Lead riders of Stage 3 2009 Tour of California:

Team Astana and Lance Armstrong (Yellow-Black Helmet):


For the last two weeks I've been shooting sports for the first time. A lot of fun! For the Tour you really need something like the 1D Mk III b/c the cyclist go by crazy fast. I thought I was going to upgrade my 350d to a 450d but I might consider the 50d now.

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 9:29 PM. Reason : x]

2/17/2009 9:28:05 PM

Yeah the 50D will probably be my next purchase.

2/17/2009 9:32:15 PM

It'd be worth it over any of the rebel bodies, honestly.

2/17/2009 10:04:26 PM

hey, I got a lightroom trial, and am using it for the first time.

I'm liking it a lot, I have no idea if i'm using it right. I'm editing the photos in lightroom then switching over to PS and editing them there some. Then I'm converting to 8bit so I can save as jpg. They save fine and look fine on my comp, but when I UL'd them to flickr, they all look really desaturated or something. looking at the files on my computer and on flickr side by side, the difference is drastic and insane. WHAT"S UP?

I'm sure it's something n00bish with all the program switching and bits/channel shit.

[Edited on February 17, 2009 at 10:25 PM. Reason : .]

2/17/2009 10:24:09 PM

color space. When you view pictures online, most browsers only view jpeg in the sRGB color space. Most of the time, your camera, photoshop and lightroom has a default setting of using the AdobeRGB color space. The sRGB is a really limited color gamut and really only necessary for publish for online, you still can print from it, but you end up throwing away a number of values from the AdobeRGB. AdobeRGB handles a lot more "usable" space, specially for print.

My workflow usually exports jpeg's in AdobeRGB, but when I publish for web, I convert them to sRGB into a new folder, this way I have the original export for print work. I probably have 3-4 copies of the same image. Original, Edited (or corrected), Edited/Exported (manipulated for print or digitally altered for client), and web publish (resized, color space, logo). I also have another folder for unprocessed source files that didn't make the first or second edits as well as small web proofs for clients.

2/18/2009 1:15:23 AM

I figured it out, I wasn't "exporting" from lightroom or something, I was just sending everything over to photoshop and saving from there.

^yeah

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 1:49 AM. Reason : .]

2/18/2009 1:48:55 AM

Out of these three, which one do you like best?

2/18/2009 1:03:42 PM

none of them

2/18/2009 1:04:56 PM

none of them

2/18/2009 1:07:38 PM

Quote :

"none of them "

2/18/2009 1:09:32 PM

ok....then lemme ask like this...lightest, medium, or darkest.

2/18/2009 1:11:17 PM

for what?

2/18/2009 1:12:38 PM

what a bunch of dickheads, with the "none of them"

bunch of fucking jackleg photographers talking down on someone asking an opinion

the darkest one looks the best to me

2/18/2009 1:14:03 PM

I was just curious what/why he was asking.

2/18/2009 1:15:23 PM

doesnt look like you said "none of them", my e-rage wasnt directed at you

2/18/2009 1:16:06 PM

I kinda like the dark one too....

No reason...Sometimes I have trouble deciding which pic I like if I have alot that are similar. Thought I'd get some other opinions...

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM. Reason : ..]

2/18/2009 1:16:08 PM

to me it looked like an original, an "auto-fix" button, and a manual tweak

2/18/2009 1:21:26 PM

strictly shutter speed....im not smart enough to do all that other shit

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 1:22 PM. Reason : .]

2/18/2009 1:22:29 PM

Bunch of over opinionated pricks on this site. People who like to be assholes for the shit of it regardless of the sincerity of the poster asking for help.

2/18/2009 1:23:34 PM

Sometimes being honest means being an asshole.

Some people aren't able or willing to accept that truth.

2/18/2009 1:25:06 PM

its not that technical. just get something like picasa and check it out. all my relatives use that to tweak their photos, and they're really really not "computer smart"

^how are you being honest? you didnt even answer the question he asked. if you did, and then talked shit, you might have a leg to stand on. this just makes you a shitbag, really.

2/18/2009 1:25:43 PM

If you like the sharpen feature, don't get picasa. When saving pictures, it doesn't save any work you've done with the sharpening tool. It's a known issue, and they have no plans to fix it

Photoscape is what I switched to.

If you've never used sharpen and don't know what I'm talking about, start off with picasa, for sure.

2/18/2009 1:26:58 PM

yea picasa is very noob friendly, its just like that commercial on tv where the 4 year old emails pics to her mom

2/18/2009 1:28:04 PM

You know the fucking difference between being helpful and being a complete twat and you three posters were being twats.

