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5/11/2009 3:55:35 PM

"Conference's Most Pointless Thread"

5/11/2009 4:04:54 PM

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"somebody on wolfpackhoops posted an anonymous message that john wall was going to be commiting in the next 48-72 hrs. i would normally disregard it, but wolfpackhoops commented on it and allowed it to stay posted. guess we'll see how good their sources really are. 5/6/2009 3:43:29 PM"

5/11/2009 4:29:27 PM

I don't think you can hold an anonymous comment against them.

5/11/2009 4:30:50 PM

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"I know Maryland has [James] Padgett and another dude coming in. NC State has two bigs coming in, and I know they need me bad. Like I said, I just have to sit down and look at it with my family."

[Edited on May 11, 2009 at 4:42 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2009 4:32:48 PM

^^Oh, I wasn't.

I just was reminded of that on account of someone having some anonymous shenanigans over at PP in the recruiting thread.

5/11/2009 4:35:17 PM

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"ive seen people state that evans is a miserable fucker IRL multiple times, then again it could just be this guy saying it over and over"

Said it once on PP, and once here. That's it.

5/11/2009 4:37:01 PM

The PP article makes it sound like we're neck-and-neck with Maryland. Whoever can offer him the most PT sounds like they'll get him. We have plenty to give if he'll come and compete for it.

5/11/2009 4:52:11 PM

He would get immediate playing time at the 5 behind Smith. This would be really good for us, b/c we could then redshirt Vandenberg and allow him to develop over 5 years. I think having JV for as a fully developed 5th year senior would be more beneficial to the program than to throw him to the wolves right away as a freshman.

5/11/2009 5:00:07 PM

I don't think you'd redshirt JV. If we got Painter, we would have 5 guys to swap around between the 4&5 spots (Horner, Smith, JV, Howell, Painter). By the start of ACC play, we could move horner out to the 3 and play tall against the ACC teams.

5/11/2009 5:15:24 PM

Will Harrow be a 5-star on rivals?

http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=944859

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"Ryan Harrow (2010 Atlanta Celtics)- This North Carolina State commitment raised his stock with Rivals.com more than any other prospect at the event. Once slated for the mid-four-star range in the soon to be released 2010, Harrow has us contemplating whether or not he is a five-star talent. In the same vein as Joe Jackson, Harrow is a slight of build guard with a whole lot of game."

5/11/2009 5:35:10 PM

We have too many wing players right now. Having CJ start at the 3 would allow Brown to start at the 2 and Javi to start at the 1. We've got to get our best players on the floor at all times, and at the end of the year Javi and CJ were some of our best players. Besides Lowe seems to do better when he only swaps a few players in. Also we would be more athletic if we kept Horner at the 4 rather than the 3. I see Jordan Vandenberg and Josh Davis being guys that having them redshirt would benefit both us and them in the long run. I personally think we're going to have to be a pretty adaptive team if we are going to compete. In some situations we may need Thomas (provided he's healthy) to log a good many minutes to help increase our rebounding ability. That guy has some ups, hits the offensive and defensive glass hard, and has a good rebounding IQ (i.e. he knows where to be and how to get there).

I see it shaking out like so:

1 - Gonzalez, Degand
2 - Brown, Mays
3 - Williams, Thomas, Wood
4 - Horner, Howell, Davis
5 - Smith, Painter (if he comes), Vandenberg

[Edited on May 11, 2009 at 5:43 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2009 5:43:10 PM

1 - Gonzalez, Mays
2 - Brown, Mays
3 - Williams, Thomas, Wood
4 - Horner, Howell, Painter
5 - Smith, Painter (if he comes)

That's how I think it would play out if Thomas can play. Painter might get about 15-20 minutes a game. Between backing up Smith and anything he might get from backing up Horner and Howell.

5/11/2009 5:49:58 PM

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"I don't think you'd redshirt JV"

If Painter comes, there's no reason not to redshirt JV. From the little we've seen, he looks way too raw to contribute.

