OK, lets get this thread back on track. Yeah I do agree that the unlock, and Rank progression system is not so great. In BC1, it was much better, as you had an incentive to Rank up. Of course we all know that you pretty much have everything unlocked by Rank 25, with an excess of 25 Ranks to go, and there is no incentive, not even an achievement for reaching Rank 50. At least they migh have free add-ons like they did in BC1, which is always a plus.

4/6/2010 12:42:19 PM

BlackDog's stats: http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/ZoSo

compare to say, mine (and I'm no where near the best player even in my company, i'm second tier from best to worst 2:2:3:2:1): http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Jack%20Forge

4/6/2010 1:07:15 PM

Here's mine.

http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/360/Axelay%20MkIV

4/6/2010 1:11:05 PM

not bad, comparable spm and other stats

http://bfbcs.com/stats_360/Axelay%20MkIV

http://www.totalgamingnetwork.com/21cw.php - anyone want to join up? it's free (pc only i think)

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 1:49 PM. Reason : s]

4/6/2010 1:30:32 PM

why are my stats special?

4/6/2010 1:51:03 PM

they're not

4/6/2010 1:58:27 PM

http://bfbc2.statsverse.com/stats/360/daBEANnHCL

Mine...I havent played in a while though...may get into it this weekend

4/6/2010 2:00:32 PM

I spend a lot of my time flying the helicopters, it's not that big a point maker for the pilot (is for the gunner) but I just enjoy flying them.

4/6/2010 2:01:49 PM

here are my stats http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/GoalieLax

my score per minute, skill level and K/D ratio took a bad hit when I was working on bronzing all weapons. charging around with a red dot on a semi-auto sniper rifle works, but takes a while to get used to...and by then you've pretty much got the 25 kills.

right now i'm intent on getting my 100 mine kills and platinum in the knife (just two more ranks), so again my scores and whatnot are taking a hit as I risk more than usual.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 2:22 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 2:06:43 PM

lol goalie i know your skills the all weapon bronzes are messed up (m1 does not record stats) still waiting on a patch for that (obviously affects the all bronzes insig as well)

mines are soooo much fun on some maps, you can lay them and watch tanks go boom or lay them then shoot them and watch everything around them go boom (they do daisy chain)

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 3:21 PM. Reason : s]

4/6/2010 3:20:31 PM

I love using mines on maps like laguna presa and laguna alta - one exit from the main for vehicles, one or 2 routes where they go from their main 99% of the time. i just lay a triangle of mines in the water or behind a slight ridge and wait for the kills. there is nothing better than having the other team scared as shit to even use a vehicle (also works in squad DM where there is one vehicle. don't need to use it as much as deny its use to others).

on bigger maps like atacama desert where there is often someone on the other team who wants to try and steal a tank from your main, i'll lay them down there when I'm gunning in a helo. that way i help protect our backside and have the repair tool to heal the helo when we take damage.

i wish they would fix that M1 shit. I must have gotten 50 kills with it before I realized it was borked. but looking at other stats from people I've knifed, i think you can get stars in the repair tool for kills. I have a handful of them so next time I'm going to aim for some more of those kills.

i've been thinking of 21CW - just not sure if I can really put the time in right now to be at the level I was for Napalm Dawn and FFTF

4/6/2010 8:15:07 PM

Motherfucking what the god damn hell is with these people and the UAV controls. They are backwards from what you set as a pilot.

up is down, down is up, mouse 1 is bound to blow the fuck up.

4/6/2010 8:16:16 PM

In case you were wondering, yes. 40mm grenades are for faggots

4/6/2010 8:29:52 PM

medics w/ M60's are faggots, that is a heavy class gun, not a medic.

