^^^,^^
i'm not compromising or excusing anything else trump has done, so i'm not sure where either of you are coming from.

6/11/2018 11:38:29 AM

it's typical BS press-bait and you fell for it and gave him the credit he doesn't deserve

6/11/2018 11:51:19 AM

lol ok. move those goalposts.

6/11/2018 11:55:17 AM

https://www.npr.org/2018/06/12/619101573/ivanka-trump-and-jared-kushner-earned-more-than-80-million-last-year-filings-sho12

(public servants)

6/12/2018 10:29:13 AM

Offering concessions to North Korea while pushing away Canada. This will certainly go well.

6/12/2018 3:16:10 PM

Well, Canada poses a security threat to us....

6/12/2018 4:13:55 PM

90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of our border. They're strategically located for an invasion of the US.

6/12/2018 4:53:40 PM

wtf is happening in this thread

6/12/2018 5:47:35 PM

^^hahaha

6/12/2018 6:59:16 PM

6/12/2018 7:07:16 PM

Birds of a feather flock together... no surprise he loves and praises dictators who kill and enslave

https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/1055234081303208/

6/13/2018 7:12:08 PM

LOL

"The reason great dealmakers do not OPENLY celebrate a deal, especially one that is not complete, is that it shows weakness to the other side."

-Donald Trump, 2013

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/404926289569939456

6/13/2018 7:33:37 PM

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1007023846455734272?s=21

Lol. He just can’t not lie. This is seriously one of the funniest ones I can remember. It’s just so insane.

[Edited on June 13, 2018 at 7:39 PM. Reason : X]

6/13/2018 7:35:53 PM

It's not funny anymore

6/13/2018 8:11:27 PM

^^ damn

and all the videos in that thread are fucking mental

6/13/2018 8:15:41 PM

Someone is going to ask SHS about those parents and she's going to get all indignant about disrespecting their sacrifice.

6/13/2018 8:31:08 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/new-york-files-suit-against-president-trump-alleging-his-charity-engaged-in-illegal-conduct/2018/06/14/c3cbf71e-6fc9-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.b57330209baf

Quote :