5/11/2009 5:57:53 PM

I hadn't seen this article posted:

http://www.testudotimes.com/2009/4/18/843808/deshawn-painter-scouting-report

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"Unfortunately, there are major concerns about his effort. During games, he's mostly consistent on defense contesting shots, but his effort tends to fluctuate in practice especially. He never really progressed the way he was supposed to, which is generally a sign of poor work ethic. "

Red flags? I know it's just one [MD] guy's opinion, but still, it'd suck having any more of those (alleged) issues...

5/11/2009 6:07:58 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJDRgVwcP8

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" * If Coach tells you that I missed practice, then that's that. * I may have missed one practice this year * but if somebody says he missed one practice of all the practices this year, * then that's enough to get a whole lot started. * (Clip Jumps) * But I'm tired and I'm hurt too. * Reporter: "Could you clear about your practicing habits since we can't see you practice?" * If I can't practice, I can't practice. * It is as simple as that. It ain't about that at all. * It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about practice. * We're sitting here, and I'm supposed to be the franchise player, * and we're talking about practice. * I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about practice, not a game, * not a game, not a game, but we're talking about practice. * Not the game that I go out there and die for * and play every game like it's my last * but we're talking about practice man. * How silly is that? * Now I know that I'm supposed to lead by example and all that * but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. * I know it's important, I honestly do * but we're talking about practice. * We're talking about practice man. * (laughter from the media crowd) * We're talking about practice. * We're talking about practice. * We're not talking about the game. * We're talking about practice. * When you come to the arena, and you see me play, * you've seen me play right, * you've seen me give everything I've got, * but we're talking about practice right now. * We're talking about prac... (stops talking) * (more laughter) * Hey I hear you, it's funny to me to, hey it's strange to me too * but we're talking about practice man, * we're not even talking about the game, when it actually matters, * we're talking about practice. * Reporter: "Is it possible that if you practiced, not you but you would make your teammates better?" * Iverson: "How in the hell can I make my teammates better by practicing?"

5/11/2009 6:16:09 PM

http://www.zagsblog.com/2009/05/11/chaney-to-virginia-tech/

Former UF forward Allan Chaney is transferring to VT. This means that they are completely out of it for Painter, since they don't have anymore scholarships. They would have taken either, but Chaney chose first. St. Joe's, Providence, and Xavier were the others in the running for Chaney.

5/11/2009 7:06:38 PM

^well that is decent news

Just need him to pick us next. Definately would be a huge get and I wouldnt worry too much about the work ethic in practice. Sid will set him straight or he wont play.

5/11/2009 7:10:33 PM

So whats the story on painter? He was top 20 then dropped when ncsu became involved?

5/11/2009 7:51:44 PM

No, he was top 20 as a junior. Not as a senior.

5/11/2009 8:45:23 PM

He's 69th in this class I believe.

5/11/2009 9:04:25 PM

When did Scout upgrade Brown from the #8 SG to the #6 SG, and upgrade Howell from the #19 PF to the #16 PF? Was this awhile ago and I just didn't pay attention?

5/11/2009 10:39:27 PM

almost a month ago

5/11/2009 10:50:12 PM

^^ Scout just updated their rankings on 5/2.


[Edited on May 11, 2009 at 10:52 PM. Reason : ]

5/11/2009 10:52:00 PM

looks like wall is down to 2

http://www.zagsblog.com/

haha, poor dook

5/12/2009 12:47:02 PM

http://twitter.com/EvanDanielscout

Looks like Wall is not down to two.

5/12/2009 12:50:09 PM

god that guy is such a tool. he really seems like he doesn't give two shits about JW

5/12/2009 12:55:58 PM

ESPN Insider:

"DeShawn Painter narrows list to two

ESPNU 100 uncommitted forward DeShawn Painter visited Maryland over the weekend and has narrowed his choices to the Terps and N.C. State, eliminating Virginia Tech, according to ESPN affiliate site http://www.insidemdsports.com.

"It was great," Painter said of his visit. "First I just got down there and went to dinner and hung out at my hotel. Then on the second day I went to a baseball game and hung out with the fellas."

