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11/11/2012 9:06:52 PM
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Steven All American 6156 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ive been wearing my seahawks RW jersey all over chicago. he is well liked here. often getting props from bears fans" |
see how that goes in 3 weeks. 11/12/2012 12:29:53 AM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Russell Wilson has just finished the best three-game stretch in terms of quarterback rating for a rookie in NFL history. Wilson, according to the NFL, is the first rookie to have a passer rating of 125 or better in three consecutive games." |
11/27/2012 9:02:38 AM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
ROY voting should end up like this:
1. RG3 2. Muscle Hamster 3. Everyone else 11/27/2012 9:28:32 AM
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Kickstand All American 11454 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, Russell!!! 12/2/2012 4:37:24 PM
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ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Luck? 12/2/2012 4:51:30 PM
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, if it wasn't for the fact that Luck is putting up monster numbers and has the best record of any of the rookie QBs I'd say it would be RGIII and Doug Martin.
However, unless Luck shit's the bed the Colts are going to be in the playoffs, the others are not, so he'll win ROY. 12/2/2012 6:02:51 PM
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qwery2 Veteran 261 Posts user info edit post |
^Andy Dalton disagrees. 12/2/2012 6:08:52 PM
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AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Luck tied for the league lead in interceptions
[Edited on December 2, 2012 at 6:15 PM. Reason : ] 12/2/2012 6:09:59 PM
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
Also 7th in passing yards, and asked to do more than any other rookie QB. 12/2/2012 6:12:51 PM
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ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
3,600 yards and 17 passing TD and 5 rushing TD
those are pretty solid stats with 4 games remaining 12/2/2012 6:13:58 PM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Yards don't make up for ints, lack of TDs, and poor passer rating. 12/2/2012 6:16:06 PM
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
And yet they're going to win 11 games... mostly because of him. 12/2/2012 6:18:51 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
his 3rd place ROTY voting results will be respectable
[Edited on December 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM. Reason : ^lets not get carried away...it doesnt hurt to have a top-10 running back and top-10 defense] 12/2/2012 6:19:01 PM
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AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
They probably win 10 games, but holy crap that's an easy schedule. 12/2/2012 6:24:18 PM
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Kurtis636 All American 14984 Posts user info edit post |
I assume you're talking about the Redskins, because the combination of Vick Ballard and Donald Brown is nowhere near being a top ten RB. 12/2/2012 6:24:40 PM
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ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
Luck already set the record for most passing yards in a game by a rookie (433) and will shatter Cam's rookie record for passing yards in a rookie season 12/2/2012 6:26:20 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
^^i'm obviously not talking about Marshawn Lynch and Seattle's defense
[Edited on December 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM. Reason : ok doesnt look like youre talking about RW either lol] 12/2/2012 6:27:55 PM
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BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Nm
[Edited on December 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM. Reason : ~] 12/2/2012 6:33:25 PM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
NPR, which is for people who at best don't care about sports at all, did a piece on ROY candidates. Wilson wasn't even mentioned. 12/4/2012 7:58:20 PM
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aaronburro Sup, B 52787 Posts user info edit post |
it's part of that communist liberal nazi left-wing lamestream media conspiracy 12/5/2012 1:41:22 PM
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kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson only gets attention from people that are forced to pay attention.
At State, he was 3rd on the depth chart and had a break out spring game. We had to pay attention.
At Wisconsin, they brought him in and he had an amazing offseason. They had to pay attention.
At Seattle, they were paying a ton of money to another qb, but Wilson massively outperformed him. They had to pay attention.
He's not flashy, he's just a guy who gets his shit done. That team could make the superbowl with the poise and confidence he possesses and he still won't get the credit. The hawks defense is good for 3 quarters. They have been routinely burned in the 4th quarter when it matters. RW doesn't need to be "the man" on that team, but he could if he needed to. 12/5/2012 1:46:33 PM
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ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
is that really why Wisconsin fans paid attention to him? 12/5/2012 6:06:55 PM
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richthofen All American 15758 Posts user info edit post |
RW has come out of practically nowhere to have a very solid season for the Seahawks. Doesn't play like a rookie. Helps them win. And being a solid NFL starter in your first season is very impressive.
