM

Does a guy have to be poor in order to champion the poor?

Since when is it a bad thing to make money?

5/17/2007 12:42:00 PM

^

Its not bad at all to make money.




When he claim there are "Two Americas", that the rich people are the enemy, and that he is a common man, then its a problem.

5/17/2007 12:44:06 PM

He's never said that the rich are the enemy

5/17/2007 12:45:47 PM

Yeah, at least the repugnantcans are up front that they don't give a shit about the poor.

5/17/2007 12:47:17 PM

^

Actually, its more along the lines of provide for yourself, its not the governments job.

5/17/2007 12:48:17 PM

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"Congress has been spending money like John Edwards in a beauty shop"

5/17/2007 12:49:52 PM

^ In reviewing your previous posts, I'm going to assume you're classifying this information as proof of hypocrisy. Either that or this info is supposed to distance Edwards in general from his fan base, the left, and from thos he's trying to help, the poor.

And you'd be wrong in either case.

[rant] - Yes I'm warning you ahead of time.

It makes absolutely no logical sense to chastise Edwards for making money. I've seen this pathetic excuse for an argument far too often, particularly in this thread. Yes, Edwards is rich. Damn near every politician is to a certain degree. Politicians almosta always get their start in lucrative careers. Nevertheless, not all politicians are conservative.

Wait.... what was that??

Yes, you heard me. So what if Edwards makes a lot of money? Does this exclude him from discussing issues based on poverty? Ooh ah, Edwards got a $400 haircut. Oh my! He's got a $6 million dollar house! He really doesn't care about the poor after all! Bullshit. He's got the money, he earned, and he's spending it the way he wants. Nevermind the fact he donated $400,000 in book royalties to charity, or that he's put so much time and effort into the Poverty Center at UNC for, lets face, pennies compared to the $$Texas$$ he could have earned from other available opportunities.

Edwards has had a lot of financial and political success. That does not preclude him from observing the drawbacks and outright flaws in the system (from his perspective). What he's trying to do is make the system better, even if it is a system he has used to his advantage.

If you disagree with Edwards' political stances, fine, I have no issue with that. I'm not saying I agree with Edwards. I'm not throwing my support behind him. I am however telling a few regulars in this thread to stop this dumbfuck rhetoric about his finances. It is intellectually lazy and devoid of sound logic.


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[Edited on May 17, 2007 at 12:59 PM. Reason : Optimus Prime for President - Win the war on terror in style...]

5/17/2007 12:57:52 PM

nobody is bashing edwards for making money...they're bashing him for making a shitload of money in immoral ways, and then pretending like he is a common man

just like nobody would give a flying fuck how much gas gore's jets guzzled if he didnt pretend like he cared more about the environment than anybody else

5/17/2007 1:10:29 PM

Only the poor can talk about the plight of poor people.

5/17/2007 1:11:27 PM

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"they're bashing him for making a shitload of money in immoral ways"

explain plz

5/17/2007 1:14:10 PM

trial lawyer
hedge fund
etc

5/17/2007 1:15:11 PM

having money while advocating for the poor
etc

5/17/2007 1:27:29 PM

are you intentionally missing the point?

here, i'll boldface the more important part since Prawn Star ignored it

Quote :

"they're bashing him for making a shitload of money in immoral ways, and then pretending like he is a common man"

5/17/2007 1:28:44 PM

I don't care about his money


but I do care when he condemns others with money and tries to have this "image" of being a good honest man, "son of a millworker" (lol, son of the manager of a mill)...when he is anything but thisperson he tries to present

kinda like hillary and her accents

5/17/2007 1:33:35 PM

Quote :

"but I do care when he condemns others with money"

i'd be curious to see where this has happened.

5/17/2007 1:43:10 PM

umm, he thrives on class warfare

if you don't see that you're blind

5/17/2007 1:53:35 PM

no. i'm asking you to show me where he condemns people for having money.

and how about instead using blanket remarks about me instead of actual evidence to back up claims. thanks.

