lol it would be hilarious(to me) if he were like mlk street

10/3/2008 12:05:20 AM

NEWS FLASH!

86% OF FOX NEWS VIEWERS THINK PALIN WON!

10/3/2008 12:07:14 AM

CNN poll.

Did Biden do better or worse than expected?

64%, Better
14%, Worse
20%, Same

Did Palin do better or worse than expected?

84%, Better
7%, Worse
8%, Same

10/3/2008 12:07:20 AM

yeah, i'm tired of hearing:

hope, change, main street/wall street, maverick, hockey mom, reformer


but i seriously lost it when she said "a team of mavericks".

10/3/2008 12:07:24 AM

The original "team of Mavericks"

10/3/2008 12:09:08 AM

ahhhhhhh...reformer...thats the word i was trying to think that she always uses...thanks wilso...was on the cat tonight trying to think of the 3rd thing she always says..."maverick", "reformer", and "energy independence"

10/3/2008 12:09:24 AM

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""CBS News Poll: Biden Won 46-21 CBS NEWS/KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS POLL (Uncommitted Voters who watched the debate) 46% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Joe Biden was the winner. 21% thought Sarah Palin won, 33% thought it was a draw… 98% after the debate saw [Biden] as knowledgeable (79% before the debate)"

Earth, are you saying CBS is biased, or the uncommitted voters are biased?

10/3/2008 12:12:03 AM

Biden was very good at making up shit on the fly.

Too bad Palin didn't realize it was bullshit and call him out on it.

10/3/2008 12:13:33 AM

btw...of course drudge report is gonna say palin won...no shocker there...thats like saying the media has a liberal bias

10/3/2008 12:13:55 AM

Doesnt matter, very few voters read the fucking drudge report lol.

this matters. it did in the first debates.

Among uncommitted voters who watched the debate:

CBS poll: Biden 46%, Palin 21%, tie 33%.

CNN poll: Biden 51%, Palin 36%.

Case closed. Less than 5% are undecided, so you read between the lines.

10/3/2008 12:19:40 AM

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"Case closed"

plols

10/3/2008 12:23:46 AM

She improved but she lacks substance and red meat conservative mettle. The cutsey act is wrong for such serious times. Biden is an oil slick of liberal talking points and we need a serious, principled conservative to answer his ilk in Congress, not another aspiring member of the big tent. Shape up, McCain/Palin. We're in ground zero.

10/3/2008 12:28:34 AM

^McCain/Palin seem to be the Kerry/Edwards of this election...

10/3/2008 12:29:30 AM

I'm wondering if everyone say the same debate because while saying Palin won might be too much...the very least that happened for her was "tie" with Biden...I honestly don't see how anyone could say Biden dominated.

10/3/2008 12:30:43 AM

i dont see how anybody can say anybody definitively won either tonight's VP debate or the first Presidential debate unless you're a complete partisan douchebag...nobody has hit anything out of the park yet...its been all about not fucking up

10/3/2008 12:31:59 AM

Of course you'd say that. Palin didn't answer anything -- she spun off into some barely relevant, preprogrammed speech at practically every question. If she was pushed to answer a single thing she would have folded.

10/3/2008 12:33:35 AM

10/3/2008 12:33:55 AM

Quote :

"unless you're a complete partisan douchebag"

10/3/2008 12:34:10 AM

lol the funniest part was when palin was like saying she was glad they both had a love for israel

10/3/2008 12:35:02 AM

it was funnier when biden kept saying "I love John McCain"

10/3/2008 12:35:29 AM

The funniest part was when Palin said "McCain is the man to leave" (when she meant "lead")

10/3/2008 12:36:42 AM

yeah i caught that too

10/3/2008 12:37:05 AM

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"I honestly don't see how anyone could say Biden dominated."

I'd say that Biden dominated simply because of the complete lack of substance (or, for that matter, coherent formation of sentences) that was coming from Palin.

He answered most of the questions that were asked and made points. I'm not saying I liked or agreed with many of his answers/points, but he actually gave them.

I saw Palin actually answer two or three questions, if even that much... maybe I'm just bad at translating the word soup that comes out of her mouth, but when you can barely even form complete sentences, you are not debating well. She would speak, and I would think about what she said, and I would be left wondering what she even meant or if her words even had a meaning.

I would say that Biden dominated simply because .01 is infinitely superior to 0.

10/3/2008 12:37:15 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6giBlYL_qQ

Rove calling Biden out for lying

10/3/2008 12:38:43 AM

Rove is the biggest piece of shit ever. You think he has any credibility here or anywhere outside of the right wing tank?

10/3/2008 12:40:22 AM

i think biden was off on the whole "in 3 weeks, we spend as much in iraq as we have in 6.5 years in afghanistan"...maybe he meant 3 months or something but if its like 10billion a month in iraq, than 3 weeks is like around 7.5 billion, and i'm guessing we've spent more than that much in 6.5 YEARS in afghanistan...

10/3/2008 12:40:47 AM

show me Rove is incorrect in what he just said kainen. Prove it.

he might be a piece of shit, but PROVE he is wrong.

