Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/doeren-makes-quick-work-with-packs-class#storylink=cpy
Quote : | "N.C. State signed 23 recruits and added two transfers on Signing Day on Wednesday, 13 of the 25 new players committed after Doeren was hired to replace Tom O'Brien on Dec. 1" |
..and JuCo Ali Kassem. Not bad for just moving 800 miles a couple months ago.2/6/2013 10:21:19 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
DD and his staff did very well in just two months or so. The hat over at UNC was talking about how they need 18 months to really feel recruit a player as fully as they'd like and you could see a big jump in UNC from last year to this year for the holes. Hopefully DD and crew can show similar improvement this time next year. 2/7/2013 7:50:26 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/doeren-adds-long-time-high-school-coach-to-staff/12271119/
Quote : | "Doeren adds long-time high school coach to staff
RALEIGH, N.C. — North Carolina State University head football coach Dave Doeren added depth to his ability to recruit in-state prospects Tuesday with the hiring of Henry Trevathan as director of high school relations. Trevathan has a long history of head coaching postings within the high school ranks, including six years at Raleigh's Broughton High School and, most recently, two years as head coach at Southern Alamance High School.
Trevathan started his coaching career as a graduate assistant at State after his 1979 graduation from East Carolina University. He has experience at the college level on the staffs at Lenoir-Rhyne and Elon universities.
Trevathan continues a legacy with the Wolfpack. His father, Henry Trevathan Sr., is a member of the North Carolina Sports Hall of Fame and served as an assistant coach at State from 1986-93." |
3/26/2013 3:35:35 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ Probably a wise choice to bring on a guy like that who I assume has strong ties with a lot of NC high school football coaches. State is probably still trying to recover from the Amato era where he pissed off most of the high school coaches across the state.
[Edited on March 26, 2013 at 5:08 PM. Reason : fg] 3/26/2013 5:07:58 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Doeren after Thursday's practice:
Quote : | " "The depth chart is dynamic. It's changing. It's changing in the middle of practice sometimes. It's called a battlefield promotion or a battlefield demotion."
"That's what spring is for us in the first year. It's an evaluation time for us to really learn what we can't and can do well. We'll try to adjust our schemes accordingly."
"We've moved a few guys back and forth. In the secondary, Byrd has spent some time at safety and corner. We've got guys playing nickel and corner. Some of the linebackers are multi-trained in that way as well."
"It was fun to watch. The guys had good energy. It was good to see guys finish plays."
"We're teaching the offense... day-by-day we're adding pieces here and there. Some of htem have diferet skillsets so coach Canada is making sure he's calling plays accordingly to who is in the game."
"Jacoby is doing really well. He's been up-and-down, which you expect, learning a new offense and new teamates. He competes and he's a great leader. He's really energetic."
"Bra'lon Cherry made a couple of plays today, a new receiver. Cole is struggling snapping the ball at times, but he's playing hard."
"Those guys should be in high school.... those two guys should be going to prom and things like that. We expect that. I love their work ethic. They show up everyday." " |
3/29/2013 11:18:15 AM |
JT3bucky All American 23257 Posts user info edit post |
good to hear that Jacoby is doing well..but uhhhh...what about our starting QB for THIS year???
after watching the mic'd up sessions it looks like Pete is the starter but Jacoby is dominating.
[Edited on March 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM. Reason : f] 3/29/2013 2:14:58 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^
WTNY 3/29/2013 8:07:09 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/jeremy-fowler/22111742/nc-states-dave-doeren-takes-the-bus-to-stardom
Quote : | "NC State's Dave Doeren takes wild bus ride to stardom Jeremy Fowler April 20, 2013 4:03 pm ET
RALEIGH, N.C. -- As NC State coach Dave Doeren makes his spring game debut with the Wolfpack on Saturday, there's an interesting backstory about how he got here.
He took a Greyhound. Sort of.
Doeren wanted to wait until after the MAC title game to listen to job offers. He was hearing about them while he tried to organize a restless team outside a rest stop early on a frosty December morning somewhere in the Midwest (Doeren didn't remember the city).
Doeren tried to limit most of the contract talk with Bazant to text messaging while on the bus. He asked his agent, who's real and who's not?
“I just felt I had a great team coming back at [NIU],” Doeren said. “I didn't want to leave somewhere just to collect a million-dollar paycheck.”
Cal and Colorado were in play. So was NC State.
NC State intrigued him because of quality facilities, a dedicated fan base/administration, and a program that was hungry after going 33 seasons without a conference title. Coach Tom O'Brien was fired despite four bowl appearances in six years, though O'Brien finished one season in the national top 25. NC State wanted to be a perennial contender.
Doeren's family had vacationed twice in the Asheville area and loved it.
Athletic director Debbie Yow flew to Illinois that day to lock up Doeren. He had a message for Yow.
“When we get a championship mentality here, I can help this place,” Doeren said. “I felt like that. Had I gone to a Colorado-type place where they really need to start over facility-wise -- you're rebuilding everything there. Here, I don't have to. It just seemed like if I can get kids in-state that want to stay in state, which hasn't happened here, that will be big.”
