GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Thinking about coming into town for the Miami game. If we are undefeated..." |
7/28/2016 11:51:22 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
go back to LSU 7/28/2016 12:17:52 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
Just go ahead and book your tickets for the ACC championship game, that'll be primetime 7/28/2016 1:08:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I mean I want Samuels to be heavily involved in the offense, the kid is super talented and can be used all over the field.
We just really need a legit passing attack so teams don't just stack the box against us every play. I mean end-arounds and gadget plays are great, but we definitely need a down-the-field passing attack to keep defenses a bit more honest." |
right, i agree with you. i think the hope is that hines and samuels are so versatile that we shouldn't have to resort to end arounds and gadget plays to get them the ball. if they work, that's great. but hopefully Drinkwitz can simply get them the ball more in every facet of the offensive....gadget plays, pass plays, run plays, etc. of course, you're right, some of that does require a competent qb.
Quote : | "Who is our TE? Is Moss going to RS?" |
don't know if Moss will RS or not. Samuels is obviously listed as a TE but doesn't line up as a traditional TE all that often. Pharoah McKever, converted from DE, will be our TE in a more traditional sense. he had a long TD catch and run in the bowl game
[Edited on July 28, 2016 at 1:58 PM. Reason : v]7/28/2016 1:58:19 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, he has 2 TDs in his career at state, both like 82 yards. The other was an interception return i think. Or a fumble. 7/28/2016 2:02:17 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^interception at Syracuse.
I imagine Cole Cook will be involved too but irrc, he mostly blocked. I did notice Moss was on the roster, does that mean his shirt is gone? 7/28/2016 2:41:43 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
nah, redshirts are listed on the roster along with everybody else. in fact, i don't think redshirts are even official until after the season. it's probably a little early for the staff to be definitively making that call one way or the other. 7/28/2016 3:22:08 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
After reviewing some film myself, I get the impression this year will feature LOTS of wrinkles. reverses, jet sweeps, triple options with the pass...
Basically Auburn with Newton but on crack passing wise.
Auburn meets the air raid.
Lots of on the fly personnel changes. The QB has to be able to read EVERYTHING the defense is doing pre-snap 7/28/2016 3:23:12 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Combination of Oregon and Alabama right? 7/29/2016 3:06:19 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
with alabama type talent 7/29/2016 4:01:35 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Required watching should be Utah State v. Boise State. So you get an idea what a Drinkwitz offense looks like when the Oline is obliterated on nearly every play. That's what I'm preparing myself to see
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LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Really think our new OL coach is going to be legit, it just might take him a season or 2 to train our guys up.
Though I really like the interior of our OL, but some huge questions marks at OT. 8/1/2016 9:15:29 AM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
should be solid this year 8/1/2016 11:10:15 AM |
Bullet All American 28415 Posts user info edit post |
Talks about the QBs (no mention of Meyers)
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/pack-gets-first-real-fall-feel-for-faster-offense/15894744/ 8/1/2016 5:03:17 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Alright boys, make sure you vote for our beloved Fack here http://deadspin.com/the-deadspin-25-is-back-1784654893 8/1/2016 5:04:29 PM |
slckwill577 All American 757 Posts user info edit post |
Meyers has some sort of injury that kept him from participating fully. 8/1/2016 8:39:00 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Yea Meyers is just a wittle hurt, that boise boy ain't takin his jerb anytime soon. 8/1/2016 8:53:45 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like it's actually a 2-QB battle right now between McClendon and Findley unless Meyers heals up soon.
Though I do expect if we struggle or get an injury they'll turn to Meyers as the back-up to spark our offense. 8/2/2016 9:14:43 AM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
I read all that info too but didnt hear anything to suggest his injury was major. Do we know what this is? 8/2/2016 10:37:21 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i don't think the meyers thing is serious. he just didn't practice that day so there was nothing to report. 8/2/2016 1:22:08 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it's "serious" but it seems to be enough to keep him limited in practice for a bit. When you're having a QB competition, missing several days doesn't help your cause.
Not saying he won't end up the starter, but for now I think it's much more likely that McClendon starts the first game. 8/3/2016 1:48:26 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
I think regardless of injury or no, McClendon will get the nod game 1 due to seniority. He's waited his turn for past 3 years, he'll get his shot. DD is like Toby in that way.