What he's not done is put the entire team on his shoulders like RGIII or Luck. 12/5/2012 6:22:18 PM
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45908 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/12/06/2528150/seattles-best.html
so does he really have the best rookie QB stats? cause I don't ever hear shit about him, just luck and RGIII 12/6/2012 9:03:07 AM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
depends on which stats you look at.
RW has more TD passes than the other two.
other than that, most other typical stats (passing yards, rushing yards, completion%, INTs, W/L), will have Luck or RGIII with the best numbers of the three.
Not to say there isn't an argument. Clearly RW, Luck, and RGIII, are the best rookie QBs this year. If i'm being as unbiased as I can be, I'd give RoY to RGIII. 12/6/2012 11:49:45 AM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I tend to agree. I see another Dalton vs Newton debate now that Wilson/Luck are showing up and winning games, but it will be hard to compete with the highlight reel flair of RGIII despite his overall worse team record, especially given the ESPN knob slobbing. 12/6/2012 12:02:37 PM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Not to mention Indy plays in a weak AFC and Seattle has an overall better cast around their QB in terms of a rushing game and great defense.
RGIII is all the skins have. 12/6/2012 1:05:59 PM
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LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think Doug Martin ends up in the top 3 for rookie of the year. One of the QBs is gonna have a stinker the last couple of weeks and slide out.
Doug Martin #3 in rushing yards and T-2 for rushing TDs as a rookie on, pretty much, a bad team. 12/6/2012 1:28:30 PM
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BigHitSunday Dick Danger 51059 Posts user info edit post |
RWIII? 12/6/2012 2:08:54 PM
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nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
It's not Griffin's fault the Redskins don't have a better record than they do.
Against the Rams, they were in position for a tying field goal at the end of the game until Josh Morgan went full retard and threw a ball at Courtland Finnegan and knocked them out of field goal range.
Against the Bengals, they were around the 20 yard line with the potential for a tying TD when the LG was called for a false start while the clocked was stopped with less than 10 seconds to go, the replacement refs incorrectly ran the clock down (would've been correct if the clock was not already stopped), Kyle Shanahan flipped out on the refs who gave him a 15 yard unsportsmanlike conduct penalty and then they incorrectly added an additional 5 yards, making it a total loss of 25 yards which greatly decreased the chances of getting a TD.
Against the Falcons, he got knocked out early in the third forcing the other rookie QB into action who then threw two picks.
And against the Giants, he threw a go-ahead TD with less than two minutes remaining, but on the ensuing Giants drive, the FS had the mental lapse of a lifetime and let Victor Cruz get behind him for a 77 yard TD.
Basically...if the Redskins didn't have the 29th ranked defense and the replacement refs didn't suck so fucking hard (and gift Seattle a win while they were at it), Griffin would probably have the Skins at 8-4 right now and he would clearly be the frontrunner for ROY.
[Edited on December 6, 2012 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ] 12/6/2012 2:27:21 PM
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ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
^Substitute in Newton and Panthers for last year and you get the same result. Debate last year was that Dalton was a proven QB and got his team into the playoffs as a rookie, whereas Newton was a super flashy, record shattering QB on a shit team. Newton ended up winning. 12/6/2012 2:46:06 PM
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GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "RW has to be the worst person ever to follow on twitter. all he does is post bible versus and retweet other religious statements. its unbearable " |
LOL! 12/6/2012 3:41:32 PM
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HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""RW has to be the worst person ever to follow on twitter. all he does is post bible versus and retweet other religious statements. its unbearable "" |
Ugh, I know. He also tweets about the children's hospitals he visits. Its so infuriating. I wish he would tweet about how much his receivers suck and how it's him against the world. Why does twitter force me to follow him. 12/6/2012 6:03:38 PM
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GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
TOB's fault, champions in the classroom and all that shit... 12/6/2012 6:16:54 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
IMO Luck has looked the worst of the three. He makes some awful throws sometimes that make you just scratch your head.