Painter will think over his decision this week and expects to make a decision before the spring signing period ends on May 20."

5/12/2009 11:47:37 PM

remind me to read this later http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=2&c=864428

5/13/2009 4:22:26 AM

Dave Telep says it's between us and UMD, and we have the lead

also says he'll make his decision within the next few days

5/13/2009 8:09:07 AM

^link?

5/13/2009 9:30:34 AM

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=75&f=1043&t=4314931

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 9:47 AM. Reason : .]

5/13/2009 9:46:29 AM

nice link

5/13/2009 9:57:05 AM

put 'cache:' in front of it and google it

5/13/2009 10:00:34 AM

I hate IE, but that's the only thing allowed on the computers here at work.

What's the name of the story?

5/13/2009 10:22:15 AM

By "a few days", look for it the 17th or 18th.

5/13/2009 10:38:19 AM

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fmbd.scout.com%2Fmb.aspx%3Fs%3D75%26f%3D1043%26t%3D4314931&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Try that.

5/13/2009 10:41:56 AM

The original link you posted works fine. And I am using IE.

^^ hopefully we hear something by Friday. It would be odd to announce on Sunday.

[Edited on May 13, 2009 at 11:13 AM. Reason : sdf]

5/13/2009 11:12:54 AM

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"If Painter comes, there's no reason not to redshirt JV. From the little we've seen, he looks way too raw to contribute."

agreed 100%

im surprised no one has posted the SI link about Wall
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/luke_winn/05/12/decisions/index.html?eref=T1

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"Wall's camp has yet to do any official shrinking of a list that's seven schools deep (Baylor, Duke, Florida, Kentucky, Miami, Memphis, N.C. State), but his advisor and former AAU coach, Brian Clifton, told SI.com on Monday that it would be "accurate" to assume that the race was now between Duke, Kentucky and Miami. Wall, who's the nation's No. 1 point guard prospect and could be the No. 1 pick in the 2010 draft, would give the Blue Devils the point guard they sorely need, since neither Nolan Smith, Elliott Williams or Jon Scheyer are perfectly suited for the position. The Wildcats, although they already took a commitment from five-star point guard Eric Bledsoe, could become a title contender with a starting lineup that includes Wall, Jodie Meeks, Patrick Patterson and DeMarcus Cousins. The Hurricanes, meanwhile, would be an NCAA tournament team and put themselves on the map as a destination for future, elite recruits if Wall goes on to be the program's signature alum."

5/13/2009 12:10:02 PM

Brian Clifton is a fucking pimp. It's sad what he's doing to John Wall and nobody is doing anything about it.

5/13/2009 12:13:01 PM

man, if Wall goes to duke I hope the fans lay into him

(if Duke plays at the RBC center this year, I cant remember the schedule right now)

5/13/2009 12:13:56 PM

funny how UNC fans seem to be the only ones who have major problems with Clifton

5/13/2009 12:50:20 PM

^^ I have no idea. The schedule has not been released yet. We played at Duke this past season and we played both home and away the season prior. I wish they'd just schedule it home and away automatically every season.

5/13/2009 1:00:04 PM

Duke game is at home this season.

5/13/2009 1:07:12 PM

^^^ I'd say after this debacle, NCState fans should have a problem with him as well. Admittedly, I haven't followed the whole saga that closely, but everything I have read from that assclown is downplaying us and our chances and until recently, everything I read from the mouth of John Wall at least included us in the mix if not mention us as front runners at times.

5/13/2009 1:28:23 PM

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"If Painter comes, there's no reason not to redshirt JV. From the little we've seen, he looks way too raw to contribute."

if we were going to wait for next year for a big man, we would've waited for next year for a big man.

5/13/2009 1:29:04 PM

^Well, we got JV before Painter was involved. So getting Painter would change things a little. although i don't see JV redshirting either way. How often does that happen?

5/13/2009 1:55:32 PM

Painter announcing tonight

5/13/2009 1:56:55 PM

^ source?

5/13/2009 1:58:58 PM

http://maryland.rivals.com/

5/13/2009 2:08:55 PM