"The New York attorney general on Thursday filed suit against President Trump and his three eldest children alleging “persistently illegal conduct” at the president’s personal charity, saying Trump repeatedly misused the nonprofit — to pay off his businesses’ creditors, to decorate one of his golf clubs and to stage a multimillion dollar giveaway at his 2016 campaign events. ... [Trump boasts about his philanthropy. But his giving falls short of his words.] But she asked the judge to go further, and require Trump to pay millions more. She said a 20-month state investigation found that Trump had repeatedly violated laws that set the ground rules for tax-exempt foundations — most importantly, that their money is meant to serve the public good, and not to provide private benefits to their founders. “This resulted in multiple violations of state and federal law,” Underwood wrote in the legal complaint. The White House and the Trump Organization did not immediately respond to requests for comment. Trump has been president of the foundation since he founded it in 1987. In late 2016, he had promised to shut down the Trump Foundation — but could not while the attorney general’s investigation continued. Underwood was promoted to the position of attorney general only weeks ago, succeeding Eric Schneiderman (D) after he resigned following allegations that he had physically abused several romantic partners. Underwood was a career staffer, not an elected official. She has promised not to seek election for a full term as attorney general in the fall. Underwood declined to comment on the case beyond issuing a written statement. “As our investigation reveals, the Trump Foundation was little more than a checkbook for payments from Mr. Trump or his businesses to nonprofits, regardless of their purpose or legality,” Underwood said in the statement. Underwood said she had sent letters to both the IRS and the Federal Election Commission, identifying what she called “possible violations” of tax law and federal campaign law by Trump’s foundation. Underwood has jurisdiction over the Trump Foundation because the charity is based at Trump Tower in Manhattan and registered in New York State. Trump’s children Donald Trump Jr., Ivanka Trump and Eric Trump were also named in the lawsuit because they have been official board members of the Donald J. Trump Foundation for years. Under the law, Underwood said, board members are supposed to scrutinize a charity’s spending for signs that its leader — in this case, their father — was misusing the funds. But in reality, Underwood wrote, the three Trump children exercised no such oversight. The board had not actually met since 1999. “The Foundation’s directors failed to meet basic fiduciary duties and abdicated all responsibility for ensuring that the Foundation’s assets were used in compliance with the law,” Underwood wrote. She asked the judge to ban each of the three from serving as a director of a New York nonprofit for a year. It was not clear if any of the three are serving currently on the board of any such charities: Eric Trump, for instance, stepped down from the board of the Eric Trump Foundation after the 2016 election, and the charity was renamed Curetivity. Although Trump’s name is on the foundation, in recent years most of its money was not actually his. Trump did not give any donation to the Trump foundation between 2008 and 2015 — instead, its largest benefactors in recent years have been wrestling moguls Vince and Linda McMahon, who gave $5 million total in 2007 and 2009. Linda McMahon was later appointed by Trump as head of the Small Business Administration. The McMahons have declined to answer questions about the reasons for their gifts. The lawsuit shows that the Trump Foundation — which Trump founded to give away some of the royalties from his 1987 book “The Art of the Deal” — looked, on paper, like other tax-exempt nonprofits. It filed annual reports with New York state and the IRS. It listed directors and donations. But behind the scenes, Underwood said, the foundation was essentially one of Trump’s personal checkbooks — a pool of funds that his accounting clerks knew to use whenever Trump wanted to pay money to a nonprofit. By law, Trump wasn’t allowed to buy things for himself using the charity’s money, even if he was buying them from nonprofits. ... With no outside oversight over Trump’s use of foundation funds, Underwood said, the future president had repeatedly used his charity’s money to help his businesses, and himself. Twice, for instance, Trump used the charity’s money to settle legal disputes that involved his for-profit businesses. ... Underwood also listed several smaller instances of what she called “self-dealing,” meaning Trump using foundation money to help his businesses. The charity paid $5,000 to put an ad for Trump hotels in the program for a charity gala. It paid $32,000 to satisfy an obligation of a Trump company that manages a New York estate. It paid $10,000 to buy a portrait of Trump, which was later found hanging in the sports bar at Trump’s Doral golf resort. Underwood said Trump had already repaid amounts spent by the foundation, plus penalty taxes totaling more than $4,000. In the case of the portrait, she said Trump’s golf club had now paid the foundation the “fair rental value” of using the foundation-owned painting as decoration. The value: $182. IRS rules also prohibit tax-exempt foundations from aiding political campaigns. But Underwood listed two instances where Trump’s foundation had seemed to do so. In August 2013, Trump donated $25,000 from his foundation to a Florida political group aiding the reelection of state Attorney General Pam Bondi (R). Around the same time, Bondi’s office was considering whether to join an ongoing lawsuit by Schneiderman, then the New York attorney general, alleging Trump had defrauded students at his now-defunct “Trump University.” Afterward, the Trump Foundation omitted any mention of Bondi’s political group — called And Justice for All — from its annual report to the IRS, and instead said the $25,000 donation had gone to a nonprofit in Kansas with a similar-sounding name. Underwood said Trump’s staff blamed confusion among accounting clerks for spending the foundation’s money, instead of Trump’s own. As for the incorrect IRS filing, Underwood wrote, “the Foundation has no credible explanation for the false reporting of grant recipients.” After The Post reported on this donation to Bondi’s group in 2016, Trump repaid the $25,000 and paid a penalty tax of $2,500 for an improper political gift. But Underwood alleged that the campaign Trump’s foundation helped most was his own. In January 2016, Trump skipped a debate among Republican candidates because he was feuding with Fox News, the debate’s host. Instead, Trump held a televised fundraiser for veterans — drawing millions from wealthy friends and small-dollar donors, and giving much of it to the Trump Foundation. Underwood said that, afterward, “the Foundation ceded control over the charitable funds it raised to senior Trump Campaign staff.” She cited emails in which Corey Lewandowski, Trump’s then-campaign manager, directed which veterans’ charities should receive money. At one point, Lewandowski emailed Weisselberg to ask if the Trump Foundation’s money could be ready to distribute during Trump’s last campaign events before the Iowa caucuses: “Is there any way we can make some disbursements [from the proceeds of the fundraiser] this week while in Iowa? Specifically on Saturday,” Lewandowski wrote, in an email cited by Underwood. At one point, the lawsuit says, Trump actually gave out an oversized $100,000 “Trump Foundation” check to a charity at a campaign event in Council Bluffs, Iowa. The problem: nobody appears to have told the Trump Foundation. “This ‘check’ was given out (see video). This is not one of the charities we’ve cut a check to yet. Are there other charities like this?” wrote Jeff McConney, a Trump Organization staffer, in an email to Lewandowski cited in the lawsuit. The check was later cut. In 2016, Trump sought to excuse his foundation’s actions in a letter to the New York attorney general, saying that the Iowa fundraiser was a charity event. “This statement was false,” Underwood wrote, “because, in reality, the Fundraiser was a Trump Campaign event in which the Foundation participated.” She wrote that Trump had repeatedly signed charity documents saying that nonprofits like his were not allowed to become involved in political campaigns. “Mr. Trump’s wrongful use of the Foundation to benefit his Campaign was willful and knowing,” she wrote. As president, Trump has repeatedly called for the repeal of the “Johnson Amendment,” a 1954 tax code provision that imposed the ban on political activity by nonprofit groups."

