i mean i was kinda disappointed on how lackluster i was but i definitely wasn't "pissed"...i bet the 5th one is gonna be way better cause they will realize what made this one so bad

5/30/2008 1:46:34 PM

^Just like with Star Wars Episode II, right?

^^ There are a few Indy games although they haven't released a new one in a while. The Infernal Machine was one and I can't remember the other main one. They were both pretty good though.

5/30/2008 2:01:23 PM

^ I liked Episode 2 a lot...

5/30/2008 2:04:16 PM

they're makin an Indy lego's game, like the lego's starwars ones

5/30/2008 2:22:14 PM

The lego Indiana Jones game is already made. It comes out June 6th and there's already a demo available.

5/30/2008 2:43:35 PM

I have an idea, let's split hairs!

5/30/2008 2:56:52 PM

I still have this game. It gets old after a while, but it's fun.

5/30/2008 3:03:01 PM

I had Fate of Atlantis back in the day.

5/30/2008 3:28:07 PM

George Lucas on set in a "Han Shot First" shirt.

WTF

5/30/2008 5:33:25 PM

LOL

now he's just doing shit on purpose

5/30/2008 6:58:01 PM

http://www.moviemistakes.com/film7362

5/30/2008 8:49:08 PM

One thing I noticed that I didn't see on that list was when they're showing you the flightpath they take to get to South America there is a stopover in Cuba. Wouldn't this have taken place in the middle of the Cuban revolution. You would think they would avoid landing there.

5/30/2008 9:32:41 PM

So I wonder what will happen when Lucas/Spielberg/et al die? Will there ever be a time when some of these beloved franchises are turned over to other filmmakers? I mean, there are several writers/directors that I would LOVE to get a crack at Indiana Jones and the Star Wars universe. I know these are sacred cows, but I guess I like to dream.

5/30/2008 10:38:52 PM

What is that 'Han shot first' thing referencing?

Quote :

"Factual error: When they sail down the river (in northwest Brazil) and fall down the third waterfall, it's footage from the Iguazu waterfalls, which is located on the border of Brazil and Argentina. That part of the waterfall is called the Devil's Throat, which, as I see it, is impossible to survive. But, it's Indy."

Yeah, they definitely landed on a bunch of rocks. I remember that part.

[Edited on May 31, 2008 at 11:44 AM. Reason : lk]

5/31/2008 11:40:29 AM

Quote :

"In the original version, Solo shoots Greedo under the table after uttering the line "Yes, I'll bet you have." In the 1997 Special Edition version, Greedo shoots at Solo from point blank range and misses. Han shoots him in retaliation afterwards. Thus, the phrase "Han shot first" is a retort to director George Lucas' explicit assertion that "Greedo shot first." In the original release of Star Wars, only one shot was fired, and it was fired by Han Solo."

5/31/2008 11:48:19 AM

^lol

Quote :

"Plot hole: We are told in the film that the Conquistadors stole the skull. However, since Indiana has to use the skull to open the tomb that it came from, it would have been impossible for the Conquistadors to have opened the tomb to steal it in the first place."

5/31/2008 12:03:13 PM

The Greedo shot in ANH:SE broke my heart.

5/31/2008 12:52:58 PM

What are you, Padme now?

5/31/2008 1:00:16 PM

I enjoyed the movie. I went in expecting over the top stuff and slapstickish humor, and I got it. It was fun, exciting, and very much Indiana Jonish. Really enjoyed Shia's contribution. I am all up for another if they do it.


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5/31/2008 6:13:56 PM

Just saw it.
At first, I was annoyed with the whole vintage film look...but i got used to it.

I have a few plot questions though since it was kind of hard to follow.

How did the crystal skull get missing from the alien temple in the first place?
I'm assuming the conquistador guy found it, then hid it?
Then somehow, that oxley guy found the burial ground and found the skull there?

I didn't really get the point of how it got missing or what kind of "power" it gave you....
The woman turned to fire and said she wanted to know everything?