Doeren's first order of business upon his December start was strengthening relationships with prep coaches and players in talent-rich North Carolina. NC State isn't the first school to try this, but Doeren wants to enhance the Wolfpack brand to local schools through a mutual respect.
With 11 returning starters and his best quarterback option, Florida transfer Jacoby Brissett, on the sidelines until 2014 due to NCAA transfer rules, Doeren knows his new job requires patience.
“They know I have to build a program. It's not going to be year one that we're the best program, even though they want it to be,” Doeren said. “It's not. It's going to take a couple of years to get over the hump of what we have and build a championship attitude." |
4/23/2013 11:59:26 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“They know I have to build a program. It's not going to be year one that we're the best program, even though they want it to be,” Doeren said. “It's not. It's going to take a couple of years to get over the hump of what we have and build a championship attitude."" |
-10000000
WE HAVE TO WIN NOW4/23/2013 12:04:55 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^
Disagree
With our schedule, looks like it could be a 3-9 or a 9-3. Could go either way. I don't expect a 6-6 or 7-5 4/23/2013 12:06:47 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
I definitely expect 7-8 wins. 3 oocs should be cake, dunno how la tech is. Beat wake, BC, maybe two of duke/unc/cuse/umd. 4/23/2013 12:14:41 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not expecting that many wins. you can put us down for 2 Ls out of the gate - Clemson and FSU - and 2 Ws - Richmond and CMU.
that leaves 8 games that could go either way. the odds of us losing the rest, or running the table are nil. it'll be somewhere around 50% on those 8 games, so we'll finish with a 5-7 or 6-6ish year.
TOB left the cupboard pretty bare, and we will be very frustrated at times. especially with UNC being our homecoming game. and the ECU/maryland final two weeks will probably jack us up and leave a very bad taste in our mouth until 2014.
if we're going to be bad, i say we give it 100% and really shut the bed so we don't have to give the UNC and ECU douches any more credit than they deserve when they kick the shit out of us 4/23/2013 12:41:37 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "TOB left the cupboard pretty bare," |
i'm not sure why some people keep repeating that. no, we don't any POY candidates, but we have solid depth at every position with a healthy mix of veterans. Our defense should actually be pretty stout, we'll have several beasts on the defensive line.
[Edited on April 23, 2013 at 12:54 PM. Reason : ]4/23/2013 12:54:03 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
Dude, come on. Years of poor recruiting 4/23/2013 12:58:16 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
I like how you praised the recent pick-up of a local recruit with no stars. Somehow I don't think your reaction would have been the same if we picked that same guy up a year or two ago.
But like I said, I know we don't have any great talents on the team, but we've got a lot of solid depth to build around. I too hope that Doeren & co. can be a better recruiter than the previous staff. 4/23/2013 1:03:56 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Beat wake, BC, maybe two of duke/unc/cuse/umd." |
BC is somehow pretty tough at home, but especially against us. We've never won there. And we all know how Wake away games go.
I think we'll def beat Cuse & Maryland at home, and split the Duke/UNC games
I agree with Bullet. The cupboard isn't bare. Yeah it could be better but we're not in bad shape.4/23/2013 1:13:58 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
TOB left the team in way better shape than amato did 4/23/2013 1:20:04 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
+292
N.C. State coach Dave Doeren won the coaches competition with a 292-yard drive.
Quote : | "Seven months after leading his football team to a win over Georgia Tech, Miami coach Al Golden denied the Yellow Jackets again in a different venue. At the Chick-fil-A Bowl Challenge, a golf tournament featuring 14 college coaches and their celebrity partners, Golden and Heisman Trophy winner Gino Torretta were champions Tuesday at Reynolds Plantation in Greensboro. At 11 under par in the scramble format, the Miami team was one shot ahead of South Carolina (coach Steve Spurrier and former football star Sterling Sharpe) and two in front of Tech (coach Paul Johnson and former basketball great Jon Barry) and Clemson (coach Dabo Swinney and former football star Steve Fuller). Johnson and Barry, the two-time defending champions, still won $50,000 for Tech scholarship’s fund. The field included four Heisman Trophy winners — Alabama’s Mark Ingram, Auburn’s Bo Jackson, Spurrier and Torretta. Other notable celebrity partners included North Carolina basketball coach Roy Williams and Syracuse basketball coach Jim Boeheim. Barry won Monday’s celebrity long-drive competition for the third consecutive year with a 319-yard bomb. N.C. State coach Dave Doeren won the coaches competition with a 292-yard drive." |
http://www.ajc.com/news/sports/golf/miami-wins-chick-fil-a-bowl-challenge/nXcpn/5/1/2013 3:58:21 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ That's debatable. Chuck left him a nice little gift at qb. 5/1/2013 4:14:17 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
but left huge holes at a lot of other positions. 5/1/2013 4:25:14 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Just like O'Cain left Amato with Rivers. 5/1/2013 5:14:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
What position has TOB left stocked for DD? Dline maybe? And that's a stretch. 5/1/2013 6:29:22 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
If you look at the depth chart (courtesy of some dude on PP), you'll see that we have solid depth at almost every position. No world-beaters, but solid depth: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2515&t=11316750&p=2 (table about halfway down the page)