6/14/2018 11:07:31 AM

The entirety of the 2016 campaign cycle was one huge exercise in projection.

6/14/2018 11:36:21 AM

I’d like to see some enterprising investigative reporter really go to town on rich people and their “charities.” I think using a charity as a private slush fund is way more prevalent than I care to admit.

6/14/2018 12:08:40 PM

Giuliani says Michael Cohen is not cooperating with federal investigators
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/rudy-giuliani-michael-cohen

So that's basically a confirmation, right? lol

6/14/2018 5:27:11 PM

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/6/15/17467644/trump-kim-summit-fox-news

Quote :

"“He’s the head of a country, and I mean, he’s the strong head, don’t let anyone think anything different,” Trump said during an interview on Fox & Friends. “He speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”"

Of course he does.

Quote :

"Later on Friday morning, Trump clarified that he was only joking when he said that Americans should “sit up at attention” for him the same way North Koreans do for Kim. “I’m kidding. You don’t understand sarcasm,” he told reporters."

Classic Trump.

[Edited on June 15, 2018 at 2:21 PM. Reason : jk guys]

6/15/2018 2:01:30 PM

6/15/2018 2:32:29 PM

This is amazing: https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/15/politics/donald-trump-fox-news-interview/index.html

6/15/2018 2:36:31 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-associate-roger-stone-reveals-new-contact-with-russian-national-during-2016-campaign/2018/06/17/4a8123c8-6fd0-11e8-bd50-b80389a4e569_story.html?utm_term=.b45652051846

Quote :

""You don't understand Donald Trump, he doesn't pay for anything," Stone told the Post he remembers telling Greenberg."

Except for sex with porn stars.

6/17/2018 11:01:55 AM

dtownral, what is the significance of ^^^? Is that a picture of the check from that charity fraud issue?

[Edited on June 17, 2018 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ?]

6/17/2018 11:45:58 AM

^

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-suit-against-trumps-charity-isnt-ridiculous-at-all/2018/06/16/599ac142-70b2-11e8-bf86-a2351b5ece99_story.html

Quote :

"This note, written by President Trump, allegedly directed his staff to pay $100,000 from the Donald J. Trump Foundation to a charity to settle a long-running legal dispute between the town of Palm Beach and Trump's Mar-a-Lago Club. It was included in a lawsuit filed Thursday against Mr. Trump by the New York attorney general, who said this payment violated tax laws by using a nonprofit's money to pay a debt owed by Mr. Trump's for-profit club. (New York attorney general lawsuit)"

6/17/2018 6:59:17 PM

Trump is going to get what he wants on immigration. He is a sociopath so he doesn’t care about families being separated so I see no reason he will back down on this. And eventually Democrats AND moderate Republicans will say enough is enough and do ANYTHING to stop this.

We aren’t there yet but once kids start dying and parents start killing themselves this will end.

He’s a madman with severe mental illness but it’ll work for him.

6/18/2018 10:01:34 AM

like they've said enough is enough on gun violence?

6/18/2018 11:35:10 AM

Quote :

"We aren’t there yet but once kids start dying and parents start killing themselves this will end."

Halfway there.

6/18/2018 3:32:42 PM

Why do people light their reputations on fire for this guy? Is some semblance of fleeting power really worth it when you know he would throw you under the bus so hard for a nickel?

6/18/2018 5:48:16 PM

lol @ Space Force.

6/19/2018 7:52:44 AM

https://youtu.be/MwpmqMnngRk

6/19/2018 9:37:01 AM

Is it ok to call Trump a racist piece of shit or am I going to be lectured on “this is how we got Trump?”

[Edited on June 19, 2018 at 10:17 AM. Reason : Because he is a racist piece of shit]

6/19/2018 10:17:32 AM

The DHS secretary was asked by the press corps about why ICE keeps children in cages. She didn't have a good response, indicating that she hadn't seen the pictures.

Then she was excoriated for that particular response.