6/1/2008 5:43:33 PM

Vintage film look?

As for your other questions, they're all related to the fact that this script is a fucking shitshow.

6/1/2008 5:55:55 PM

^^She wanted all the knowledge in the universe. When given to her, her head couldnt handle it, thus explosions ensue.

As for how the skull was actually stolen, that looks like a valid plot hole

6/1/2008 6:38:49 PM

also, isn't Indy immortal since he drank from the grail?

6/1/2008 6:45:57 PM

once you pass the threshold (the seal on the floor) in that temple they were in, the effects of the grail wear off

6/1/2008 6:49:28 PM

goddamn dollar store grail

6/1/2008 8:21:43 PM

Ford sounds like he's speaking after inhaling helium in some of the clips I've seen. Did his voice change, did they alter it, or was his voice normal (meaning the clips I saw had poor audio). Everyone else's voice sounded normal though.

6/1/2008 8:46:44 PM

yeah if this temple was so well hidden and well educated archaeologists had to put in the extra effort to find the place; how did a bunch of dumb meat-head gold plundering conquistadors randomly stumble upon it.

6/1/2008 10:34:44 PM

by running from ants...

6/1/2008 10:54:13 PM

They said, "Bitch! I'll cut your fucking tits off if you don't show me where your mother fuckin' treasure is. Don't play with my emotions!"

6/1/2008 11:05:04 PM

They did a pretty good job of making harrison ford not look ancient in this. and he still moves really well for being like 60-some.

6/2/2008 9:16:32 AM

yeah most guys in their sixties can barely crawl, let alone walk.

6/3/2008 5:14:46 AM

I just think everyone is being over-critical with this movie

6/3/2008 10:45:57 AM

Ehh it's Indiana Jones....we have been waiting since 1989 for this. It was supposed to be the top movie in the year 2008 and it's not. It is a complete disappointment. How are we being too critical?

6/3/2008 12:17:47 PM

watched temple of doom the other night. 'twas better than i remembered.

short round is my hero.

6/3/2008 2:09:02 PM

^^the top movie of 2008 will be dark knight
i could have told you that 1 year ago

6/3/2008 4:08:56 PM

I've been saying that forever.

That Iron Man is the second best film of the year, behind The Dark Knight.

6/3/2008 4:23:33 PM

this movie was fun

you guys suck

6/5/2008 1:35:53 AM

yea, I really wish people would just stop whining about this movie

6/5/2008 2:49:26 AM

i would have liked it more but the whole ufo at the end thing and the scenes leading up to it were horrible.

and the love story between the raiders chick and Indy (who nobody calls indy anymore apparently) was very poorly developed. she was badass in raiders and she was pretty bland in this movie.

6/5/2008 7:39:06 AM

So the aliens helped the Mayans by teaching them agriculture, irrigation, etc. but had plans to utterly destroy the entire valley via a spaceship induced boulder hurricane when someone was kind enough to return their skull to them?

Maybe it's the Mayans fault for building their civilization on top of the ship. The aliens just forgot to check their mirrors before blasting off. Or maybe the Mayans were the ones that decapitated that one alien... or that one thirteenth of an alien...or whatever.

A decent action flick, but it doesn't really live up to the legacy of the other three films.

6/5/2008 8:03:34 AM

Quote :

"but had plans to utterly destroy the entire valley via a spaceship induced boulder hurricane when someone was kind enough to return their skull to them? "

dude...only the greedy assholes trying to gain whatever power comes from these "artifacts" to use for world domination purposes get shit on by these artifacts

have you not seen an indiana jones movie ever?

apparently the majority of this thread doesn't realize the type of stories that these movies portray and that's why they hated it

i'm not gonna pretend that george lucas has gotten really soft and cheesy in his old age...but he makes these movies the way he makes them for a reason...and in the case of the indiana jones movies, spielberg's there to make sure things don't totally go to shit (but even steven has gotten old and soft as well...)

