Hopefully it will be a late third. Then early 4th vs late third is a wash. I really like the picks. We needed end help and haven't had a solid return man in years.

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ]

4/28/2012 12:37:01 PM

Anyone on here try to challenge Cam to Madden yet?

4/28/2012 12:45:16 PM

Quote :

"goddammit sounds like hurney got that 4th for a 6th this year and next year's third "

hahahaha hurney is such a goddamn retard

4/28/2012 1:30:32 PM

jesus christ AGAIN

4/28/2012 1:51:04 PM

^^^yeah he's pretty busy

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 2:13 PM. Reason : and his only XBL friend is Sherrod Martin]

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 2:20 PM. Reason : Josh Norman perhaps?]

4/28/2012 2:13:17 PM

Fuck this mortgaging our future bullshit. It never works out when we trade up using next year higher round pick

4/28/2012 2:32:03 PM

worked for getting Olsen

4/28/2012 2:38:28 PM

n00b question... why do the panthers drafting 8th in some rounds and 9th in others?

4/28/2012 2:47:08 PM

Panthers and Dolphins finished with the exact same record, there was a coinflip between the two teams, which the Dolphins won

so Dolphins got 8th pick in rounds 1,3,5 and 7, Panthers got 8th pick in rounds 2,4,6

same reason why the Colts and Rams are alternating the 1st and 2nd picks

edit:

actually the Bills also had a 6-10 record, so i guess we all kind of swap between 8,9,10 each round

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2012 2:49:04 PM

Quote :

"worked for getting Olsen"

i didnt realize we drafted olsen.

4/28/2012 3:05:35 PM

we traded a future 3rd round pick for a player that produced better than anybody we couldve possibly drafted in the 3rd round of this years draft

trading future 1st round picks for Everette Brown is dumb, but sometimes trading other future picks is better than keeping them

4/28/2012 3:07:45 PM

trading a 3 for 4 isn't sound decision making. ever.
just like trading a 1 for a 2 isn't.

it's completely different when you are trading for a player who has actually played in the NFL.

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM. Reason : you brought olsen up in an arguement that has he nothing to do with. ]

4/28/2012 3:09:45 PM

you sure are certain of the exact confines of hgtran's argument aren't you

Jets traded up to get Revis, Ravens traded up to get Ngata, etc, to say its never sound decision making is dumb

4/28/2012 3:21:59 PM

There's always a one round penalty for acquiring future picks; this is common knowledge among people who follow the draft. The key variant here, as someone stated, is the relative positioning of the picks. When we traded for Armani, we got the 89th pick in that draft of what turned out to be the 33rd pick the next year. Dogshit move, and even though you couldn't know we would have that high a pick the next season, it was a very late 3 for a player with a lot of risk.

Here, we're getting a top 10 pick in round 4. The drop in talent from 4 to 3 in general is less than the drop from 3 to 2 (and even less still than 2 to 1), so even if the 3 next year is in the same relative position, its a fair deal given the precedent. However, if we improve next year and say our 3rd next years falls in the 80s, then getting the 103rd pick this year will look like a wise move. A 15-20 position drop for a guy we clearly wanted and a guy who will already have a year head start on whoever we'd take next season. Can't really blame Hurndog for this one; I think its more the stigma of giving up a day 2 pick for a day 3 pick, even if the actual picks are relatively close. The 6th round pick is really just a throw in, as they generally struggle to make a roster.

4/28/2012 3:22:16 PM

please show me an example of marty hurney trading a future draft pick for a draft pick in a later round that has worked out.

4/28/2012 3:24:07 PM

Ricky Manning was a beast corner in our Super Bowl season

4/28/2012 3:27:42 PM

also, remind me who the last WR hurney drafted who was even halfway decent.

marty hurney is a shit GM and the panthers will never be great with him at the helm.

4/28/2012 3:29:25 PM

Brandon Lafell

find me another team thats hit on 9 of their last 11 1st round picks (really 9 out of 10 but i'll count Everette Brown as a wasted 1st round pick)

4/28/2012 3:30:00 PM

i wouldnt call lafell halfway decent yet.