10/3/2008 12:43:36 AM

prove he's right

10/3/2008 12:46:55 AM

video is no longer available

10/3/2008 12:47:11 AM

Article 1 of the Constitution isn't about the legislative branch...that doesn't really need proving, does it?

10/3/2008 12:49:04 AM

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"Article 1 of the Constitution isn't about the legislative branch...that doesn't really need proving, does it?"

is that a fucking joke?


[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2008 12:50:15 AM

lol...what? im not going to do the work to do that. are you nuts?

hell dude, I didnt listen to what that vile piece of shit even said. He has no credability in my eyes and i think he's a pretty fucking evil, intolerable, sleazy ass politician. The vile and shit that man has spewed is unbelievable so why would I ever feel the need to defend his charges much less even give him two seconds of my time?

F that, you can keep your Rove to yourself bub

10/3/2008 12:50:35 AM

um, i'm pretty sure article 1 is about the legislative branch

[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 12:51 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2008 12:50:44 AM

but Biden said it was about the Executive Branch!

10/3/2008 12:51:31 AM

Rove can be a piece of shit and still be right about something... they're not mutually exclusive.

10/3/2008 12:51:48 AM

article 1 of the constitution lays out the ONE responsibility of the VICE PRESIDENT

10/3/2008 12:52:42 AM

and I was responding to your quote not Biden's, you dumbass

[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 12:53 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2008 12:52:44 AM

i was referencing the video in question and biden's gaffe, dumbass (biden's gaffe...sounds familiar)

10/3/2008 12:53:36 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENqhJeoT8jM

at the 7:10 mark. Unbelievable


Kainen

Quote :

" im not going to do the work to do that. are you nuts? "

Ah, the liberal motto.

Im suggesting that if you attack ones message and dont even listen to it, then you lose credibility. You made an attack, I ask you what he said that was wrong.

10/3/2008 12:53:46 AM

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"Im suggesting that if you attack ones message and dont even listen to it, then you lose credibility"

ITS FUCKING KARL ROVE DUDE.

My god are you dense? What about that do you not understand. I don't take anything that man says in anything other than disgust and disdain. He's a piece of shit and wart on this country.

10/3/2008 12:55:18 AM

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"86% OF FOX NEWS VIEWERS THINK PALIN WON! "

Well, Rove was right (and me too) when he said considering peoples' expectation of Palin, she DID win.

She was predictably vapid in her responses, similarly to Biden, but she wasn't the bumbling fool she has been portrayed as. I do think Obama's poll numbers are going to slow in their rise, if not drop a little (I don't think McCain will regain the lead though), because it's going to take a bit for the Palin doubters to backpedal on their portrayal of her, which they'll have to do.

I think most undecided people will come away having a more positive perception of Palin, which helps McCAin.

BTW, Rove is a complete douchebag, and is extremely corrupt, but he always seems to have a huge wealth of political knowledge, and knows how to work the media.

[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 12:56 AM. Reason : ]

10/3/2008 12:55:24 AM

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"He's a piece of shit and wart on this country."

but he knows more about the constitution than joe biden

10/3/2008 12:55:55 AM

and general mcclellan

10/3/2008 12:56:52 AM

It was great to see how McCain's camp, through Palin's inaction, is owning the Spain mistake as intentional. Rather than admit that McCain doesn't know the leader of Spain's name, he'd rather pretend and stick to the idea that he won't meet with this NATO ally.

10/3/2008 12:57:29 AM

He knows more about taking a shit on it. The fact that you rally to Karl Rove here says everything anyone would need to know about giving your opinion anything beyond a laugh.

10/3/2008 12:57:29 AM

kainen you didnt watch the video so you clearly dont even know what you're trying to argue against...just give it up

10/3/2008 12:57:58 AM

^^^ I think they scored big points though when Palin said McCain never asked her to check her beliefs at the door, and she was free to disagree about ANWAR.

[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 12:58 AM. Reason : ]

10/3/2008 12:58:13 AM

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"The fact that you rally to Karl Rove here says everything anyone would need to know about giving your opinion anything beyond a laugh. "

NO one is rallying around Karl Rove, just pointing out where Biden lied during the debate, as Rove points out. However, its clear by this trantrum that you arent remotely concerned with the truth or interested in being the least bit objective .So continue with your insults and acting like a child. Im going to bed.

[Edited on October 3, 2008 at 1:02 AM. Reason : .]

10/3/2008 1:02:22 AM

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"Earth, are you saying CBS is biased,"

Sup, Perky Katie Couric and her network are incredibly biased. Could be a reason why her ratings are so bad.

Hammering Obama on taxes warmed my heart. She should've pointed out that he voted for the 2009 democratic tax package that would've raised taxes on individuals earning as little as $31,850 a year and $63,000 for married couples. She could have explained (as long as Biden wanted to dredge up the past) how a past democrat nominee promised middle class tax cuts only to shove through a huge tax increase on everyone once he and a democratic majority got into office.

10/3/2008 1:03:17 AM

rove said it so it's true. i won't bother to research biden's or rove's "facts"

10/3/2008 1:03:47 AM