iirc, when Amato left there were gaping holes at some positions, and we had to move guys around just to have depth at every position. At least, that's how I remember it. (and nobody knew how well RW was going to turn out) 5/1/2013 7:28:55 PM |
armorfrsleep All American 7289 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Chuck left him a nice little gift at qb." |
RW hadn't signed a letter of intent when TOB took over for Chuck, TOB had to re-recruit him after he got hired. I'm not saying it was a heated recruiting battle but I think RW took a visit to Duke around that time so TOB could have said "fuck it" and moved on.5/1/2013 7:45:52 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Fair enough. I'm just a bit hypersensitive when it comes to defending Chuck. Good lord he would have loved Russell. 5/1/2013 8:12:25 PM |
FatTony All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, when TOB came in we had multiple walk-ons on the 2 deep for at least 2 years. I think we're fairly solid all around (i.e, the 2 deep is full of D1 players). 5/1/2013 9:01:15 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
in college you can cover up holes. and walk ons arent always that big of a gulf from crappy scholarship players anyway. you need impact players who can win games and we dont have many of them right now
depth only matters once youre already at the 8 win level. thats when it's the difference from being clemson and lsu 5/1/2013 10:40:42 PM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "you need impact players ballers who can win games and we dont have many of them right now" |
Ftfy5/1/2013 11:15:28 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
So what's your expectation or expected goal for Doeren this year? What would be acceptable? 3 wins? 2? 5/2/2013 12:40:04 AM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
i assume someone will be calling for his head the first time we trail in a game 5/2/2013 12:50:30 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^^ With our schedule, 6 wins is not irrational. We have 8 home games and play a shit ton of mediocre schools. 5/2/2013 8:48:21 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
6-6 is a realistic expectation right now with 7-5 likely being my highest. I think 6-6 or 5-7 are the likely candidates though. I suppose looking at the schedule again there are 10 winnable games there if everything went right but lets face it that isnt gonna happen. 5/2/2013 9:06:37 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
12-2
acc championship, orange bowl win
11-3 worst case scenario. 5/2/2013 9:25:59 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
i think this season will be so bad, you cant even give vouchers away 5/2/2013 9:35:09 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Well, it can't start any worse than last year amirite? 5/2/2013 9:43:08 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
it's as if you want people to call you fat 5/2/2013 9:49:21 AM |
wstcoastwolf All American 1642 Posts user info edit post |
No, I'd consider losing to La Tech at home worse than losing to Tennessee in Atlanta 5/2/2013 9:49:26 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I'd like to make a bowl...even if it's a shitty one. But I wouldn't be surprised/disappointed if we don't.
I've seen what having a shitty QB can do to a team (Stone/Davis/Evans/Beck/lollers)...so I know that if Thomas and/or Stocker don't pan out...it could be a painful season. 5/2/2013 9:49:33 AM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
I'd consider losing to UCF in 2007 in TOB's debut at home much worse 5/2/2013 9:52:44 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Really? UCF was solid that year. Lol Kevin Smith took it to the house the first play of the TOB era, though. 5/2/2013 10:02:18 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
that game wasn't so bad.
now the maryland game to end the season. oof.
i remember being one of 3 people in the entire north endzone at the end of that game. 5/2/2013 10:07:20 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's as if you want people to call you fat" | ? You mean people can't intelligently discuss/debate a topic using relevant information and can't defend their own point adequately enough so they have to resort to personal attacks? Never!
^ I remember that game.
[Edited on May 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM. Reason : S]5/2/2013 10:41:03 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Well, it can't start any worse than last year amirite?" |
Don't expect intelligent replies to "intelligent" posts like this..5/2/2013 10:43:33 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, you've already used the phrase "Well, it can't start any worse than last year amirite?" several times now. You're not looking for intelligent discussion/debate. amirite? 5/2/2013 10:43:56 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
I have made similar points but it happen to come up again in a discussion about Doeren's expectations, which is a new topic. So first time I said it for this topic. 5/2/2013 10:45:27 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
what was the topic last time? predicting how well the team would do? and the new topic is Doeren's expectations? I see, two totally differently topics. Totally legitimate and intelligent discussion. 5/2/2013 10:49:42 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27824 Posts user info edit post |
wait, which one of you is the fat one again? 5/2/2013 10:56:09 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
The one without pictures in the gallery 5/2/2013 10:57:14 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
Does the tiger not walk the same even if the seasons change? Does the butterfly not flap it's wings the same no matter what the weather? 5/2/2013 11:05:51 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
^
Nope, FAIL!
Create an alias. Start over! 5/2/2013 11:08:36 AM |