rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The feeling of Buckeye fans towards Matta is similar to how ours was towards Sendek. " |
MATTA'S BEEN TO 2 FINAL FOURS
AND WON 4 CONF TITLES
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synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "In no way, shape or form would Archie allude to taking this job at this point in Dayton's season. " |
Obviously, but that's the wrong thing to discuss.
The more important bit is the idiot who leaked this shit to the press. It's a pretty terrible look, and only hurts our process.
But if you really wanna talk Archie, why would he leave? Evidently he's close to his family up there, gets paid quite well, and doesn't have to deal with the expectations of this fanbase. If the argument is bigger job in a power 5 conference, he's got plenty of time to make that jump. What is he, 38? He's got plenty of time to wait for the perfect opening...and I really don't think this is that for him.2/15/2017 8:41:49 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
^lol 2/15/2017 8:50:48 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
hey, that took me at least 2 minutes! 2/15/2017 9:15:23 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
heard abc11 offered to pay for the leaker's pizza 2/15/2017 9:27:54 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37671 Posts user info edit post |
^^i was more referring to moving it to this page (maybe you were too) 2/15/2017 9:31:47 PM |
synapse play so hard 60935 Posts user info edit post |
^ yup 2/15/2017 9:52:48 PM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
Pls to retain orlando early just for recruiting lol
[Edited on February 15, 2017 at 10:27 PM. Reason : .] 2/15/2017 10:27:16 PM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^this 2/15/2017 10:56:33 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Never thought about Moten until someone posted his resume. I remember he beat us one time. Maybe once Archie turns us down we should talk to Moten. 2/15/2017 11:04:37 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
it'd be a big jump in competition level for Moton. but i think he's a really good coach 2/16/2017 7:29:30 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
perpetual douchebag Jeff Goodman was filling his NC State trolling quota last night, posting that Archie coming to Raleigh isnt going to happen
gave no proof
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JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What is he, 38? He's got plenty of time to wait for the perfect opening...and I really don't think this is that for him." |
your other points are valid but not this. At 38 you are looking to start your legacy somewhere. If he is to leave for anywhere now is the time, history has proven that.2/16/2017 8:05:22 AM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
I think the issue right now with Matta is that they believe they peaked and his recruiting is falling off and some are associating it with him having health issues, not sure how accurate those reports are.
Archie is clearly our #1 target, but I expect our list of candidates includes guys like Marshall, Keatts, and Wade. Hell I've seen Hoiberg and Crean thrown around, obviously Hoiberg would have to be fired from the Bulls first. 2/16/2017 8:30:55 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5857 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "perpetual douchebag Jeff Goodman was filling his NC State trolling quota last night, posting that Archie coming to Raleigh isnt going to happen
gave no proof" |
I understand he trolls us alot but he is really close with the Miller's.2/16/2017 8:31:11 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
He's close to the Miller's? 2/16/2017 10:03:09 AM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and doesn't have to deal with the expectations of this fanbase" |
really sick of hearing this. if you win, you dont deal with expectations. if you dont think you can win here, dont come, and frankly i wouldnt want you, regardless of your 'name' and current success elsewhere
gottfried had the right attitude when he came here. i want the next coach to have that attitude, but also be able to coach.2/16/2017 10:30:05 AM |
NCSUStinger Duh, Winning 62447 Posts user info edit post |
whats herb doing these days? 2/16/2017 11:03:14 AM |
Clifton All American 4711 Posts user info edit post |
At Santa Clara having a mediocre season? 2/16/2017 11:04:29 AM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
Why hasn't Brad Stevens been brought up yet? Is he too pie in the sky? Honest question. 2/16/2017 11:06:24 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Because he has the celtics on the brink of being a contender soon? Well at least in the East haha 2/16/2017 11:09:45 AM |
Clifton All American 4711 Posts user info edit post |
Jeff Goodman should just pick our new coach.
Or y'all could stop paying attention to him, thus not empowering his bullshit and leaving him unemployed.
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wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Think Roy Williams is ready for a change? 2/16/2017 11:19:00 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe Mark Few is tired of having a lowly program like Gonzaga at number 1 in the country and wants a change of pace. A program like Gonzaga can be ranked number 1 and we cant even get out of the ACC basement... let that sink in. 2/16/2017 11:23:25 AM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
I'd be OK with Tom Crean 2/16/2017 11:24:08 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i think we should pick someone random and obscure and then post about him on multiple forums so the sports media reports that they are one of the coaches state is considering 2/16/2017 11:34:54 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
How about Vermonts coach? They are 24-5 (14-0). Lets get him some press! 2/16/2017 11:39:56 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Stop saying Gregg Marshall. That ship has sailed. He makes $3.3 million yearly at Wichita. Been over this a million times. 2/16/2017 11:51:19 AM |
Sandman All American 1215 Posts user info edit post |
I'd recommend Will Wade 2/16/2017 11:59:07 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
Kevin Boyle. Built St. Patrick into a national power and is now doing the same with Montverde.