4/28/2012 3:33:25 PM

How about the second best linebacker that we got from trading up in a draft

4/28/2012 3:35:27 PM

^^longest pass reception in Panthers history

4/28/2012 3:39:14 PM

My biggest issue with Hurney is using high picks on RBs and LBs, aruguably the easiest positions to fill in the game. He's hit on so many high picks because he's taking the safest players available. Most really good teams use more high picks in the trenches, on both sides of the ball.

4/28/2012 3:40:40 PM

i just think some people will always think he does a horrible job if all 7 rounds dont produce superstars, which no draft ever will for any team

i mean people now want to act like Cam was a no-brainer, when you go back a year ago, it seems like 90% of people wanted Patrick Peterson or Dareus or Fairley

and at the time, who didnt think Jarrett was a good pick? how could you pass on Clausen at 48 when all you have is Delhomme and Moore?

[Edited on April 28, 2012 at 3:47 PM. Reason : .]

4/28/2012 3:44:22 PM

on the clock at 207

Brad Nortman, PUNTER

4/28/2012 5:20:09 PM

RW's punter

did he even punt last season

4/28/2012 5:23:32 PM

lol at the punter's wiki page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Nortman

i dunno anything about the d-back from Cal

4/28/2012 5:51:59 PM

Panthers sign 11 undrafted free agents

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/04/29/3207760/four-wideouts-among-11-free-agents.html

one of them is Darrell Green's son, wonder if he's fast as shit

4/29/2012 9:26:02 PM

Quote :

"i just think some people will always think he does a horrible job if all 7 rounds dont produce superstars, which no draft ever will for any team i mean people now want to act like Cam was a no-brainer, when you go back a year ago, it seems like 90% of people wanted Patrick Peterson or Dareus or Fairley and at the time, who didnt think Jarrett was a good pick? how could you pass on Clausen at 48 when all you have is Delhomme and Moore?"

1. i think he's awful because of retarded draft decisions along with the awful, awful contracts he has given players.

2. nobody with half a brain thought that.

3. clausen has been an overrated fuck since he was in high school. if you had watched any of his games at ND, you would know he wasn't worth any draft pick, much less a 2nd round pick.

4/30/2012 1:01:09 AM

if you can't even give me #2, theres no point in arguing this with you...as soon as Luck said he was staying in school, most everyone on TWW with a brain, most every NFL analyst and expert with a brain, wasn't sold on Newton...if you can't even acknowledge that much i wont bother

4/30/2012 1:08:01 AM

^

4/30/2012 7:09:45 AM

Clausen was a fucking garbage pick. Most everyone except for dick-riding Mel Kiper thought it was a bad pick. Armanti Edwards was just as bad.

4/30/2012 7:14:47 AM

We traded for the 8th pick in the 4th round. So if we win the SB next year, our pick will be 32nd in the 3rd round. So we really only potentially traded back 8 places, not a terrible deal, hahaha.

4/30/2012 7:44:56 AM

^^Clausen was garbage, but without him sucking so tremendously, we would've never gotten Cam. So bravo Clausen

Also, Twista is right ... I'd say 75% of Panthers fans wanted nothing to do with Cam Newton before the draft. Peterson, Dareus, AJ Green were talked about ... shit, some even wanted Gabbert over Cam. But I think most just wanted to trade out of the #1 spot.

4/30/2012 9:53:18 AM

I definitely didn't want Cam as our #1 pick, and I even go as far as saying I hated the pick at the time. I consumed my crow and hopped on the wagon after his week 1 performance was followed by another 400+ yard game in week 2.

4/30/2012 10:55:31 AM

I didn't necessarily want Cam but I came around to the pick by the time we drafted him. I definitely wanted him over any other QB, especially that no-talent Gabbert who I saw as just a media hype construction.

I literally think Gabbert's agents were bribing ESPN analysts to make him relevant.

4/30/2012 11:25:38 AM

I didnt think Cam would be that good either. Changed my mind after the first preseason game when he had that ridiculous scramble.

Quickly took our over 4.5 wins bet.

Then he promptly began to suck for the rest of the preseason.


Week 1 throws for 800 yards, the rest is history.


He hasn't become an elite QB yet or anything, but he might be one in a few months.

4/30/2012 11:31:56 AM

caption contest:

4/30/2012 1:30:20 PM

last night i had a dream David Gettis retired

4/30/2012 1:33:24 PM

I've been reading up on the draft recap and this guy, IMO, is a huge pickup.

