that is definitely true

but its also scary trying to get into a new sport

but the mechanics are definitely different

1/26/2010 4:50:30 PM

another damned lap of LJ

1/26/2010 6:04:08 PM

should i wait until after i start training to go get fitted for shoes (like doing the whole gait measurement stuff etc) or go before?

1/27/2010 9:59:43 AM

You could just get vibrams and call it a day.

1/27/2010 10:10:08 AM

^^no - go get fitted so that you start breaking in the shoes as you start training.

1/27/2010 10:22:11 AM

ok thanks! i wasn't sure if it was better to run first and then go or to go first.

this is scary for me!!! i'm so not a runner (yet, i suppose)! but its also exciting!

i found this place in greensboro called off n running which apparently does the gait stuff with the treadmill etc so i guess i'm going to try to go there. seems sort of like a fleet feet (per the website anyway). the TNT kickoff is this saturday and training starts the following weekend!

all of my runner friends said that i'll be fine since the 1/2 i want to do isn't until june. i'm just still nervous!

1/27/2010 10:36:36 AM

Quote :

"another damned lap of LJ"

Look nobody likes whiners Besides why are you complaining again?

1/27/2010 10:42:56 AM

haha

no complaints here

1/27/2010 11:35:27 AM

I ran with my racing flats yesterday. I had to get accustomed to land and take off from the midsole to ball area of my feet. Today my legs are sore as shit. Maybe I'll revisit that thread on barefoot racing.

1/28/2010 12:20:10 PM

bttt

3/9/2010 4:59:46 PM

got a Forerunner 305. its neat to see exactly where you went. Trying to decide if I should do a marathon this year, I think I will. Little hesitant because I am starting a new job, but I should have time to train.

I only ran 3.14 miles in exactly 26mins and felt like I had no energy. I know I am restless about the near future, again how this new job is going to go. Plus it is 'early' in the 'season' and I am fat as hell right now. 140lbs where at the end of the 'season' last year I weighed 133lbs. Got to get rid of that extra weight.

Anybody want to run at ANYTIME this week at Umstead or Lake Crabtree/Dynasty/Black Creek Greenway or perhaps Lake Johnson??

3/9/2010 6:36:00 PM

Anyone doing the Great Human Race this Saturday? I'll see you there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECoA2RMDm6k

You can see me at 2:35 warming up (I'm in the white shirt left and down from the S in the START sign) and running behind the bull at 3:20.

3/25/2010 12:37:05 PM

http://www.onthemarksports.com/results/2010/HUMANOA.HTM

I finished in 23:30. 46th overall and 9th in my age group.

3/28/2010 7:54:41 PM

congrats!

3/28/2010 8:17:41 PM

It's hilarious the disparity between the top finishers and the next batch.

It would have been fairly easy for me to make it into the top 25, but the top ten? Probably not. And the top 5? Never.

3/29/2010 10:29:44 AM

I noticed that too when I ran the myrtle beach 5k last month. After the race, I told myself that if I worked hard, I could probably break the 20min barrier (I ran 20:42), but there is no way I could get to 15-17 min like some of these people.

3/29/2010 11:06:53 AM

Yeah, to get that fast you have to be very light and train very hard. Obviously genetics also come into play. I'm ~190lbs., and I doubt I will ever see a sub 20 minute 5k. I'm sure if I worked very hard I could do it, but I don't have the discipline for that.

3/29/2010 11:54:22 AM

Of course, all that speak about genetics goes out the window as soon as you have a pack of wild dogs chasing you... or maybe someone with a handgun.

3/29/2010 12:15:05 PM

Who is doing the Cary Road Race next week?

4/2/2010 2:38:47 PM

what is the distance(s)???
and cost?

4/3/2010 1:24:26 PM

I have a question for all you runners. I started running seriously back in January. I am now up to running 5-6 miles about three times a week. I have always been an active person playing basketball and football and weightlifting my entire life, but never distance running. Every now and then I get some serious cramps in the front of my shins. It used to happen a lot when I first began running and now it occasionally happens. It is not shin splints, but cramping to where it hurts badly to move my foot up and down. Is this due to bad running form, improper shoes, muscle problems? I also get pain in my hip joints every now and then. I have never gone to have my feet looked at or bought an nice pair of running shoes. Could that be the problem?

4/4/2010 8:39:22 PM

It's hard to tell without actually see you run, but I would definitely recommend getting a good pair of shoes if you are gonna be running 5-6 miles at a time. Fleet feet does the gait analysis to help find the right pair.