Like I said earlier, I think ROY should be Griffin, then Martin.
Wilson is quietly having a great rookie season, but isn't going to win any awards for it. Just a super bowl, maybe. 12/6/2012 8:07:36 PM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^ hah, not in the NFC he ain't. 12/6/2012 10:24:13 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
Luck has already quadrupled the win total of last year's Colts (with 4 games remaining) without many other additions to the team
dude is a beast 12/6/2012 10:30:38 PM
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Cubbie03 All American 513 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--searching-for--devoted--rookie-qb-russell-wilson--check-the-seahawks--film-room---032246420.html 12/7/2012 9:57:49 AM
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BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you think they didn't intentionally take a dive on the season to get the first pick?
plus they got rid of Jim Caldwell. We saw what happened when the colts became his team and not Peyton's. 12/7/2012 10:14:49 AM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
^i think they started off as just a terrible team...they couldve brought in a veteran QB and maybe won a couple more games, but both of their wins were late in the season...the rams also finished 2-14 last year, so they couldve done a better job of tanking 12/7/2012 1:08:31 PM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Tate said. “He does everything perfect. I almost think he’s a perfect person.”" |
I think TOB is the only person in the world who found something to hate wilson for. 12/8/2012 6:24:25 AM
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Fry The Stubby 7781 Posts user info edit post |
Wilson is a Christian. Plenty of people hate him by default. 12/8/2012 9:38:39 AM
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skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Even the terrorists like wilson 12/8/2012 10:40:48 AM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
RG3 is the ROY.
Luck is pretty good, but the Colts have the second luckiest record in the league this year based on easy schedule and close wins. They're a below average team that will get deep dicked in the playoffs.
Wilson has been on fire the last month and has placed Seattle one tier below the elite teams this year (SF, NE, Denver are far above the rest of the league).
I took Seattle at 50:1 last week to win SB, a little more at 35:1 this week , along with 17:1 to win the nfc. Total payout close to $5k. They are easily the most underrated team in the league and have a legitimate shot to win it all. Easy remaining schedule nearly ensures they make the playoffs and the NFC is becoming increasingly wide open now that the Bears have stumbled, falcons are imploding, and packers/giants can't get fully in gear. Not to mention kaepernick looks great now, but you never know how he'll fare as teams get more film on him and the pressure mounts in the playoffs.
Wilson just isn't making mistakes. His recent numbers are off the chart. 12/8/2012 1:09:38 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Luck is pretty good, but the Colts have the second luckiest record in the league this year based on easy schedule and close wins." |
Luck has already led his team on 5 game winning drives, they're Lucky wins alright 12/8/2012 1:47:56 PM
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GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Wonder what would have happened if he would have stayed at State and gone undrafted. Good decision by TOB for all parties involved... 12/9/2012 12:29:26 PM
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face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
^^ you don't get it. What I'm saying is they are really more like a 4-8 team with an 8-4 record. They could be the worst team to make the playoffs ever. They won't be competitive.
Im up to about $6k if seahawks win the super bowl. half of that if they just win the nfc. 12/9/2012 12:40:20 PM
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justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27566 Posts user info edit post |
Luck isn't having near as good a season as griffin. The redskins have one of the absolute worst defenses in the league, and yet they are still in the playoff hunt.
Luck makes more mistakes/bad throws than griffin. Griffin is having a better year, without a doubt. 12/9/2012 7:32:26 PM
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TreeTwista10 Forgetful Jones 148001 Posts user info edit post |
RW: 7/13, 148 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT
and his TEAM won 58-0
imagine Luck or RG3 on that team 12/9/2012 8:02:15 PM
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