4/6/2010 8:51:41 PM

40mm grenades have their place. what's retarded is seeing a rank 8 guy who has like 6 gold stars in the thing. those guys are faggots. the same ones you laugh at who fire one at you when you're closer than minimum armament distance the 40mm is great for removing cover and letting you know if you did some damage to a dude behind said cover...like in all the buildings on white pass. I make it my mission to give nowhere for people to hide in the cap radius.

the M60 isn't really that overpowered compared to other LMG's. I was using it a lot to try and get a 2nd platinum just because I had to most kills from normal game play progression of unlocks at the time. I much prefer the XM8 LMG for the primary reason that you don't have to use a RDS or 4x to be effective with it. it's rate of fire is so slow that you better hope you get the drop or it sucks to be you.

like i said earlier, they just need to shave a point or two of damage off and add more spread at distance. they had the exact same problem with the M60 in BF:Vietnam and they ended up nerfing it way too much. hopefully they find a happy medium. if anything they need to give the SMG's more kick in close quarter. those suckers are seriously underpowered.

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 9:10 PM. Reason : .]

4/6/2010 9:03:43 PM

Quote :

"medics w/ M60's are faggots, that is a heavy class gun, not a medic."

yes

Quote :

"what's retarded is seeing a rank 8 guy who has like 6 gold stars in the thing. those guys are faggots. "

and yes

4/6/2010 9:15:23 PM

/arab13 goalie this is why you pretty much tell them you dont have the time to be a officer... (pretty sure i'm gonna end up as a nco, which is fine by me as I don't have a lot of time for it either)

[Edited on April 6, 2010 at 9:30 PM. Reason : oops]

4/6/2010 9:29:52 PM

Anyone in a clan around here?

4/6/2010 10:09:10 PM

really, the problem is the dumbing down of classes into just four classes versus the seven we had in BF2

the fact that assault gets ammo boxes floored me at first. giving noob tubers their own resupply is totally fucked

4/6/2010 10:11:39 PM

med packs + M60 is by far the most unbalanced class

4/6/2010 10:13:25 PM

- how do i check the score after a match has ended? since if you're winning, it just randomly ends, its nice to see how much you won by

- why cant i see the team roster when i am dead?

- why cant i type to other people when i am dead?

- if i am set to spawn on a squad member, and they die immediately before i spawn on them, why does it send me back all the way to the main base?

4/6/2010 10:42:37 PM

go do a little reading on my thread on DICE/EA forums: http://forum.ea.com/eaforum/posts/list/0/433344.page#4046207

4/7/2010 12:01:02 AM

^^
-why cant you do anything to exit the game during the YOU WIN/YUO LOSE screen or the loading screen
-why cant you see the server name/ip address anywhere after you join a game
-why do friend requests not work


The answer to all these questions is that this is battlefield. Bugs and general weird ass quirks that should have been caught in beta will linger for a long long time because its motherfuckin DICE.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 12:02 AM. Reason : s]

4/7/2010 12:02:09 AM

is there any way to actually see my health level? or do i need to ask a medic to please tell me if i am healthy or not?

4/7/2010 12:40:46 AM

if you have been hit you need health even after it recharges.

also how do i get my stats on that site, it isnt coming up with anything on my gamertag

Bladerunner13

4/7/2010 1:03:51 AM

here's what you need to know about health - if you have blood on your screen hide. when you get full health back (from a kit or just waiting), you'll hear your guy suck in a breath. now you're good to go.

but no, there's no way to see a percent health left

4/7/2010 1:09:28 AM

6 seconds after you are hit you gain 3 health per second. A sound is made after full health regenerates, its like a wisp-like sound almost like you would hear from an asthma inhaler when it is pressed. That's whats it sounds like on the Xbox, I don't know what it sounds like on the PC.

4/7/2010 11:01:40 AM

MW2 for free - the MP component for PC http://store.steampowered.com/

HAHAHAHA

4/7/2010 11:33:30 AM

^Somebody mentioned that they went back to play MW2 after BC2 and had a couple guys hiding in a little shed. They lobbed a 40mm grenade at the shed and.....nothing. The guys were fine and the shed was still there. After playing BC2, he was so used to being able to actually destroy buildings and enemy cover that he couldn't fathom playing a game where a little piece of shit shed is like standing in a nuclear bunker immune to all weapons fire.