Or maybe Steve Smith. He has had sustained success at Oak Hill. 2/16/2017 12:49:23 PM |
Clifton All American 4711 Posts user info edit post |
What about Larry Harris? 2/16/2017 12:52:40 PM |
ncsuallday Sink the Flagship 9818 Posts user info edit post |
Will Wade may just be winning with Shaka's recruits 2/16/2017 12:54:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25501 Posts user info edit post |
here's my opinion. our ideal coach is probably something like this...a younger coach, not afraid of competition on the court and recruiting trail, capable of actually coaching Xs and Os, capable of building a program and roster in a sustainable manner as opposed to a mash up of last minute recruits and transfers, and obviously...a coach that will win here and take us to heights we haven't seen in a long time.
that said, that coach - with a proven track record at a high major - might exist...but he very likely isn't leaving his current job for NC State. so you have to take a chance on somebody. it sucks because it's obviously risky. but if you find a coach with the qualities you like but he lacks experience, fuck it...take that chance.
that's where i'm at with our next hire. it very likely won't be somebody that is an automatic A+ hire and will immediately take us where we wanna go. maybe Archie is our best shot at that simply because he went to school here, and we definitely should gauge his interest. but if he turns us down, i'm all for taking a risk on a guy from the mid-major or low-major ranks that fits the our requirements (aside from experience) as opposed to a retread or a guy that just got fired from a P5 gig. it's a riskier move, but if it works out, it's a much better move for the overall future of the program. ultimately, there's not a silver bullet kinda hire we're gonna be able to make...Archie is the best shot at that, and he may not even wanna come here.
i don't really think that's a particularly controversial opinion, but then i see people throwing around Bruce Pearl and Tom Crean.
Quote : | "Will Wade may just be winning with Shaka's recruits" |
i think he recruited most of those guys while on Shaka's staff. which gets to my point kinda...yeah you can find a question mark or a point of concern in these type of guys, but we're gonna have to live with that because we aren't gonna land a coach that is 100% proven.
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HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
How about Danny Hurley at Rhode Island. He's done a nice job building back that program. If we cant get the #1 coach in the A10, maybe we should set our sights a little lower in that conference. 2/16/2017 1:31:08 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39298 Posts user info edit post |
he'd never come here for a ton of logical reasons, but I think Chris Collins is gonna be an absolute coaching giant
[Edited on February 16, 2017 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .] 2/16/2017 1:32:55 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
I think Ben Howland is a name that deserves to get floated around some, maybe about five years older than you'd want for a long term solution...also obviously has some baggage and would want time to know he's learned from his mistakes a bit 2/16/2017 1:33:41 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone know how many power 5 retreads have actually achieved any real success at a new power 5 school after getting fired? 2/16/2017 1:48:38 PM |
years25apart Veteran 216 Posts user info edit post |
I was listening to sports radio in sc yesterday and they were throwing the name frank martin around. They said he's sick of the lack of support the fans are showing the program. 2/16/2017 2:02:55 PM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
YOU KNOW DAT GOTT? HE GONE
http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/18699074/mark-gottfried-fired-nc-state-wolfpack-coach
Quote : | "Source: Mark Gottfried fired at NC State 2:27 PM ET Jeff Goodman ESPN Insider Facebook Twitter Facebook Messenger Pinterest Email print comment NC State coach Mark Gottfried has been fired Thursday, a source told ESPN.
The Wolfpack lost 97-73 at home to the 10th-ranked Tar Heels on Tuesday. Last Saturday, they suffered a 30-point loss at bubble team Wake Forest.
Gottfried, 53, was hired by athletic director Debbie Yow in 2011 and proceeded to go to the NCAA tournament in each of his first four seasons, including a pair of Sweet 16 appearances. He had three years -- worth an estimated $2.3 million -- on his deal.
However, the Wolfpack were 16-17 last season and are 14-12 and 3-10 in ACC play this season, with a likely high lottery pick on the roster in Dennis Smith Jr." |
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GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Not seeing it being reported yet he's fired, but apparently Yow is scheduling a press conference for later today. Nevermind, I'm seeing the firing reports on twitter now.
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/nc-state-s-gottfried-will-not-return-next-season/16533628/
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JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
I'm sure he will adore the pussy down at USF 2/16/2017 2:39:20 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
This is it boys, Hold onto your butts!
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JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Think he finishes out the season and then hits the road 2/16/2017 2:42:51 PM |
sgb Veteran 415 Posts user info edit post |
If he is gonna finish out the season he should at least sky dive into Carter-Finley during the Spring Game. He never gott around to actually doing that. 2/16/2017 2:45:00 PM |
HOOPS SHALOM All American 1505 Posts user info edit post |
^I am for one last skydiving event- he owes us. 2/16/2017 2:50:08 PM |
KInge21 All American 574 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, it was a bad omen he cancelled that event. bad news. 2/16/2017 2:55:04 PM |
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LOCKED 2/16/2017 3:34:11 PM |
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