[Edited on May 17, 2007 at 1:56 PM. Reason : .]

5/17/2007 1:55:58 PM

On class warfare...




“there are two Americas. … One America that does the work, another America that reaps the reward.”

"I think we've got two public school systems in this country. We've got one for the most affluent communities and one for everybody else."

"[There's] one America that pays the taxes, another America that
gets the tax breaks."





Now, if you really want to know what John Edwards and his wife think of the 2nd America (the normal people, not the rich elite that the Edwards are), then take a look at what they say about their neighbors.

5/17/2007 3:19:25 PM

so where does he condemn people for having money?

sure he says that things are unfair for the poor. that doesn't mean that he's upset at people for having money. instead, he's condemning the way that the poor are being treated as opposed to the rich.

5/17/2007 3:25:14 PM

He plays class warfare against the rich (the group that he is a part of). I would say it is safe to assume that he is trying to paint them in a bad light in order to drum up more support from the lower classes by using, at the worst, outright lies, and at best, controversial statements, in order to do so.

5/17/2007 3:49:11 PM

so no evidence to support that?

5/17/2007 3:52:47 PM

^^ Sure he does really well for himself now... but have a look at those beginnings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Edwards#Early_life.2C_education.2C_and_family

Not that I'm necessarily the biggest fan of the guy, but he wasn't born filthy rich.

5/17/2007 3:57:11 PM

maybe people hate him because he is a fag

5/17/2007 3:57:28 PM

^^^


I hope you are asking for evidence for something other than the fact that he play class warfare.....


What are you looking for?

5/17/2007 4:07:43 PM

I love when Republicans bring up class warfare. Its so laughable.



There was also a study im having trouble finding that showed how income level of parents was a better predictor of college graduation than scores in high school.

Anyone earning less than 6 figures a year in this country is fucked right now, but mentioning that fact gets you called a class warrior. shit is absurd

5/17/2007 7:22:30 PM

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"Anyone earning less than 6 figures a year in this country is fucked right now, but mentioning that fact"

"fact" huh?

5/17/2007 7:34:34 PM

I dont have an issue with Edwards being rich.

I dont have an issue with him making lots of money through trial law or hedge funds.

But to live so extravagantly, with Howard Hughes style mansions and $400 haircuts... and then make the class disparaties of society your driving issue, and claim to be on the side of the "common folk"



I'll call it on the self-righteous republicans who cloak themselves in morality as god-fearing christians, then get embroiled in sex and/or drug scandals.

and I'm gonna call it on Edwards.

it's just fucking hypocritical.

im sure hes a really great person, and I admire a lot about him and his work, but i'll be damned if I'll vote for him.

5/17/2007 7:39:02 PM

^^^

Interesting stats....but why are they relevant? What do they have to do with the argument about Edwards?

5/17/2007 9:21:04 PM

what the hell is that second graph showing? 315% of what? que?

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"Anyone earning less than 6 figures a year in this country is fucked right now,"

yeah, so we should definitely support a candidate and party that will do everything they can to take more of it away from us and spend it on piddly ass things

5/17/2007 10:42:23 PM

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"and spend it on piddly ass things"

like blowing up brown people.

5/18/2007 1:45:05 AM

Two Americas

5/18/2007 1:52:03 AM

saw Edwards speak last night at the Democratic Party of Georgia Jefferson-Jackson dinner.

He did very very well.

I'm not saying that i have a horse in the race yet, but I wouldnt be suprised if he left the place with a few more supporters and a couple of big checks in this pocket.

going to a Hillary meet and greet tomorrow in Atlanta. interested in seeing how she plays in the Atlanta democrat crowd

5/18/2007 4:08:44 PM

Quote :

""We can't afford to have that money go to the private sector. The money has to go to the federal government because the federal government will spend that money better than the private sector will ever spend it." - Hillary Clinton on Social Security "

Listen for her to repeat this quote in her "southern" drawl.