Oh and holy shit, did anybody else notice on the BFBC2 Stats site that they have more registered users on the PC than on the other two consoles combined?? I guess its obvious that PC gaming is dead.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ]

4/7/2010 12:37:47 PM

Who claimed PC gaming was dead? I posted that and laughed that they are doing whatever they can to widen the gap between MW2 and BC2, if you were rolling your eyes at me.

4/7/2010 12:57:11 PM

Quote :

"Oh and holy shit, did anybody else notice on the BFBC2 Stats site that they have more registered users on the PC than on the other two consoles combined??"

i think this just shows the amount of people that were so siked for MW2 and when realizing what it was and what it didn't have (multiplayer-wise) they made the switch to BC2, IMO.

Quote :

"Who claimed PC gaming was dead?"

lots of game makers have claimed it and console-makers and players have claimed it. i don't think PC gaming is what it used to be but i certainly do not think it is dead.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 1:08 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 1:06:56 PM

Wasn't commenting to anybody in here directly, but as ^ said, so many of the pundits and game devs are saying that nobody plays on the PC anymore. Hell look at M$, who is constantly closing down their biggest PC gaming studios or pushing them towards X360 exclusives. Ensemble Studios made them money hand over fist with the Age of Empires family, but was not a series that would translate to console. So they shut the door on them. ACES made Flight Simulator, which was a top selling game that pushed people to buy new accessories and beefier computers. It probably would not be a big console seller though, so goodbye. Lionhead Studios, who made Fable and Black & White, are now making Fable III an X360 exclusive. No love for the PC customers who made it a hit. Also Bungie was acquired to push Halo on the X-box, and move away from the PC. Now look, the last Halo games are all X360 exclusive, not even shared with the PC. Also they closed down FASA who made Mechwarrior, a fairly popular game.

So yea, that's what I was addressing about the "rawr rawr PC gaming is dead/nothing but pirates" bullshit. And to the comment about PC gamers, I agree that I was stoked about MW2, until that whole "no dedicated servers" bullshit. Then I said to hell with that.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 2:04 PM. Reason : ]

4/7/2010 2:00:25 PM

So you don't think piracy is part of the problem with dev's and corporations moving away from the PC? i am just saying, it seems logical.

4/7/2010 3:11:24 PM

meh, piracy is a good excuse for them to curtail PC operations. but if you go to thepiratebay you can find hundreds of ISO's for current consoles and handhelds. sure, it's part of the problem. but i also thing like a less demanding demographic, ability to charge higher prices for retail launch, ability to microtransaction people to death, etc plays just as big if not bigger role

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 3:39:08 PM

piracy is a lame excuse for lazy developers who just want to release the same game they did on pc 10 years ago to a console crowd that doesn't mind boring gameplay (see halo, gears of bore, call of duty).

If you aren't lazy you can still make mad bank on pc gaming (blizzard/valve).

4/7/2010 5:31:22 PM

i would just like to say that hardcore on this game is stupid. i can't believe they'd throw some crap mode like that in a battlefield game. this is a tactical shooter, not some run and gun like COD. it's retarded not having a minimap, vehicle health, etc in a game that is meant to be a team-oriented shooter. and one RPG taking down an abrams? come on - that's just garbage. besides, every time I've tried to take it for a whirl, it's just snipers picking each other off from afar.

[Edited on April 7, 2010 at 6:15 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2010 6:10:51 PM

^^I agree with Shaggy. Piracy is a problem on all systems, not just the PC. I think typical PC gamers are a little more selective when it coming to buying games, so they are not as easy to fool with shoevelware shit games that are in a glossy box and have cool ads. They are also used to getting more stuff without paying for it, hence why they have put up with patches in exchange for new maps, etc. They also have had more freedom to tinker and customize and build their own maps, mods, etc. I am far less inclined to pay for some bullshit maps when I can download great maps that the community has built. And products like Steam absolutely give you all of the convenience of a torrent without the hassle of doing things illegally.

