hopefully the selection committee will look at marquee wins and SOS

3/2/2008 1:00:36 PM

and i hope they're one of the schools on selection sunday that CBS sets up at

3/2/2008 1:02:14 PM

Quote :

"Considering ASU is ranked #70 in the RPI and NC State is #74... They aren't dancing without some serious fire at the end of the year."

hahaha wtf ever dude. you're either seriously deluded or just plain retarded, and I would have said that before they won today. They're a virtual lock for #5- no way the Pac-10 only gets 4 in this year.

3/2/2008 5:10:26 PM

Well maybe? I haven't watched an iota of college basketball this year I just look at the RPI and realize they can't be very good. It's near impossible to get in at-large if you're outside the top 50.

I believe #74 was the highest ever with New Mexico one year...

Maybe Herb has friends on the committee or something.

3/2/2008 5:18:08 PM

Nice.

Way to go Herb! from 8-22 to Dancing...

...While NCSU will not even get a spot in the NIT

3/2/2008 5:19:25 PM

What was the highest we ever got in during Herb's five year run??

I remember there being a year when we were in the low 60s or high 50s...I think.

3/2/2008 5:20:10 PM

USA Today/Espn poll (could not find the AP that far back... and could not find any data before 2001)

2001-2002 (week #19)
25. N.C. State 23-11 86

2003-2004 (week #18)
20. N.C. State 21-10 157

[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 5:35 PM. Reason : ?]

3/2/2008 5:32:19 PM

We were usually in the 30's-40's.

Quote :

"hahaha wtf ever dude. you're either seriously deluded or just plain retarded, and I would have said that before they won today. They're a virtual lock for #5- no way the Pac-10 only gets 4 in this year."

I'm not even watching the season and even I know the Pac10 landscape better than that.

UCLA, Wash St, and Stanford are already in.

Arizona is probably in (esp if they win today)

USC is on the bubble.

Ari. State is the darkhorse if they can sneak in on momentum.

3/2/2008 5:34:26 PM

Herb's best seed at State was 3rd, in which State lost in the 2nd round to Vanderbilt after having a 13 point lead with 5 minutes to go.

3/2/2008 5:35:35 PM

^^^^
65 in 2005

OSU is going to kill their rating

[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 5:38 PM. Reason : http://www.kenpom.com/sked.php?team=North%20Carolina%20St.&y=2005]

3/2/2008 5:36:40 PM

^^

Thats NCSU for you... The Heart Attack Pack....

We play well until the time it really matters... Usually the second half is when I go ahead and turn off the tv.

3/2/2008 5:41:29 PM

Quote :

"Well maybe? I haven't watched an iota of college basketball this year I just look at the RPI and realize they can't be very good. It's near impossible to get in at-large if you're outside the top 50."

That's generally true but this year is weird. I've seen everyone say they are in with a win over Oregon State b/c of they have five REALLY STRONG quality wins and are likely going to go 9-9 in the toughest conference this year. Their RPI is in the low to mid 60s right now (State is in the mid 80s)...

And about not watching college this year... I can't believe that people would rather watch college ball when shit like this Lakers game is going on in the West this year..

[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 6:12 PM. Reason : x]

3/2/2008 6:11:34 PM

Quote :

"I can't believe that people would rather watch college ball when shit like this Lakers game is going on in the West this year.."

i'll wipe some of that sarcasm off, for you

3/3/2008 8:28:00 AM

#36 in the new poll

3/3/2008 1:57:18 PM

Wow...

when the hell did Herb get the refs in his pocket? Jesus...that's UNC and Duke absurd.

USC: FT 10/11
ASU: FT 34/39

Something strange about that.

3/3/2008 2:58:28 PM

I think the refs are really watching U$C right now- a couple players are known to play dirty (Gibson and Jefferson). I know hundreds of Bruin fans deluged every PAC 10 higher-ups email and phone after this....

http://s213.photobucket.com/albums/cc277/vidman13/?action=view¤t=SC34.flv

Bruin fans were pissed about an inbounds pass that was thrown off a Bruin's face the week before, decided to take it up with the officials. I'm guessing that Howland went to the commish and they started watching $C a little more.

[Edited on March 3, 2008 at 4:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2008 4:07:10 PM

Quote :

"Thats NCSU for you... The Heart Attack Pack...."

GTFO

3/3/2008 4:14:23 PM

^^^ nah, it was just that the Sun Devils took the ball to the basket while USC settled for jumpers. Harden, Pendergraph and Shipp got fouled hard several times within 5 feet of the basket

look at the rest of the the FT numbers for the other PAC10 games ASU has played. trust me, he doesn't get calls

3/3/2008 10:51:38 PM

http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/41991

Quote :

"Two days after his team was called for a season-high 29 fouls during a loss against Arizona State, USC Coach Tim Floyd on Monday said he had voiced his displeasure with the game officiating to Pacific 10 Conference officials. Four Trojans players fouled out and USC was called for more than twice as many fouls as the Sun Devils, who were assessed 14 fouls during their 80-66 victory at Tempe. Arizona State shot 39 free throws to USC's 11. The Sun Devils shot 36 free throws during a second half in which they overcame a three-point deficit to build leads as large as 22 points. Arizona State scored 13 consecutive points from the foul line during one stretch."

3/4/2008 12:20:36 PM

that's like saying Duke never gets calls because they had one game where all 5 starters fouled out


did you watch the USC game or are you just reporting on what you've read?

3/4/2008 3:29:24 PM

I watched it and saw 2 technical fouls, 1 intentional, and at least 4 with 2:00 left. TKE is right as well, ASU was driving to the basket while U$C was throwing up 3's.