HOWEVER, it will be only be a matter of time before Meyers starts getting the snaps. Probably after McClendon is sacked 20 times getting our ass handed to us by ECU (embarrassing), we will move to the guy with the wheels and tha feels. 8/3/2016 2:53:34 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
LOL our season hasn't even started nor do we even know who the starting QB will be and some are already clamoring for the backup. I hope I'm wrong, but I am not looking forward to the season. Unless drastic changes are coming from DD, we are looking at 6-6. 8/3/2016 3:29:25 PM |
Bullet All American 28415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I hope I'm wrong, but I am not looking forward to the season." |
I'm utterly shocked that you aren't optimistic.8/3/2016 3:39:56 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Unless drastic changes are coming from DD, we are looking at 6-6." |
I think that's our ceiling with this schedule.8/3/2016 5:01:24 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah unfortunately for DD easily his hardest schedule by a LOT comes on basically his "make or break" season. 8/4/2016 8:55:11 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think you mean ceiling but most likely outcome.
If you made a bell curve of probability of outcome. 6-6 would be the peak of the curve with a sharp tail off after the peak and a slightly less sharp curve off before the peak. 8/4/2016 12:29:46 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree with that. I think we could win a few more if we end up with GREAT QB play. 8/4/2016 1:58:51 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
If we resemble the other Doeren teams this is how I see it shaking out:
W&M - W @ECU - L ODU - W WF - W ND - L @CLEM - L @LOU - L BC - W FSU - L @SYR - W MIA - L @UNC - L
5-7 overall.
I still feel like that's optimistic. You can say ECU is in a coaching change, etc. but it's still in Greenville and they'll be out for blood. I could see us losing to any of the ACC teams I have posted as W's for as well. WF will play tough, Syracuse is away, and BC has surprised us before.
I hope I'm wrong and Doeren and company have really turned things around. 8/4/2016 2:19:49 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Agreed^. I think we a closer to losing a couple than winning a couple extra games. Although BC didnt win a game last year, they were within like 4 points in most of their games. WF and Syracuse are going to be toss ups. The teams you have us losing to are all comparatively better than us. We are clearly taking a step back this year with our new QB, so I just don't feel too optimistic.
And then of course DD is our coach. 8/4/2016 2:32:54 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
Ok, trying to figure out why people are already assuming we lose to ECU.
2015: ECU was 5-7. Only notable win was VT, who was playing with their back-up QB.
Offense: Starting QB transferred out. 2nd most-used QB last year was a RB/WR they were forced to play. Starting QB this year will either be a guy who missed all of last season with an injury or a Rutgers transfer. Starting RB graduated. Losing 2 of their top 4 WRs from last year, though back-ups are veterans. They lose 3 of their 5 starting OL and one starter is making the move from RT to LT.
Defense: Total Defense: Ranked 66th. (NCSU ranked 29th) Rush Defense: Ranked 69th. (NCSU ranked 39th) Pass Defense: Ranked 67th. (NCSU ranked 36th)
I mean I get it, it's ECU, they used to have a high-paced offense, but Ruffin is gone, so I imagine they'll look completely different. The only advantage they have is that it's @ECU, I believe coach will know he HAS to win 3 of the 4 OOC games because ND is going to whip us, so I imagine the guys will be ready.
[Edited on August 4, 2016 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .] 8/4/2016 2:38:06 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ok, trying to figure out why people are already assuming we lose to ECU.
2015: ECU was 5-7. Only notable win was VT, who was playing with their back-up QB.
Offense: Starting QB transferred out. 2nd most-used QB last year was a RB/WR they were forced to play. Starting QB this year will either be a guy who missed all of last season with an injury or a Rutgers transfer. Starting RB graduated. Losing 2 of their top 4 WRs from last year, though back-ups are veterans. They lose 3 of their 5 starting OL and one starter is making the move from RT to LT.
Defense: Total Defense: Ranked 66th. (NCSU ranked 29th) Rush Defense: Ranked 69th. (NCSU ranked 39th) Pass Defense: Ranked 67th. (NCSU ranked 36th)
I mean I get it, it's ECU, they used to have a high-paced offense, but Ruffin is gone, so I imagine they'll look completely different. The only advantage they have is that it's @ECU, I believe coach will know he HAS to win 3 of the 4 OOC games because ND is going to whip us, so I imagine the guys will be ready.