6/5/2008 8:10:41 PM

let's consider the source material

6/5/2008 8:17:11 PM

by soft and cheesy I meant the monkeys, the vine swinging and getting hit in the crotch by plants while straddling two cars

so basically, the cgi and Mutt bugged me the most

I didn't mind the groundhog, however

and i thought the fridge flying through the desert was good fun

but i've never really enjoyed cgi effects as opposed to good ol' fashioned live action stunts and camera trickery

also, the color of the movie seem a bit manufactured (kind of like the green-ness of the matrix)...if that makes sense--not really a complaint, more of an observation/comparison to previous movies

6/5/2008 8:30:00 PM

^^^I guess I saw a different movie. The version I saw had Indy and crew descend into an underground spaceship. When the alien(s) were done frying that chicks brain they hit the go button which ripped their ship out of the ground and destroyed the valley their ship was buried in, then it was flooded.

There were all kinds of pyramids in the valley, complete with Mayans and all. Granted several Mayans were killed by the Russians, but probably only a small fraction compared to what happened afterward.

I guess the Mayans that were living in the land of the lost were also greedy and trying to get the power inside that underground spaceship they probably didn't even know was there. Collateral damage I guess.

[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 8:40 PM. Reason : -]

6/5/2008 8:38:21 PM

the aliens weren't violent

the russians instigated the violence when they only wanted to take advantage of the alien knowledge and powers

when the aliens realized that people weren't playing nice anymore they got the hell out of dodge and basically said "fuck you" to earth

the mayans in and around the temple were worshipping and protecting the temple...

seriously...this is a theme in all the indiana jones movies

the ark destroys the nazis who want to use its power to win the war

the grail (well, the wrong grail) destroys the dude who wants to live forever

the aliens destroy the commies who want to use their power to take over the world

Temple of doom doesn't fit the formula and thats why no one likes it as much--in that one the bad dude uses the power of the stones to take over the world, but Indy kills them all himself and returns the stones to the village where they belong...

and basically, starting with Temple and Raiders, Indy evolves from treasure hunter to archaeologist. he comes to understand and respect the powers of the stones and of the ark when he sees how much damage they can do to those who want to abuse their powers for personal gain. he's indifferent to the grail and the skulls in Crusade and Kingdom and only goes on the adventure to find his dad and friend. when confronted with the grail and the skulls he becomes wildly obssessed, but only briefly until he realizes that they're forces that are better left alone.

its like the simplest good vs evil story ever, just with very intruiging and fantastical plot devices

This movie was no different

6/5/2008 9:22:51 PM

why did the aliens come in the first place?
and why were they just hanging out until someone returned a skull?

just doesn't make sense. the alien thing was only in the last 15 minutes or so..

also, i don't like any movie where there is an annoying sidekick. that is a very common plot theme and it gets annoying. Mutt was annoying and could have been left out. I hope he doesn't become the new Indy.

6/5/2008 9:40:48 PM

that's what i was referring to when i posted that serial clip

lucas doesn't care about cohesive plots and that sort of thing anymore... at this point he's just remaking 1940s serials and not even trying to give it some sort of deeper meaning (like the joseph campbell references or akira kurosawa theology)

hell, queen amidala is essentially a mix of the buster crabbe era-flash gordon's queen azura and dale arden because you could tell he had a hard-on for them as a kid

he has plenty of money now and can engage in whatever masturbatory delights he comes up with

6/5/2008 9:52:22 PM

Quote :

"the aliens destroy the commies who want to use their power to take over the world"

And take out a lot of Mayan worshipers as collateral damage, which you seem to be ignoring. I guess we did watch different movies.

6/5/2008 9:59:54 PM

TRIPLE AGENT?

6/5/2008 10:01:26 PM

^^personally, I didn't see any mayans get wiped out

i saw a temple turn into boulders and the river wash out any evidence of any unnatural presence ever being in the area

shit, flying boulders didn't even hit Indy and the gang and they were standing in the thick of it all

the only dead mayans were killed by the russians

you have nothing to argue about

6/5/2008 10:06:14 PM