2/18/2009 1:28:06 PM

he asked which one we liked....i dont like any of them
nothing dickish about that

he wanted opinions so i gave him mine

2/18/2009 1:29:21 PM

I like the one with the cross and the chair.

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 1:30 PM. Reason : and]

2/18/2009 1:30:11 PM

nope, he gave 3 choices... a, b, and c

asked which you liked best.

inventing a D is just shitty

2/18/2009 1:30:12 PM

Quote :

"Sometimes being honest means being an asshole. Some people aren't able or willing to accept that truth."

I agree with ambrosia.

The users saying "none of them" were stating their opinion. They don't have to like the photos. If you don't want to hear what others have to say then don't ask or don't share. Just shut the fuck up Kiwi. No one that regularly posts in this thread really has a problem except you.

Do you have Photoshop, TragicNature? If so, I'd pull up the image and edit using curves, you'll be able to bring some detail back into the shadows and highlights.

2/18/2009 1:30:13 PM

Obviously he meant of the three, he didn't ask about composition or how the photo could be done differently, he wanted to know which one was "best" of those three

GOD DAMN CHITLUNS

2/18/2009 1:30:23 PM

Quote :

"^how are you being honest? you didnt even answer the question he asked. if you did, and then talked shit, you might have a leg to stand on. this just makes you a shitbag, really."

Because I didn't like a single one of them. And I said so.
I answered his question.
If he wants more feedback, or more specific feedback, he'll ask for it. I would hope.

So far, he's being a better poster in this thread than either you or kiwi, because he's not being a defensive, butthurt asshole, and actually seems interested in further criticism.

2/18/2009 1:31:08 PM

2/18/2009 1:31:34 PM

Reading comprehension ftl.

:carl face:

2/18/2009 1:32:10 PM

2/18/2009 1:33:43 PM

Forgot this thread was in chit chat

2/18/2009 1:44:05 PM

Working with jpgs blows. Have a raw by chance?

2/18/2009 3:15:24 PM

a few from the UNC game:









(post-phantom-elbowing-violation)


cut off hand




post-hansbrough-rejection

2/18/2009 3:17:39 PM

For the chair pictures. Asthetically, I don't like any of them as well. Technically, I also don't like any of them, but the best exposed frame is the 1st one (minus the lens flare). The perspective if bland and the subject's position is boring as hell. I would have used the cross as the dominate feature of the picture since anything that poses as a symbol is graphically powerful to the eye and a cross is very powerful.

^those bball pics are getting better, nice on 3 and 4.

2/18/2009 6:44:48 PM

New tilt-shift lenses from Canon.

TS-E 24mm f/3.5L $2199


TS-E 17mm f/4L $2499


I want one so bad, but that's a lot of cash to drop on a short lens. Or any lens, for that matter.

2/19/2009 11:59:07 AM

I'm selling my D40 body. holler if you're interested.

2/19/2009 12:21:52 PM

that shit^^ looks complicated

2/19/2009 12:27:52 PM

2/19/2009 4:08:33 PM

^that last picture looks almost 3d to me.

2/19/2009 5:39:48 PM

I love the notion but the hot spot is bothering me.

2/19/2009 6:18:24 PM

^6 ZOMG, Do Want both lenses

2/20/2009 1:16:42 AM

i decided not to get the d40 and 300 2.8.

instead I checked out a canon 300mm 4.0 L.

going to borrow my suitemate's xsi and use that and mine with the 70-200 f/2.8 for the baseball games i guess.

2/20/2009 1:49:55 AM

I heard the 1st 24mm TS was very soft, I guess that's what they fixed on the 2nd one, but damn... those prices are crazy expensive for TS.

2/20/2009 2:26:39 AM

what's the advantage/product of a tilt-shift lens?

[Edited on February 20, 2009 at 2:47 AM. Reason : google is my friend]

2/20/2009 2:43:26 AM

Check it out, i'm published!

http://www.schmap.com/brisbane/toppicks_attractions/p=128538/i=128538_17.jpg

Too bad its just schmap, but its still sorta cool. Pretty boring pic too. *shrug*

2/20/2009 9:40:50 PM

set up some cool pics

2/20/2009 10:07:27 PM

I was going to buy a Nikon D80 since theyre pretty cheap used now.. $400 for a used body... But a D90 is calling my name for $850ish with a lot of improvements... gah.

2/22/2009 6:30:08 PM