3/4/2008 4:19:29 PM

We (NCSU) drove inside and Duke shot 3s and yet they easily outshot us at the line.

But we play in the ACC where the powers in blue get everything.

3/5/2008 2:15:45 AM

Herb was named a finalist for the U.S. Basketball Writers Association Coach of the Year

the others are: Rick Barnes (Texas); Keno Davis (Drake); John Calipari (Memphis); Mike Krzyzewski (Duke); Lon Kruger (UNLV); Sean Miller (Xavier); Matt Painter (Purdue); Bruce Pearl (Tennessee); Rick Pitino (Louisville); Bo Ryan (Wisconsin); Kevin Stallings (Vanderbilt).

http://www.sportswriters.net/usbwa/news/2008/awards080305.html

3/5/2008 3:29:26 PM

you know its HARD out here for a coach (i am the man)

3/5/2008 3:38:39 PM

I'd like to see him get PAC 10 COY at least. I'm surprised he was picked and Trent Johnson from the Trees was left out of the National running....

3/5/2008 3:53:11 PM

yeah, a little surprising

but i'll take it!


no television for the Oregon game tomorrow. gotta watch it on ESPN360

3/5/2008 4:00:22 PM

remember when he was the acc coy at nc state? the school he coached for 10 years and got as far as the sweet sixteen just once?

yeah, he's pretty much the best coach ever.


oh and by the way, roffle

Quote :

"Style of Play Sendek's teams have come to be characterized by tenacious man-to-man defense, and methodical offense. His style of offense incorporates many Princeton principles into a modified motion offense, and is often characterized by a center posting up at the top of the key, many handoffs and lateral screens, as well as numerous backdoor cuts. Herb's teams often rely on the three point shot to set up the backdoor play, which has at times resulted in long scoring droughts on poor shooting nights. Herb is a methodical coach and demands the same from his players. Currently at ASU Sendek has been using a modified 3-2 zone defense."

have you been editing herb's wikipedia, tke?

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 4:11 PM. Reason : lawl.]

3/5/2008 4:09:06 PM

look at it again.

Quote :

"[edit] Style of Play Sendek's teams have come to be characterized by tenacious man-to-man defense, and methodical offense. His style of offense incorporates many Princeton principles into a modified motion offense, and is often characterized by a center posting up at the top of the key, many handoffs and lateral screens, as well as numerous backdoor cuts. If all else fails, the center jacks up a three with everybody else standing hopelessly outside while the other team gets the rebound. Herb's teams often rely on the three point shot to set up the backdoor play, which has at times resulted in long scoring droughts on poor shooting nights. One time his NC State team only scored 10 points in the first half versus a Big East cellar dwellar (Saint John's) and on another occasion he let Seton Hall come into the RBC center and beat the hell out of the Wolfpack. Herb is a "methodical" coach and demands the same from his players. By "methodical", I mean "uses a system in college basketball that will never win championships." Currently at ASU Sendek has been using a modified 3-2 zone defense. "

3/5/2008 4:23:04 PM

Coach in top 12 >>>>>>>>>Coach in bottom 12

3/5/2008 4:23:34 PM

^^^ i blame that on 3 people:

Matt Freije
Alando Tucker
Richard Midgley

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 4:27 PM. Reason : m]

3/5/2008 4:27:09 PM

dont forget Caron Butler

3/5/2008 4:35:06 PM

nah, i blame that one on the refs

3/5/2008 4:39:10 PM

Hodge did foul him

I just thought you were naming all the players who seemed to singlehandedly knock us out of the tourney during Herb's tenure at State*





*State refers to North Carolina State University, not Arizona State University

3/5/2008 4:41:40 PM

Gerald Wilkins singlehandedly knocked State out of contention one year

3/5/2008 4:43:49 PM

what about PJ Tucker?

3/5/2008 4:43:56 PM

should have recruited that motherfucker

3/5/2008 4:44:41 PM

Tucker and Lamarcus Aldridge beat the ever loving shit out of us

3/5/2008 4:46:24 PM

I miss that.

3/5/2008 4:47:03 PM

Herb already knew he was leaving Raleigh, so he wanted Barnes to look red hot when Fowler came a'knockin

3/5/2008 4:47:36 PM

It makes sense.

3/5/2008 4:48:32 PM

Know what else I miss? That one time we played UNC at home Herb's last year here and I remember specifically one play where our offense was so out of whack we had Cedric Simmons trying to bury threes because we were desperate from a whole game's worth of ass whooping.

3/5/2008 4:49:43 PM

lemme do some quick research of that game....

3/5/2008 4:51:20 PM

^^wat

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=260530152

Simmons put up one three and made it lol

and he made it to put State up 18-14 lol

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/playbyplay?gameId=260530152

[Edited on March 5, 2008 at 5:03 PM. Reason : ,]

3/5/2008 5:00:56 PM

Herb HAD to leave State

his players were getting sexually distracted too often

3/5/2008 5:04:46 PM

Quote :

"63-51 Cedric Simmons missed Two Point Jumper. "

it was that. his foot was apparently on the line. but it was way out there. aka our center's sweet spot.

3/5/2008 5:06:17 PM

I cannot think of Jordan Collins without at least cracking a smile

He was truly the man

3/5/2008 5:07:29 PM

3/5/2008 5:12:35 PM

Why yes

I'd prefer being last in the conference to coming in top 4 any day of the week.

3/5/2008 5:43:41 PM

when you make one sweet sixteen in 10 years, does it really matter?

3/5/2008 9:14:58 PM

fuck

3/6/2008 11:53:10 PM