4/5/2010 10:44:09 AM

^^^ 5k

I don't remember, probably like $20-30 on race day

4/5/2010 10:46:13 AM

http://www.nogrunclub.com/content/first-monday-trivia-2

running with the nog club for the first time tonight

4/5/2010 10:46:41 AM

time to start training for the army ten miler in october

4/5/2010 10:52:29 AM

Anyone know of a good running store in wilmington where I could have my feet looked at and a good pair of shoes recommended? Thanks

4/5/2010 1:54:03 PM

TRYSPORTS
925 Town Center Dr.
Wilmington, NC 28405 Map
910-256-2395
http://www.trysports.com

There's one in Charlotte that I go to as well.

4/5/2010 2:23:00 PM

ok i was going to do TIT this spring but with 18 hours of school, last semester of law school, and having the 1/2 marathon i wanted to run be in cali during the time i'm supposed to be studying for the bar....it ended up being too much

HOWEVER

their summer session starts soon AND one of the events to train for is in sept in VA beach. the 1/2 rock n' roll. so i feel like this is a lot more doable. so i think i'm ACTUALLY going to do it this time. the meetings are later this month. i guess i'd be doing the training in raleigh though since i'm moving back home after graduation.

the nation's triathlon seems like an awesome event but....i should probably just start with a 1/2 marathon first!

4/5/2010 3:07:08 PM

A 1/2 marathon is much easier to train for because you don't have to incorporate all the swimming and cycling. All you need to train for a 1/2 marathon is a pair of shoes and some time.

Look up Hal Higdon's training program.

4/5/2010 3:09:17 PM

^ exactly. although i'm a MUCH better swimmer than i am a runner, which is the appeal of the triathlon. but in most triathlons the swimming part is nothing compared to the biking and running. i'd rather swim 10 miles instead of 2

but yea i think you are def right...running a 1/2 is definitely easier to train for. maybe after i do a couple of 1/2s i can try out a triathlon. do they have swimming + biking biathlons? because i think i'd like that much better.

4/5/2010 3:14:19 PM

Honestly I've never seen a Swimming + Biking event, although they probably exist.

Duathlons usually consist of a run, bike, run format.

4/5/2010 3:15:39 PM

how often should one run a 1/2 marathon. i mean to prevent overuse injuries. should you do like 2x a year or is it safer to do more? how long should you wait in between each one? what is a good time for a first time? i'm thinking of doing (with LLS) the VA beach rock n roll marathon (1/2) which is in sept OR i might just wait until nov and do the raleigh city of oaks 1/2 (cause i think that is like mostly really flat and i wouldn't have to travel).

[Edited on April 5, 2010 at 6:50 PM. Reason : .]

4/5/2010 6:49:11 PM

I'm no sports physician, but provided that you build up to it slowly, most people who can successfully complete a 1/2 marathon should not be at risk of overuse from doing them practically as often as you like. Listen to your own body as your guide about how much recovery you need, but as long as you're eating well to replace things, you should be able to do one every weekend if you wanted to.

4/5/2010 7:22:23 PM

^^ Marathoners actually have much healthier knees than those who do little physical activity. Contrary to popular belief, repeated use does not "wear down" the joints. In fact, it lubricates them and strengthens them. Run as many marathons as you want.

4/5/2010 9:35:38 PM

i mean i didn't think it "wore down" the joints. but why do you learn about overuse injuries in sports med then? i thought docs recommended waiting a certain number of weeks in between races. maybe that is just for triathlons.

4/5/2010 10:05:18 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Fathers-Odyssey-75-Marathons-Days/dp/1935098136/



Overuse injuries are injuries from not being strong enough, or doing certain action sports that put incredible amounts of stress on joints (tennis elbow, for example).

Look, if you go out tomorrow and run 26.2 miles, you'll probably injure yourself. If you train properly and then run 26.2 miles with no injury, I guarantee you could do it again next week with no problem.

4/5/2010 10:19:03 PM

kadwhackle, i did my first half marathon in jan last year. i started training around oct. i did my 2nd half marathon in july and my last one in nov (all in 2009)

they were all totally different but they did become easier to get through mentally. looking back i think the first one was the easiest because i didnt know what to expect. the second was so painful i was in tears at the end (my own fault) and the last one was in between the first two.

as stated, listen to your body and know that its ok to walk! adrenaline will also take you through a good portion, it did for me anyway

4/5/2010 10:30:03 PM

^^ you're talking about people on a whole different level than any recreational runner or even people who train regularly and do regular weekend races.

