NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
9 mm isn't even worth reloading imo. especially on a single stage. i could see cranking out thousands a year on a progressive. 7/14/2011 11:09:49 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
i couldnt help but laugh when the guy in the video said "thats when my training took over"
LOL 7/14/2011 11:26:58 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Glock Sport Shooting Foundation match in Oxford, NC October 29th and 30th. I should be able to take off work those days and attend... Anyone else?
http://gssfonline.com/registration.cfm
October 29 - 30, 2011 Oxford, North Carolina The Range Tarheel State Regional Classic XV 7/18/2011 9:54:30 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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I'll be there. I'll shoot in three categories. 7/18/2011 10:18:27 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
^ lol i just texted you yo
Something I haven't found yet via searching, will my "modified" KKM barrel be an issue?
[Edited on July 18, 2011 at 10:31 PM. Reason : .] 7/18/2011 10:30:31 PM |
MaximaDrvr
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yes, you will need to put back in your stock barrel, or you will be put in the mod class against race guns. 7/18/2011 11:36:33 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I'll be shooting factory 180gr Federal loads then 7/19/2011 12:33:19 AM |
hershculez All American 8483 Posts user info edit post |
Picked up a Hi Point 995 today. Wanted a carbine that I can put a bunch of rounds through and not spend a ton. Soverign has boxes of 1000 9 mm for $220 so it was right up my alley. Already have a couple 9 mm pistols.
[Edited on July 20, 2011 at 7:16 PM. Reason : df] 7/20/2011 7:15:35 PM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
how are hi-point carbines? 7/22/2011 3:14:00 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
you get what you pay for 7/22/2011 3:30:28 PM |
mech Veteran 207 Posts user info edit post |
I reload 9mm!!! But, I'm in Greenville. And, I do have a turret, my last 1,000 I loaded cost me $85.00 v $200+ you would pay retail... I also load for minimum PF for competition though too, which you cant buy in a store. 7/22/2011 5:09:19 PM |
DoubleDown All American 9382 Posts user info edit post |
Looking at getting a Noveske N4, any of you AR guys have much experience with one? 7/22/2011 7:13:00 PM |
mech Veteran 207 Posts user info edit post |
I have to Novenske, the only advice I can give though is don't overpay. Just like every other gun, you can get them way below retail. I got mine off of gunbroker for less than I paid for my RockRiver. 7/22/2011 8:02:43 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Damn.... My current 1,000 .40 reload is running me $180. Cheapest factory I could find (after taxes) is $330 at walmart. 7/24/2011 3:58:18 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
I just recently took the concealed and carry course, so I am now in the market to buy my first ever pistol. I've been a hunter my whole life and own several shotguns/rifles, but have never owned a pistol nor do I know anything about different makes/models/brands/calibers.
I'm looking to purchase two pistols: 1) Carrying revolver for protection. Probably hammerless single-action. I'm open to a semi-automatic instead here. Would prefer a smaller pistol that could fit in my pockets. 2) A sport shooting pistol. Wide open to suggestions here. Don't need anything huge, but just something fun to shoot at the range.
[Edited on July 25, 2011 at 10:17 AM. Reason : Took Rush's class] 7/25/2011 10:13:49 AM |
Bobby Light All American 2650 Posts user info edit post |
CC - I carry a Ruger LCP (pocket pistol). If I wanted a hammerless revolver though, I'd go with the Ruger LCR.
Sporting - take your pick. My favorite was my Sig P226 9mm. Great gun and super comfortable in my hand. 7/25/2011 10:17:43 AM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
LCR is a good gun, as is the S&W 642 (which is my primary CC) 7/25/2011 10:44:06 AM |
mech Veteran 207 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Look at my post in the classifieds. I have both for sale. A LC9 for CC and an XD40 which is an awesome range gun! 7/25/2011 12:22:24 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ and ^^ LCR looks perfect for my CC. Thanks for that! ^ Thank you as well. I'm new to the market so I'll get back to ya after I've done my fair share of shopping around/learning. 7/25/2011 1:40:56 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i like the S&W J-frame better than the LCR. it's about the same thing, but it feels better in my hand to me. i would try both. 7/25/2011 3:09:49 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
I just got a S&W bodyguard 380 as my new concealed weapon, and I love it so far, it shoots great. The built-in laser is worthless for defense situations, but can be fun at the range as long as you are a good shooter and dont rely on it to be able to hit the target. 7/25/2011 3:22:04 PM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
The only handgun I've ever shot was a .45 How would you rank the amount of "kick" for each type of popular handgun caliber?
