afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
smh
[Edited on December 11, 2019 at 2:06 PM. Reason : pg 11] 12/11/2019 2:06:08 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
anyways.... Chapelle was in Asheville last night and apparently is continuing to Yang people at his shows. Dave always was a Make America Think Harder kinda guy...
[Edited on December 12, 2019 at 8:08 AM. Reason : .] 12/12/2019 8:08:07 AM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Endorsed by Hasan Minhaj last night at Jimmy Fallon Show. 12/12/2019 3:23:30 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think it was an endorsement, per se. He was talking about all the candidates who have appeared on his show
[Edited on December 12, 2019 at 3:41 PM. Reason : technically, he endorsed Kamala]
12/12/2019 3:33:48 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
He hangs out with Yang more than any other candidate tho. 12/12/2019 4:07:53 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Right in the middle in the new debate poster
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[Edited on December 15, 2019 at 11:43 AM. Reason : fix ur image]
12/15/2019 5:36:07 AM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
yang is wack 12/16/2019 3:02:16 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
yak is wank 12/16/2019 3:18:12 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Dave always was a Make America Think Harder kinda guy..." |
LOL, what?
In any case, Yang will never win.12/16/2019 6:53:05 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Yang is a freak, geek and mania of politics. 12/16/2019 8:09:40 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I was at WalMart when I ran into a fellow @AndrewYang supporter we got to talking about how his apparel sparks conversations. He was next up at the self checkout for the card only and he paid for a lady’s detergent, who didn’t know it was card only. I love the #yanggang #raleigh" |
Local Yang Gang is in action.12/17/2019 2:56:05 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Andrew Yang draws contrasts with rest of field on new health care plan The businessman said he supports the "spirit" of Medicare for All. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/andrew-yang-draws-contrasts-rest-field-health-care/story?id=67766942
https://www.yang2020.com/blog/a-new-way-forward-for-healthcare-in-america/
so he "supports medicare for all" but doesn't really
his single payer page is gone? has he given up on single payer entirely? am i reading this right that his plan doesn't even include a public option? even biden has public option (which i'm not advocating for), is yang still just depending entirely on private insurance?
Quote : | "Explore ways to reduce the burden of healthcare on employers, including by giving employees the option to enroll in Medicare for All instead of an employer-provided healthcare plan." |
he has this on his page, but from the page i have no idea what "medicare for all" actually means to yang.
[Edited on December 18, 2019 at 3:12 PM. Reason : single payer]12/18/2019 2:56:41 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
holding further comment for now, but I'll just post the opening paragraphs of that post
Quote : | " We are having the wrong conversation on healthcare.
Instead of addressing the underlying problems driving unaffordability and access, we Democrats are spending all our time arguing over who is the most zealous in wanting to cover Americans. Over who has wanted to do so longer. Over who cares more about the health of Americans.
We talk about how we’re going to pay for it, but the reality is we’re already paying for it. We pay for it when we can’t switch jobs. We pay for it when new jobs are temp or gig jobs that don’t provide healthcare. We pay for it when all of our prices are higher. We pay for it when healthcare costs drive us into bankruptcy.
To be clear, I support the spirit of Medicare for All, and have since the first day of this campaign. I do believe that swiftly reformatting 18% of our economy and eliminating private insurance for millions of Americans is not a realistic strategy, so we need to provide a new way forward on healthcare for all Americans.1
As Democrats, we all believe in healthcare as a human right. We all want to make sure there is universal affordable coverage. We know we have a broken healthcare system where Americans spend more money on healthcare to worse results. But, we are spending too much time fighting over the differences between Medicare for All, “Medicare for All Who Want It,” and ACA expansion when we should be focusing on the biggest problems that are driving up costs and taking lives.
We need to be laser focused on how to bring the costs of coverage down by solving the root problems plaguing the American healthcare system. " |
Aside from that conversation, it appears we have another "influencer endorsement"
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shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
He's everywhere
12/18/2019 4:46:15 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's what I posted -- but what the hell does medicare for all mean to him?
i previously thought he supported some form of single payer, but that seems to have disappeared?
later in that same link he has the part i quoted:
Quote : | "Explore ways to reduce the burden of healthcare on employers, including by giving employees the option to enroll in Medicare for All instead of an employer-provided healthcare plan" |
but earlier he said he didn't really support medicare for all as a practical matter, so what does medicare for all mean for yang in that quote?
does it mean public option (if you have private insurance you don't have to pay anything towards medicare)? is this medicare for all and everyone will pay for it but private insurance is still allowed to exist? this is not an insignificant difference and i can't tell which is his position.
it seems like it's maybe a public option, but that doesn't square with his arguments (or is it not his argument?) for why the freedom dividend should go to everyone including the rich.