Turns out the pictures were from a staged protest. No children were kept in cages.

6/19/2018 11:52:42 AM

1. this is a fucking stupid thing you're choosing to focus on when thousands of kids are being permanently traumatized

2. YES THEY ARE IN CAGES. THEY ARE CHILD PRISONERS.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/images-inside-center-immigrants_us_5b27bebae4b0f9178a9f6f7f

6/19/2018 12:28:23 PM

^^ You might want to check your sources.

https://www.apnews.com/9794de32d39d4c6f89fbefaea3780769

Quote :

" Inside an old warehouse in South Texas, hundreds of children wait in a series of cages created by metal fencing. One cage had 20 children inside. Scattered about are bottles of water, bags of chips and large foil sheets intended to serve as blankets. One teenager told an advocate who visited that she was helping care for a young child she didn’t know because the child’s aunt was somewhere else in the facility. She said she had to show others in her cell how to change the girl’s diaper. The U.S. Border Patrol on Sunday allowed reporters to briefly visit the facility where it holds families arrested at the southern U.S. border, responding to new criticism and protests over the Trump administration’s “zero tolerance” policy and resulting separation of families. More than 1,100 people were inside the large, dark facility that’s divided into separate wings for unaccompanied children, adults on their own, and mothers and fathers with children. The cages in each wing open out into common areas to use portable restrooms. The overhead lighting in the warehouse stays on around the clock. The Border Patrol said close to 200 people inside the facility were minors unaccompanied by a parent. Another 500 were “family units,” parents and children. Many adults who crossed the border without legal permission could be charged with illegal entry and placed in jail, away from their children. Reporters were not allowed by agents to interview any of the detainees or take photos. Nearly 2,000 children have been taken from their parents since Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced the policy, which directs Homeland Security officials to refer all cases of illegal entry into the United States for prosecution. Church groups and human rights advocates have sharply criticized the policy, calling it inhumane. Stories have spread of children being torn from their parents’ arms, and parents not being able to find where their kids have gone. A group of congressional lawmakers visited the same facility Sunday and were set to visit a longer-term shelter holding around 1,500 children — many of whom were separated from their parents. “Those kids inside who have been separated from their parents are already being traumatized,” said Democratic Sen. Jeff Merkley of Oregon, who was denied entry earlier this month to children’s shelter. “It doesn’t matter whether the floor is swept and the bedsheets tucked in tight.” In Texas’ Rio Grande Valley, the busiest corridor for people trying to enter the U.S., Border Patrol officials argue that they have to crack down on migrants and separate adults from children as a deterrent to others. “When you exempt a group of people from the law ... that creates a draw,” said Manuel Padilla, the Border Patrol’s chief agent here. “That creates the trends right here.” Agents running the holding facility — generally known as “Ursula” for the name of the street it’s on — said everyone detained is given adequate food, access to showers and laundered clothes, and medical care. People are supposed to move through the facility quickly. Under U.S. law, children are required to be turned over within three days to shelters funded by the Department of Health and Human Services. Padilla said agents in the Rio Grande Valley have allowed families with children under the age of 5 to stay together in most cases. An advocate who spent several hours in the facility Friday said she was deeply troubled by what she found. Michelle Brane, director of migrant rights at the Women’s Refugee Commission, met with a 16-year-old girl who had been taking care of a young girl for three days. The teen and others in their cage thought the girl was 2 years old. “She had to teach other kids in the cell to change her diaper,” Brane said. Brane said that after an attorney started to ask questions, agents found the girl’s aunt and reunited the two. It turned out that the girl was actually 4 years old. Part of the problem was that she didn’t speak Spanish, but K’iche, a language indigenous to Guatemala. “She was so traumatized that she wasn’t talking,” Brane said. “She was just curled up in a little ball.” Brane said she also saw officials at the facility scold a group of 5-year-olds for playing around in their cage, telling them to settle down. There are no toys or books. But one boy nearby wasn’t playing with the rest. According to Brane, he was quiet, clutching a piece of paper that was a photocopy of his mother’s ID card. “The government is literally taking kids away from their parents and leaving them in inappropriate conditions,” Brane said. “If a parent left a child in a cage with no supervision with other 5-year-olds, they’d be held accountable.” Dr. Colleen Kraft, the head of the American Academy of Pediatrics, said that she visited a small shelter in Texas recently, which she declined to identity. A toddler inside the 60-bed facility caught her eye — she was crying uncontrollably and pounding her little fists on mat. Staff members tried to console the child, who looked to be about 2 years old, Kraft said. She had been taken from her mother the night before and brought to the shelter. The staff gave her books and toys — but they weren’t allowed to pick her up, to hold her or hug her to try to calm her. As a rule, staff aren’t allowed to touch the children there, she said. “The stress is overwhelming,” she said. “The focus needs to be on the welfare of these children, absent of politics.”"