[Edited on July 25, 2011 at 4:16 PM. Reason : .] 7/25/2011 4:14:33 PM |
Air Half American 772 Posts user info edit post |
generally, the bigger the number the more kick.
weight of the weapon being fired also has alot to do with the "kick" IE a LCP is only a .380, but its small size gives considerable (IMHO) kick. My PK380 has lot less kick even with the same caliber, since it has more mass. 7/25/2011 5:24:32 PM |
catzor All American 1749 Posts user info edit post |
That's really, really imprecise advice. The answer is that there isn't a simple one. The only rule that is simple and always true is that the heavier the gun, the more recoil it will absorb. Outside of that, bullet weight, powder charge, powder speed, action type, muzzle blast, muzzle flash, and noise all affect perceived recoil. The diameter of the projectile has virtually nothing to do with the equation. Recoil can vary greatly even within the same bullet size. Take a .32 for instance. You can push an 85gr slug at 600fps in a .32 S&W (barely any recoil at all), to 1700fps or better in a .327 magnum(one hell of slap on the palm). Same bullet size, same bullet weigh, same bullet diameter, greatly different recoil. Basically, you just have to learn your cartridges if you want to have any idea about what sort of recoil to expect. 7/25/2011 6:08:21 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
^+1
Also depends on the firearm. Glock's new 4th gen G23 (Compact 40) has quite less recoil than the Gen 3. My dad's Taurus 92FS 9mm has just as much, if not more, recoil than the new Glock G23 .40 compact. (I've shot them both back to back). Rent a few guns, get a feel of them and see what works best for you 7/25/2011 6:14:27 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
My two cents:
CC - LCR or LCP (I have the LCP (prefer semi to revolver); and it doesn't really have much kick at all, IMHO).
Fun gun - Springfield XD or XDm depending on your tastes/budget. I have a XD40 and absolutely love it. 7/25/2011 6:20:58 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
The LCP is a great gun backup gun or pocket gun if you can't carry anything else. There sights on it suck, incredibly. Add a long, heavy trigger onto a very light gun and you've got a firearm that's going to be difficult to shoot accurately in certain emergency situations. It is most definitely a <10yd point and shoot gun, maybe 15 yards if you train frequently with it. .380 ammo is pretty pricey for what it is though. Cheapest is about $16/box 50? In addition, stopping power is quite a bit lower from a 9mm or .40. The LCP is going to take more time and discipline to shoot accurate and comfortably. It doesn't have a lot of kick, but it does snap.
I don't say this to scare anyone from the gun as it is after all just my opinion/take on the firearm after having fired one. I'm glad they make it and it most definitely has a unique niche. However, as a primary CC, it's lacking. The LCR is a great firearm in terms or accuracy and firepower in a tight package. The LCR, pardon the pun, is great bang-for-buck and firepower relative to it's size in comparison to the LCP. Of course, get something you are more opt to carrying consistently and that fits your burdening limits/comfort. Try 'em all out
Fun Gun- Obligatory Glock or Springfield XD9 or XD40. Always wanted to shoot a Sig (Especially P228 compact), but have yet to
[Edited on July 25, 2011 at 8:19 PM. Reason : .] 7/25/2011 8:13:31 PM |
hkrock All American 1014 Posts user info edit post |
Glocks and XDs are excellent entry level firearms (and advanced level too, I have a heavily modded XD, and a partially modded glock and shoot them both very well.)
To quote Larry Vickers: If you treat your guns like your lawnmower, buy a glock. 7/25/2011 8:21:20 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
Recommend a 9mm AR for me. 7/25/2011 10:27:16 PM |
JK All American 6839 Posts user info edit post |
I have an LCR I'd consider selling btw
great gun, but I ended up with an H&K P2000sk instead 7/25/2011 11:09:30 PM |
mcaflo All American 1429 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I have a Rock River upper/Spikes lower 9mm that is awesome. Now Spikes is doing their own 9mm uppers so I would definitely check those out.
^I also carry a P2000SK but even that is a little bulky at times. How/where do you carry yours? Would you be willing to let me try out the LCR?
[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 12:21 AM. Reason : s] 7/26/2011 12:20:48 AM |
Nashattack All American 7022 Posts user info edit post |
I was going to ask the same thing.... Does anyone have a LCR that I could put a few rounds through? 7/26/2011 12:11:19 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on July 26, 2011 at 1:57 PM. Reason : nvm]
7/26/2011 1:56:15 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
^^I would suggest comparing it with the S&W too... I (personally) think the trigger on the LCR is a little smoother, but the feel of the S&W is a little better for me- over all, I'd be happy with either, but you should definitely give both a shot (pun intended ) 7/27/2011 10:30:46 AM |
Brandon1 All American 1630 Posts user info edit post |
I have an LCP, and really just dont do very well with it (its the one Hiro mentioned, neither of us could shoot it well). I saw Kahr's CM9 as a cheaper alternative to the PM9, and it looks pretty damn small, and running about $440 at local shops.
However, I went and held one the other day and since I'm used to pocket carry with the LCP, thats what I want to stick with if at all possible. The CM9 could be pocket carried in cargo pants/shorts, but not jeans or slacks. I saw right next to it the new Diamondback DB9, and saw that it was around $390 and fit in the same pocket holster as my LCP.