so, does yang support single payer? public option? the status quo private system with the incremental changes on his website? he has somehow made his healthcare plan less clear, not more clear12/18/2019 5:01:11 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
enjoy the debate tonight...just a reminder
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dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Will he clarify if he supports single payer, public option, or a system where everyone supports single payer but private insurance still exists? 12/19/2019 6:01:04 PM |
shoot All American 7611 Posts user info edit post |
I have to say--Yang in there! He's NOT qualified for the next round yet. 12/20/2019 4:44:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Big, if true https://twitter.com/ChrisStephensMD/status/1208190988310605824?s=19 12/21/2019 8:03:27 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
haha I see it. could be worse body language I suppose
some signs that things are starting to happen in Iowa. of a group of undecided voters one of the Iowa news stations has been following for a few months, every single one of them lists Yang on their short list of who they're most interested in
https://whotv.com/2019/12/20/with-more-than-a-12-pack-of-choices-undecideds-want-beer-with-yang/
[Edited on December 21, 2019 at 10:27 AM. Reason : .] 12/21/2019 10:25:24 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
with the field at this point, aren't most candidates on most people's short list? 12/21/2019 11:21:31 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27840 Posts user info edit post |
I would vote for him if he did scenes from a hat. 12/21/2019 11:46:30 AM |
horosho Suspended 2001 Posts user info edit post |
The night of the debate I heard a lot of noise coming from the roof of my building (like a straight up college rager). I asked some guys smoking cigarettes outside what was going on and they said it was andrew yang's camapgign having an event. Why were yall so happy? 12/21/2019 1:02:22 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
My so who doesn’t spend her time all day on twitter and Reddit like I do likes Yang the best based on the debates and news media.
She basically orders everything from amazon and feels bad because she knows it’s displacing jobs and revenues from local economies, but it’s too convenient. Yang is the only candidate who has a solution to this problem. No other policy would allow the amount of revenue to flow to rural areas like yang’s.
This would be transformative for the suburbs and rural areas and any other community that gets overlooked for government investments. 12/21/2019 1:31:47 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
she also chose you though, so take her decision making process with a huge grain of salt 12/21/2019 5:53:13 PM |
LastInACC All American 1843 Posts user info edit post |
i said it once and ill say it again...
"Does your Yang hang low does it wobble to the floow?" 12/23/2019 8:26:00 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Raleigh-Durham YangGang putting in that work lately!
Got another RT from the candidate. We've made and are distributing around 20k of these
https://twitter.com/hyperlink/status/1209570789038710784
plus, we're now 4th in net favorability following last week's debate
[Edited on December 24, 2019 at 5:00 PM. Reason : .] 12/24/2019 4:58:38 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
my freaking left of center stepdad is now becoming a yang person. i told him i don't have anything personal against yang, its just that most of his supporters on my facebook act like they are super bipartisan type folks, when in reality most favor the right and just want an excuse to tell their friends they support a democrat because they are so ashamed of trump.
the convo started:
him: " you know who i'm really starting to like??" me:" oh god, let me guess...yang??" him: "yeah...I think he really understands how technology will affect US in the future" 12/24/2019 5:07:04 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " when in reality most favor the right" |
can you elaborate on what this means to you and why it's an important consideration. don't we WANT people to vote for Democrats (or against Trump at least?) no matter what their past choices or beliefs have been? what's the use in looking down on these people who are now willing to vote differently?
most Americans are tired of the constant political warfare between the Democrats and Republicans. the parties spend more time fighting each other than doing anything meaningful for the American people. and they have been very successful at dividing us against each other over ideology and other issues.
people are sick of it and it shows in the numbers. rejecting the false dichotomies of today's politics is a big part of why Yang's platform has been successful, and why he's drawing support from across the traditional party and ideological spectrum.
[Edited on December 24, 2019 at 5:22 PM. Reason : .]12/24/2019 5:20:21 PM |
mellocj All American 1872 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " don't we WANT people to vote for Democrats (or against Trump at least?) no matter what their past choices or beliefs have been? what's the use in looking down on these people who are now willing to vote differently?" |
I can't speak for StTexan but my guess is that there is some concern that if Yang is the democratic candidate, then things may fall apart since he isn't backed by the democratic party machine. He acts more like an independent (IMO), so the democratic base might not be able to rally behind him and get mass voter turnout
Personally I like him since he isn't establishment and seems to speak logic. I just find it hard to see the democratic party system getting behind him - but somehow trump won under a similar scenario. /shrug12/25/2019 11:59:53 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Yang has the same problem as Biden, they propagate the fantasy that somehow Republicans will work with them
Yang spends alot of time :bothsides:ing 12/26/2019 12:45:49 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
I mean, I don't think Yang or any of the other candidates believe the Republicans will experience a post-Trump 'epiphany' as Biden said and immediately start cooperating with Democrats.
But if we operate on the belief that there is 0% chance that the Republicans will work at all with a Democrat President, then what are we even having an election for? Won't matter whether it's Biden, Bernie, Warren, Yang or anybody else. None of their platforms would be achievable. So are we just going to give up?
At least for Yang, the Freedom Dividend is more bipartisan than many other proposals coming from Democrats. It's more akin to Social Security, which has VERY high public opinion approval, and which both parties claim to champion for their constituencies. 12/26/2019 2:27:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
So are we pretending that the Obama administration didnt happen? No republicans will help a Democrat advance their agenda, that's our reality.