6/19/2018 12:33:43 PM

dude went and attempted to defend someone who has been blatantly lying for the better part of 3 days

lying about something that is completely indefensible

there is nobody in this administration worth caping up for, especially with what’s going on at the border

6/19/2018 12:42:11 PM

CNBC is on at work and Trump is giving a speech to the NFIB.

He is terribly off. Not making sense, rambling, making shit up. To raucous cheers...

[Edited on June 19, 2018 at 1:05 PM. Reason : Remember two weeks ago when fucking pedants were yelling at everyone over “animals” ]

6/19/2018 1:02:22 PM

Quote :

"No children were kept in cages"

For fucks sake dude.

[Edited on June 19, 2018 at 5:46 PM. Reason : How the fuck are you not WILDLY outraged at what WE are doing to these kids and their families? You wanna play this game of what constitutes a cage? Fine. It's fucking gross as hell though.]

[Edited on June 19, 2018 at 5:49 PM. Reason : Read this story and listen to the audio and get back with us - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/18/a-secret-recording-captures-the-sounds-of-crying-children-separated-from-parents-at-the-border/]

6/19/2018 5:45:24 PM

School buses and classrooms are cages too, if you really think about it.

6/19/2018 7:32:07 PM

Quote :

"One thing I know for sure: no one on the right side of history has ever had to nitpick what the definition of “cage” is."

Stephen Colbert on twitter

6/19/2018 8:37:43 PM

Despite snowflake rage, they are still just some brats in a cage?

6/19/2018 9:29:03 PM

As enraging as Trump is, he's 1% as much of a problem as the fact that 40%+ of America tolerates this, and at least half of them are furiously masturbating and gleefully foaming at the mouth over what is happening to America.

6/20/2018 1:57:40 AM

He's responsible for way more than 1% (he appointed all these idiots who appoint other idiots), but yes, his supporters are a real problem.

6/20/2018 2:07:05 AM

At this point, the only thing that will convince Trump lifers to abandon their cult like allegiance to him is an economic collapse of catastrophic proportions.

6/20/2018 2:32:34 AM

^that wouldn’t do it either nothing will. Anything bad at all would just get blamed on Obama. He can do anything and if the result is bad always just blame Obama and that satisfies his base.

6/20/2018 6:52:12 AM

Withdrawing from the UN Human Rights Council while engaging in the current border separation policy isn't the greatest look.

6/20/2018 9:18:25 AM

Quote :

"At this point, the only thing that will convince Trump lifers to abandon their cult like allegiance to him is an economic collapse of catastrophic proportions."

Nah. In fact, it would do the exact opposite. If any economic hardship were felt by these petite bourgeoisie fucks, they'd begin to openly suggest that these camps begin liquidating the inhabitants as a solution to this immigration crisis. The act of putting children in cages strips them of their base humanity, and the fascist and reactionary mind would rather convince itself that these children are somehow deserving of their fate rather than come to grips with the reality that they've been conned by a grifter.

6/20/2018 11:42:09 AM

You’re probably right. I just think that people will generally ditch their steadfast loyalties at the drop of a hat once you start fucking royalty with their wallets. If/when Trump’s trade wars lead to a financial meltdown, I can see the pitchforks coming out pretty quickly. Empathy and equality aren’t great motivators for people who’ve already achieved baseline wants/needs, but money is essential to survival. The next economic disaster isn’t going to be felt by those who played the game well enough by pulling their money out even/slightly ahead; it’s going fall at the feet of those who didn’t even get the chance to play the game in the first place.

6/20/2018 12:41:11 PM

Any economic crash will affect workers, not capitalists. So you're right about that. But the white workers will just blame the brown workers (I'm over-simplifying, but you get my point) before they blame their bosses.

At that point, when you already have brown children in cages, and white workers who are worried about the future of their white children, you just point to the brown children who are already in cages as the culprit of their misery (after all, if they were so innocent, they wouldn't be in cages). Watch as right-wing media quickly begins to re-frame the narrative of human rights abuses as not only justifiable, but actually necessary to preserve the "American" family. I'm sure Tucker Carlson is already on this.

6/20/2018 1:11:19 PM