For the normal person, who can't devote half of their lives training, there is most certainly a limit to the number of marathons and long races a year, without getting injured. Even full time runners limits their marathons to 2-4 a year because racing takes a lot out of you. There is a huge difference between racing a half or full marathon, and simply "running 13 or 26 miles". (there is also a huge difference between running half and full marathons)

Wolfy is mostly correct - build up slowly, give yourself plenty of time for your first race. Give yourself plenty of recovery after the first (easily go for 8-10 weeks after your first before even thinking of attempting another). Even once you get comfortable doing halves, there's no reason to do more than one every 6-8 weeks through the summer.

4/5/2010 11:19:57 PM

^, ^^ thanks for the advice!!

i'm going to my TNT meeting on the 4th of May. pretty excited to train this summer. plus it will give me an outlet while i'm studying for the bar and living at home with my dad (yikes).

still unsure about which 1/2 to sign up for - sept or nov. i don't think doing 2 so close together would be wise for me (or anyone) so we will see which one i go for. excitement and scurred.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 12:00 AM. Reason : .]

4/5/2010 11:57:56 PM

go for the one that is closer to home. there will be less $ spent and less pressure on you to make yourself like it if you end up not liking it, lol

4/6/2010 12:05:10 AM

Listen to jack daniels. He gives good advice to people at all levels. Don't listen to douchebags on the internet who don't follow their own device.

Daniels' advice is to do no more than 80 miles per week for casual marathoners and even competitive athletes (although athletes commonly get up to 160+). But anyway, those high mileages are by people with physiological advantages.

4/6/2010 1:05:15 AM

your numbers are very exaggerated. even "casual" marathoners will not approach 80/week, except maybe for a week or two during a big base period. Most casual marathoners can do fine building up to 50-70 miles/week during their base periods.

and there is nothing "common" about 160 miles/week. Anything over 140-150 is reserved for the world elites or ultra-marathoners. You would never see the best NCAA runners go over 110-120 during peak summer weeks.

4/6/2010 1:35:42 AM

^^ True, but 80 miles per week is a LOT for most people.

4/6/2010 8:31:34 AM

I'm lucky if I get my 20/week

4/6/2010 8:34:36 AM

Cary Road Race tomorrow. Who am I going to see there?

4/9/2010 9:46:34 AM

Anyone doing the Tarheel 10-miler tomorrow? I'll be there wearing red!

4/9/2010 10:51:38 AM

Think this might have been posted before, but in relation to what God was saying:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/08/11/phys-ed-can-running-actually-help-your-knees/

Quote :

" But despite entrenched mythology to the contrary, runners don’t seem prone to degenerating knees. An important 2008 study, this one from Stanford University, followed middle-aged, longtime distance runners (not necessarily marathoners) for nearly 20 years, beginning in 1984, when most were in their 50s or 60s. At that time, 6.7 percent of the runners had creaky, mildly arthritic knees, while none of an age-matched control group did. After 20 years, however, the runners’ knees were healthier; only 20 percent showed arthritic changes, versus 32 percent of the control group’s knees. Barely 2 percent of the runners’ knees were severely arthritic, while almost 10 percent of the control group’s were. “We were quite surprised,” says Eliza Chakravarty, an assistant professor at the Stanford University School of Medicine and lead author of the study. “Our hypothesis going in had been that runners, because of the repetitive pounding, would develop more frequent and more severe arthritis.” Instead, recent evidence suggests that running may actually shield somewhat against arthritis, in part because the knee develops a kind of motion groove. A group of engineers and doctors at Stanford published a study in the February issue of The Journal of Bone and Joint Surgery that showed that by moving and loading your knee joint, as you do when walking or running, you “condition” your cartilage to the load. It grows accustomed to those particular movements. You can run for miles, decades, a lifetime, without harming it. But if this exquisite balance is disturbed, usually by an injury, the loading mechanisms shift, the moving parts of the knee are no longer in their accustomed alignment and a “degenerative pathway” seems to open. The cartilage, like an unbalanced tire, wears away. Pain, tissue disintegration and, eventually, arthritis can follow."

So basically if you are active and careful about it your knees will continue to get stronger. But if you damage them and continue to be active on them before healing that's when the trouble begins.

[Edited on April 12, 2010 at 12:15 PM. Reason : s]

4/12/2010 12:15:07 PM

anyone try runkeeper app on iphone?

4/12/2010 12:28:40 PM

Does anyone here do much off road or trail running? For some reason trail running motivates me so much more and keeps me running harder/ longer. The only trails I know of around the NCSU area are in the Lake Johnson area though. Could anyone tell me of some other places to go? They don't have to be near campus, just within a decent drive of Raleigh. Thanks

4/12/2010 6:42:39 PM

^
umstead
falls lake

4/12/2010 10:29:23 PM