That doesnt mean that support across party lines is bad, for example Sanders' populist message (despite making no sacrifices to appeal to the right) will appeal to people across party lines and similarly so will Yang, but Yang is okay with the parts of the right that really hurt Sanders in the past (let's call it the reddit/4chan right).
Yang appeals to a coalition similar to the Ron Paul coalition, which to me doesnt seem like a good base to make changes.
Also I'm still not clear on Yang's healthcare position even after spending time on the Yang subreddit, it appears that even Yang supporters are confused with regards to where Yang stands on M4A, a "public option" or a no string public option 12/26/2019 2:47:14 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So are we pretending that the Obama administration didnt happen? No republicans will help a Democrat advance their agenda, that's our reality." |
What the GOP did to obstruct the Obama administration still makes me extremely sad and frustrated. My hope at this point is that the divisiveness between the parties has reached such a boiling point with the American people that it simply won't be sustainable during the next administration for this to continue the way it has the last decade. I believe the number of GOP retirements is a reflection of this turning point in the Republican party. I believe Bernie's appeal to be reflective of this same boiling point for Democrats. But whereas Bernie and his supporters (and much of the left frankly) have taken the #NoMiddleGround stance, I believe the rising support that Yang is seeing is rooted in a different reaction to this problem in the country. People are sick of the political divisiveness in this country, and the "Not Left, Not Right. Forward." approach signals a desire to move past all the fighting and start focusing on getting things done again. Again, I don't think it's gonna be all flowers and sunshine once Trump is out, but I think the American people are looking for an option that pulls us back from the brink, before our democracy self-destructs. and a timely reddit comment on this theme
Quote : | "Yang is okay with the parts of the right that really hurt Sanders in the past (let's call it the reddit/4chan right)." |
still holding on to this smear from March, huh?
Quote : | "Also I'm still not clear on Yang's healthcare position even after spending time on the Yang subreddit, it appears that even Yang supporters are confused with regards to where Yang stands on M4A, a "public option" or a no string public option" |
I get the lack of clarity, I do. I can't say much to counter this confusion aside from what has already been posted, but this section of his 10 hour Q&A is a good summary of his plan. The first 30 minutes of the video have a lot of additional context as well.
[Edited on December 27, 2019 at 5:08 PM. Reason : .]12/26/2019 3:16:54 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "still holding on to this smear from March, huh?" |
Well he did go on tucker Carlson in march
Then Shapiro in april
Then rubin in Junes12/26/2019 3:56:18 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
and did he make those media appearances to promote alt-right viewpoints or did he talk about HIS OWN platform which has nothing to do with the elements of Tucker, Shapiro or Rubin's viewpoints that you find blacklist-worthy? 12/26/2019 4:29:32 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
I don't know how much time did you he spend refuting their white supremacists worldview? Or did he ask for their support without attempting to challenge or change those alt right views?
And you're right, I'm probably being fascist for "blacklisting" Tucker "white replacement" Carlson, Ben "Arabs belong in sewage" Shapiro, and Dave "racial sciences" Rubin 12/26/2019 5:37:09 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
I hate it when Christians leave fake money with bible verses on them and this isn’t much better
12/26/2019 5:45:49 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
haha yeah I get that. at least in this case if we elect Andrew Yang people will start getting real $1000s.
There's a bunch of different designs we've distributed. I like these business cards best
12/26/2019 8:06:41 PM |
LaserSoup All American 5503 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "haha yeah I get that. at least in this case if we elect Andrew Yang people will start getting real $1000s." |
Yeah, like free money and stuff. Imagine that.12/27/2019 12:24:05 AM |
utowncha All American 900 Posts user info edit post |
i want $1000. 12/27/2019 8:49:47 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
I want you all to have $1000 12/27/2019 9:34:30 AM |
Geppetto All American 2157 Posts user info edit post |
I, too, received one of those fake dollars.
I was about to make a joke that if he paid me the real $1000, then he would get my vote. but I realized in thinking about it that I wouldn't actually sell my vote and am curious if anyone who takes the time to vote actually would. 12/27/2019 2:48:01 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
is that a one of these reactions?
12/27/2019 3:13:38 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
for dtownral, from today's meet and greet in SC. same thing he said about M4A in the video I posted above
12/27/2019 5:02:27 PM |
BubbleBobble Super Duper Veteran 114363 Posts user info edit post |
it's not my thing so let it gooo 12/27/2019 7:38:27 PM |
StTexan Suggestions??? 7148 Posts user info edit post |
Glad he ended boycott of MSNBC 12/28/2019 12:07:20 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
My $1000 would go into savings or a casino... 12/28/2019 11:26:20 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Before the how is your year thread I don't think I knew qtn actually worked for the campaign (not to say he hasn't mentioned it here or elsewhere but I haven't seen it) . Is this thread an official campaign advertisement? 12/28/2019 12:30:58 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
I'm Andrew Yang and I approve brentroad.com and all comments, opinions, and content therein. 12/28/2019 1:36:23 PM |