Quote :

"Round 7 (No. 216 overall): S D.J. Campbell, California Campbell views himself as a student of the game, but he's got some brawn to go with his brain power. "I'm more an intellectual, cerebral type of player," the 6-foot, 205-pounder said. "I'm not the biggest, strongest guy, but I know the game of football. I know how to react in different situations and against different formations. "I think about plays before they happen, which gives me an advantage." http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Panthers-agree-to-terms-with-12-college-free-agents/4a2ca30b-1f21-4d0c-97be-59fe556cdb07 Maybe so, but Campbell had 22 bench-press reps of 225 pounds, ran a 4.51 in the 40-yard dash and recorded a 38-inch vertical jump at his pro day. The bench press would have tied for tops at the combine among safeties, and the 40 time and vertical would have tied for second. Campbell, however, wasn't invited to the combine. He only became a regular starter as a fifth-year senior last season after standing out for three seasons on special teams, an area that undoubtedly will be key to his hopes for pro success. "Special teams are very important," Campbell said. "It really gets overlooked. People only want to see the guys who score touchdowns, but without field position, you can't be in position to score. If special teams can get you to the 50 as opposed to the 20, your offense can open up the playbook and have more opportunities to score.""

on another note, we've signed 12 UFAs

http://www.panthers.com/news/article-2/Panthers-agree-to-terms-with-12-college-free-agents/4a2ca30b-1f21-4d0c-97be-59fe556cdb07



[Edited on April 30, 2012 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .]

4/30/2012 4:28:52 PM

lol

5/2/2012 4:32:45 PM

I wanted Fairley. Few Panther fans were sold on Cam prior to the season.

5/2/2012 5:43:25 PM

lots of the pre-draft talk on here started message_topic.aspx?topic=606881&page=12 shortly after Luck said he was going back to school...I wanted Fairley as well but I'm gonna spend a couple minutes reading through the thread...in the first post of page 12, i clearly had no idea how good an OC Chud would be

5/2/2012 6:08:46 PM

Quote :

"i wanna just say fuck it and get Newton, you know the NFL would put him on some MNF games"

5/2/2012 6:39:37 PM

me and thegoodlife3 were holding down the Cam optimism pre-draft in the early 20-pages

face was convinced Newton would be the worst pick possible, but he did have a great Bobcats rant

in January, 99.9% of Wolfwebbers wanted someone other than Newton

lol i posted this from my phone from Florida shortly after the pick

Quote :

"Regarding vince young He never had to face any adversity in college ever, his crazy ass self didn't get exposed until he made the pros and faced some tough situations Newton daced plenty of adversity, and all he did with it was win on the field You racist ass fucks can suck my dick and gtfo of the panthers thread and go follow another team faggot"

5/2/2012 6:59:05 PM

yeah i was way off on Newton, I wanted us to take Samsonite.

5/2/2012 7:23:48 PM

so apparently Charles Johnson made $34 million last season, over 10 million more than #2 on the list.

5/2/2012 9:03:52 PM

Mcshay has the Panthers taking Amerson @ pick #11 in the 2013 draft. Obviously...that more than likely won't happen...but interesting nonetheless

edit: Holy shit, just saw he has Logan Thomas (V-Tech QB) goin #17 to the Bills.../legitimacy

[Edited on May 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM. Reason : sdfsd]

5/2/2012 9:17:33 PM

I was pro-Cam before it was cool!

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=606881&page=8#14505428

Also I had Amerson as a first rounder after his freshman year.

Now let's just ignore the thousands of shitty predictions, like Matt Moore being a decent NFL quarterback or Olindo Mare being anything other than human garbage...

5/2/2012 9:50:38 PM

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2012/05/panthers-sign-punter-nick-harris.html

kinda makes you wonder who else we couldve drafted in the 6th, but we'll see

5/8/2012 3:22:15 PM

Quote :

"Mcshay has the Panthers taking Amerson @ pick #11 in the 2013 draft. Obviously...that more than likely won't happen...but interesting nonetheless"

I've seen a half dozen mock drafts with Amerson as a top 10 pick. One of them had him going #5.

5/8/2012 5:34:40 PM