5/18/2007 7:36:09 PM

^ did that whore really say that? why doesn't she give all her money to the gov't then? because surely the federal gov't will spend her money better than she ever could. what a fucking whore.

5/19/2007 11:41:02 PM

http://www.johnedwards.com/supportthetroopsendthewar/choose/

5/20/2007 9:56:38 AM

^^ and ^^^
its pretty obvious you have no idea how Bush's privatization would have worked, It would have done nothing more than completely destabilize the stock market. Nothing more and nothing less.

5/20/2007 3:30:58 PM

John Edwards is a slimy piece of shit who used his own son's death in a drunk driving accident in one of his closing arguments in order to play on the sympathies of a mostly female jury. (Not to mention, he claims his law school over his alma mater due to the higher popularity of his law school in the state. He never mentions NC State unless he speaks HERE.....)

This one act alone is enough to prevent me from ever even considering this pitiful excuse for a human being to be our next president. If the Democratic party refuses to steer clear of Edwards and Clinton as their nominee (in either the vp or pres. capacity), then they will seal their fate with another election loss. (also provided that the idiot neo-cons/christian fundy's running the Republican party don't simultaneously nominate another evangelical moron).

Someone needs to dig up that speech that Edwards gave at half time of the football game a few years ago..... about a minute clip of that speech on youtube as he delivered a public address when he was inebriated into oblivion would do wonders for his chances.

I fucking loathe John Edwards and I have told him as much to his face. Only a mongoloid would choose to put our country's future in this mans hands.



[Edited on May 20, 2007 at 4:00 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2007 3:57:19 PM

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"Education and WorkEducation Info Grad School: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill '77 Law College: North Carolina State University '74 Work Info Employer: Center of Poverty, Work, and Opportunity Position: Director Time Period: March 2005 – Present Location: Chapel Hill, NC Description: Fighting Poverty "

On facebook.

5/20/2007 5:11:16 PM

^

didn't he resign that post? LIAR LIAR LIAR (I know, its John Edwards, so big surprise)

I mean, its not like he has been doing any work for them lately anyway.

5/20/2007 5:18:19 PM

I'm surprised that his facebook profile (and myspace profile, come to think of it) aren't accurate...his camp's put a lot of time and energy into their internet presence, so you'd think that they'd update that information.

5/20/2007 5:31:15 PM

Maybe he’s technically a part by still giving the poverty center money, or helping out one weekend a month, or something to that effect?

I think the argument that he’s not giving us enough attention, therefore we should hate him is a bad one though. No one else makes us a stop on each of their major campaigns (or launched campaigns, like his run for VP last go around, from our school). In general he cares about education, and he has done some specific work on that in Raleigh, and he’s going to care about North Carolina more than the other candidates. So even if he’s not giving us enough personal attention to make everyone happy, he’s still giving more attention to our school and our state than any other candidate will.

5/20/2007 5:40:09 PM

rudy and newt have shown up to get their dicks sucked by art pope.

im sure a few have stopped in charlotte for fundraising while on their way to SC. But do things like have campaign events in Greensboro? no fucking way.

5/20/2007 6:19:41 PM

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"Maybe he’s technically a part by still giving the poverty center money, or helping out one weekend a month, or something to that effect?"

He isn't. He resigned his duties as director on Dec. 28, 2006. The last real linkage between the two is the new book, ""Ending Poverty in America: How to Restore the American Dream," that came out in April. I don't think it's a grand conspiracy or anything, I just think it's weird that it hasn't been updated.

5/20/2007 7:05:09 PM

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"jstpack: Only a mongoloid would choose to put our country's future in a mans hands, based solely on how much emphasis he gave to where he got his undergraduate degree"

fixed it for you, noob.

5/21/2007 12:04:29 PM

he'd be better than the she-male...

then again, a rock would be better than it...

5/21/2007 12:28:44 PM