Bottom line, good devs can make fans, friends, and $texas on PC games. See Valve and their products, Blizzard, etc. Don't treat all of your customers like criminals with ridiculously draconian DRM, sell half a game so you can $DLC the rest of it (which is sometimes on the damn disk you bought anyways ala Bioshock 2) and say FU or lie to your fans (like IW did about their reasons for no dedicated PC servers)! These are not rocket science.

4/7/2010 6:31:30 PM

Totally agree about hardcore mode, especially squad deathmatch. Tried it once, will never play it again. It's one big nonstop snipe-fest. I am just so tired of game modes where the only objective is "shoot everyone else." I was enjoying that particular mode of gameplay back in 1993, but now it's just played out.

4/7/2010 6:44:32 PM

I, too, agree with the consensus here regarding hardcore mode. I've got a friend who can't handle hitting people in the head with a sniper, so he insists on playing that shit.

It doesn't work on Battlefield at all.

4/7/2010 10:20:06 PM

Yeah, hardcore mode in general in this game is a big camp fest, but you don't have to play it, and its there for the people that wanna play it.

4/7/2010 11:01:45 PM

^ Yeah, but as far as I can tell you can't filter out the servers that are Hardcore (on PC at least).
Most of them have it in the title, but that's a pretty annoying method.

Really wish they'd let you know what options a server is running. I hate waiting for shit to load and connect just to find out that they don't have killcam turned on.

4/7/2010 11:11:02 PM

on the PC when you load the server browser and all the servers are loaded, there are 2 arrows that can be clicked. the one all the way at the right (and orange i think) will allow you to join the server where the other arrow (more towards the middle of the line entry, believe it is after the map name) will give you all the server options that are being run. that drop down arrow also allows you to add that server as a favorite.

4/8/2010 7:54:27 AM

Has anybody notched that the MW2 list of players on TWW thread has like 47 X360, 35 PS3 and 3 PC guys, whereas here the numbers are smaller, but we have 5 X360, 6 PS3, and 7-8 PC? Just find it interesting that such a huge game as MW2 has so small a number of PC players. I'm sure it has nothing to do with them getting pissed all over by the devs and probably has something to do with the free PC multiplayer weekend.

[Edited on April 8, 2010 at 11:23 AM. Reason : ]

4/8/2010 11:23:40 AM

because the entire CoD franchise is uninspired boring ass garbage designed for console gamers.

4/8/2010 1:06:53 PM

^QFT

Apparently the New York Times agrees too:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/08/arts/television/08battle.html

4/8/2010 2:08:40 PM

I had the most fun with COD 3 online. COD 4 was good but a little frustrating, and COD 5 has way to many glitches that never got fixed. MW2 makes be angry when I play it and I can't really have any fun with it. But when I played the demo of BC1, I knew I must have it and it immediately drew me in. There is no doubt that BF is better than COD. I played the BF2 demo and that was even bad ass to be from 2005 (of whatever year it came out). I think I am through with the COD series unless they make some radical changes AND show loyalty to their customers.

4/8/2010 2:26:50 PM

Hopefully Activision in their infinite wisdom will require a constant internet connection for the next one, even when you are playing in single player mode. That's just SO great for your customers!

4/8/2010 2:33:03 PM

^ dont say that, Ubisoft already requires that for the latest Silent Hunter and other games too. it's apart of their new DRM copy protection methods.

4/9/2010 1:11:20 PM

^ R.U.S.E. is another example.

4/9/2010 3:16:35 PM

Fuck MW2, this game is fucking great.

PC: smdude

4/9/2010 6:27:52 PM