Pocket carry is pretty easy in all pants, and I shoot it much better than my LCP. Where with the LCP the long trigger and anticipation made me pull most shots low unless I was concentrating very hard on the trigger pull (ie: not a defensive situation), the DB9 I can hit the target, and it is fairly accurate.
BUT, I dont know if its just my large fingers, or just the way the gun is, but my trigger finger skin gets caught between the trigger and trigger guard on the reset and pinches it, making it very uncomforatable to shoot. Any suggestions on how to solve this? Maybe just go back to the LCP or man up and get the CM9 and just do IWB carry? 7/27/2011 11:26:12 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I pull low on my LCP when going slow/trying to be accurate. I can normally hit a sub 3" group within 2-4" of my target @ 7yd when rapid firing.
[Edited on July 27, 2011 at 12:45 PM. Reason : 7yd I think... idk 5-7yd maybe] 7/27/2011 12:45:21 PM |
wolfpack0122 All American 3129 Posts user info edit post |
Just wanted to pop in here and tell everyone I just ran into http://www.thebeltman.net at the grocery store and talked with him for a min. Very nice guy and invited me out to his place to check it out sometime. I wish I had his belt on when I met him, but since its so hot, I wasn't wearing it and he wasn't wearing one either. He was just pocket carrying something 7/27/2011 6:53:31 PM |
dave421 All American 1391 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Thousands of people pocket carry the PM9 in jeans. CM9 is the same size so I don't see the issue. Is it just the cut of your jeans that's causing the issue or is it possible that you're being too picky about it (i.e. like the first week we all have our concealed permit and think everyone is looking at us)? 7/27/2011 7:14:24 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
[link]http://http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/26/ohio-cop-curses-out-gun-owner_n_910367.html#s316288&title=Rodney_King_Beating[/link]
Wow just wow. 7/27/2011 9:37:04 PM |
jtw208 5290 Posts user info edit post |
Wow.
I'm wondering if there's anything the driver could have done differently.
Apparently that officer had 15 other complaints investigated by internal affairs... Time for him to find another job 7/27/2011 10:17:29 PM |
Hiro All American 4673 Posts user info edit post |
Wow. That officer was way out of line. I would have spoken up and mentioned the permit while the other officer was in the back seat for sure, regardless of the threats to take my ass to jail if I said anything at all. Something along the lines of: "I have a concealed carry permit and am currently carrying on my right side hip."
If it were me, I wouldn't have said as much after being detained and I probably would have been a victim to police brutality because there's no way someone's going to talk shit like that to my face. There is NEVER a professional reason to have the tone of language displayed by the officer, ever. He was beyond out of line and should be terminated immediately.
[Edited on July 28, 2011 at 2:26 AM. Reason : .] 7/28/2011 2:24:36 AM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
any preferred FFLs around NCSU/south raleigh/garner? planning on ordering a gun online 7/28/2011 9:20:36 AM |
JK All American 6839 Posts user info edit post |
For anyone that wants to try and LCR in .38sp, I wouldn't mind meeting someone at a range somewhere. 7/29/2011 5:54:27 PM |
FenderFreek All American 2805 Posts user info edit post |
^^I have used PDHSC several times. Not real cheap, but they are easy to work with and have always been good about communication in my experience. $30/ea IIRC. 7/29/2011 9:00:01 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
I've always used PDHSC too for FFL. they're quick and easy to deal with. 7/29/2011 9:59:12 PM |
Biofreak70 All American 33197 Posts user info edit post |
I've heard that Jim's Gunshop is a little cheaper, but he is hit or miss about letting you know when your gun is in 7/30/2011 1:38:52 PM |
quagmire02 All American 44225 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, i called jim's and he's only $20 7/30/2011 2:11:13 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^ Thousands of people pocket carry the PM9 in jeans. CM9 is the same size so I don't see the issue. Is it just the cut of your jeans that's causing the issue or is it possible that you're being too picky about it (i.e. like the first week we all have our concealed permit and think everyone is looking at us)?" |
I pocket carry my PM9 with no trouble at all. Great little gun.
[Edited on July 30, 2011 at 2:30 PM. Reason : .]7/30/2011 2:30:02 PM |
kylekatern All American 3291 Posts user info edit post |
I pocket carry a KelTec P32. I tried the 380, tried the PF9, even had the P11. Have also tried a XD subcompact. So far, I prefer the 32 with a wallet holster for being a 'pocket carry invisible in any pants' gun, and I can always OC the 40 or another 'real' gun. 7/30/2011 2:32:45 PM |
gtherman All American 628 Posts user info edit post |
Nvm....
[Edited on July 31, 2011 at 7:33 PM. Reason : .] 7/31/2011 7:24:48 PM |