[Edited on August 4, 2016 at 2:38 PM. Reason : .]" |
Because fans of bad teams always expect to lose on the road.8/4/2016 3:12:33 PM |
Darb5000 All American 1294 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Because fans of bad teams always expect to lose on the road." |
8/4/2016 3:18:28 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
8/4/2016 3:34:32 PM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
W&M - W @ECU - W ODU - W WF - W ND - L @CLEM - L @LOU - L (possible to upset) BC - W FSU - L @SYR - W (possible to lose) MIA - L (possible to upset) @UNC - L (possible to upset)
That's 6-6. Could go as high as 9-3 or as low as 5-7 depending on QB?offense 8/4/2016 3:40:17 PM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
I see us maybe being as bad as 0-12 or as good as 12-0. Depends on if we get horrendous, bad, sorta bad, decent, average, slightly above average, slightly below good, good, slightly above good, really good, just below great, great, really great, or REALLY really great play from the players. 8/4/2016 4:02:31 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I see the ECU game determining whether we make a bowl or not. I'm going with 5-7. 8/4/2016 4:03:04 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We are clearly taking a step back this year with our new QB, so I just don't feel too optimistic." |
we don't know that and qb is still only one position. i don't remember us being able to pass much last year so I really don't get the revisionist history that some sort of Russell Wilson just left our program.
I don't get why everyone's concern is around our offense and not our defense, which is what prevented us from being really good last year.8/4/2016 4:23:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Brissett was a third round draft pick. I am pretty confident in saying that this Boise St. transfer won't be that (if he is the starter). 8/4/2016 5:20:58 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
you guys act like our problem is offense.
Defense is what worries me...we have been in games offensively but just absolutely could not stop anyone, especially the safeties and corners...They could not tackle.
We better worry about the defense...the offense has plenty of weapons. 8/4/2016 5:49:59 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm utterly shocked that you aren't optimistic." |
8/4/2016 7:18:25 PM |
fenway All American 3135 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not worried about our offense, but aside from the 2010 team (and the 2011 team when they were healthy), we've been awful on the defensive side of the ball for a while. It has gotten to the point for me at least where I just kind of assume we're gonna give up a lot of points any time we play a decent team.
I'm more focused on the offense right now just because I'm hoping our offense shows some improvement in terms of being more consistent quarter to quarter and game to game that we'll be able to outscore some of the teams on our schedule that I could conceivably see us upsetting (UNC, Miami, Louisville). 8/5/2016 9:09:26 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27839 Posts user info edit post |
Our defense is probably gonna be worse, since we're going to this superultramega fast offense. 8/5/2016 9:32:22 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
On paper our defense should be better. We've got some talent on the DL in Street, Hill, and Roseboro. Two experienced LBs. A few pieces in the secondary.
But looking decent on paper doesn't really matter when Huxtable is still calling the plays. I have very little faith in his 2 LB scheme. We will probably be awful again. 8/5/2016 9:50:28 AM |
themayor All American 1473 Posts user info edit post |
^ ya, it appeared to me last year we had people out of place often and the wrong scheme in place way too often. Not sure if that was a reflection of the coaching, the on field play calling or people being out of position. If we can eliminate a few knucklehead plays, we could be sooo much better. 8/5/2016 10:06:33 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
everything should be better overall but ^^^ is hoping we are one of the best offenses in the country which just isn't realistic. Outscoring clemson isn't realistic.
^^our defense can't really get worse. Efficiency ratings account for a fast offense. The people hating on our offense are dwelling on just 2 games. the 2 games immediately after shad was kicked off and they were played in tropical storms. 8/5/2016 10:07:55 AM |
Bullet All American 28415 Posts user info edit post |
From what I recall, our defense wasn't bad, we just gave up too many big plays. 8/5/2016 10:24:09 AM |
titans78 All American 4038 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't that what essentially makes your defense bad? 8/5/2016 10:31:28 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
the good ole "break, but don't bend" philosophy 8/5/2016 10:34:07 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Our defense sucked against any team with a semblance of an offense. Our only good defensive games came against garbage offensive teams like BC, WF, Syracuse, cup cakes, and UL which was played in a hurricane while they were breaking in their stud QB. 8/5/2016 10:37:56 AM |