Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Not too worried about Purvis. He's going through a bit of a slump, and I think he started pressing a bit to try and get himself out of it which is making things worse. He's a freshman, it happens. People forget he's had some very effective games for us earlier this year. Some time on the bench should do him some good and I expect he'll get back to playing within himself. 2/17/2013 2:57:53 PM |
Wolfman Tim All American 9654 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like not blowing out opponents does mean something: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/three-points-juggernaut-status-average-mov-and-acc-final-four-teams 2/17/2013 5:04:24 PM |
willembahh All American 2378 Posts user info edit post |
So, we're not making the Final Four? Did NOT see that coming. 2/17/2013 5:12:00 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Even beating OSU wouldn't have looked that great."" |
Quote : | "Which makes losing to them look all that worse." |
What are yall buttholes babbling about? OSU is ranked 17th in the country, are 19-5, 9-3 in the Big12, and beat a #2 ranked Kansas at Kansas. They're a pretty good team guys.
[Edited on February 17, 2013 at 5:40 PM. Reason : ]2/17/2013 5:40:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
I like how Minnesota is a top-15 team in kenpom but they're sub-.500 in conference and have dropped 7 of their last 10 games 2/17/2013 5:45:00 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
started from the top now we here 2/18/2013 2:47:55 AM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
we have more votes for top 25 than we did last week.
If we can put away FSU, and come up with some plan to take out UNC at the dean dome, i could see us being 24-25 next week. Morale would be back up and beaucoup respect to gottfried for sweeping UNC.
</optimism> 2/18/2013 12:23:54 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
We got 0 votes in the Coaches Poll. I don't know which one is preferred (AP vs. Coaches) but to not even get 1 vote is absurd. Even UK got a vote after getting their asses handed to them. 2/18/2013 1:43:38 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
AP is preferred. Coach's is garbage 2/18/2013 1:46:56 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
The polls mean almost nothing. I don't understand people's fixation with them. It's an honor to be #1 and if you're high up (top 5, top 10) then you get more exposure which can help recruiting. But who really cares if you're #23 or just miss being ranked or get x # of votes.
We know this team has the talent to compete with just about anyone. It's just a matter of playing good basketball and winning. Based on how we've played since the first half vs. UNC, I wouldn't vote us as one of the best 25 teams right now. From here on, if we win we'll be fine. If we keep blowing opportunities against inferior talent and playing down to the level of our competition, we don't deserve to be ranked.
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2013 2:47:01 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
they matter in recruiting whether it's logical or not
and seeding for the tournament
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2013 3:16:46 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Not to mention its free press, as most places only put up the top 25 team scores. So now when you want to find ours you have to seek out ACC scores. Plus as others have said recruits want to come to places that are consistently ranked. I was pretty excited about possibly landing Randle but to be honest this season makes me think that dream may be done. 2/18/2013 3:27:41 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
They don't matter at all for seeding in the tournament. And regarding recruiting, I think NCAA tournament success, team system and coaching matters a whole lot more than being in the bottom of the top 25 in mid February. Getting the preseason hype was nice to raise our profile, but at this point all of our hopes for this season rest of playing mroe consistent basketball and making an ACC touney or NCAA run. 2/18/2013 3:33:37 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
actually seeds 1-6 are generally based on the top 25 teams, with some wiggle room of course. then you get more favorable matchups. so yeah, it matters. 2/18/2013 3:38:58 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
What have we done recently to show that we should be getting votes? 2/18/2013 3:40:13 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
is someone claiming that we should get votes? i must have missed that. 2/18/2013 3:41:54 PM |
bronco All American 3942 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe it's more that people are saying "ah man, I wish we were ranked" versus "ah man, we should be ranked" 2/18/2013 3:48:30 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
i brought up that we didn't get any votes in the coaches poll...and UK got 1 vote after being blown out. i mean if UK is getting 1 vote we should at least get something. that's really all i was getting at, wasn't trying to start a debate about whether or not we deserve votes. 2/18/2013 3:49:55 PM |
death cab Veteran 266 Posts user info edit post |
^^^, ^^^^
Despite going 3-4 in our last 7 games with our three wins being poor performances against Clemson twice and Virginia Tech, yes, there was some complaining over our not getting votes.
While the top 10-15 teams usually are the best teams and get most of the top 4 seeds, it's not like the committee looks at the rankings and assigns a seed based on what the AP says. You often see unranked teams seeded as high as #5/6 while ranked teams can drop down to #8/9. It's not about your rankings, its about your body of work. Right now, we need to care about playing better ball, winning games and then everything will work out. Caring about whether or not we're getting votes means nothing.
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 3:51 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2013 3:51:03 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
Wow, these are surprisingly accurate.
http://en.genzu.net/yurai/
2/18/2013 4:29:31 PM |
MORR1799 All American 3051 Posts user info edit post |
I think we can all agree that while rankings have little to do with the team's game-by-game success or tournament seeding, they help in terms of national exposure and long-term reputation
ranked > not ranked 2/18/2013 4:33:01 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
2/18/2013 4:33:19 PM |
scotieb24 Commish 11088 Posts user info edit post |
lol, Scott Wood ==> Super Boom 2/18/2013 4:34:20 PM |
RattlerRyan All American 8660 Posts user info edit post |
Coach Lowe behind bars for tax evasion 2/18/2013 4:34:48 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
and we'll finish here
2/18/2013 4:37:48 PM |
aph319 All American 8570 Posts user info edit post |
eh, let's do the coaches, too
2/18/2013 4:42:39 PM |
Motiak All American 1498 Posts user info edit post |
I tried that name thing with my own name and got menstrual blood... Never a good sign. 2/18/2013 4:48:30 PM |
MrLuvaLuva85 All American 4265 Posts user info edit post |
I put my wife's name...said Dung Beetle.............. 2/18/2013 4:49:59 PM |
dyne All American 7323 Posts user info edit post |
tried it with my name and got "Very Famous"
yeahhh buddy. 2/18/2013 4:50:13 PM |
JasonNSCU85 All American 2176 Posts user info edit post |
Bullshit, that game generator lost all credibility.
Try entering Tar Heels, then try Wolfpack... If you want a laugh, try Mr Wuf
And I tried my name and got 'vacuum fellatio' wtf?
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 4:52 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2013 4:51:07 PM |
WolfpckGrl17 All American 5755 Posts user info edit post |
Put in my name and got this: THE BEST. I'll take it! 2/18/2013 4:55:05 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
My real name went to Gentleman ....but that's with my first name shortened. My full first name and last name became Poisoning Death.
My tww name went to habitual.
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 6:01 PM. Reason : -] 2/18/2013 5:50:25 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
my full name i get 'Cool-headedness'
my first name shortened, i get 'bowel movement'
sonofabitch 2/18/2013 5:55:20 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
ACC refs = ruthless 2/18/2013 6:04:41 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
lol
type in jackleg 2/18/2013 6:28:04 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
what will Julius Randle be paying in a few years 2/18/2013 6:31:01 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
That name generator thing is an easy way to kill a few minutes.
My real name = Mine Woman lol
My TWW name = bombing
Barack Obama = Coma Robbery
George W Bush = Economic Boom
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 6:52 PM. Reason : d] 2/18/2013 6:51:01 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Despite going 3-4 in our last 7 games with our three wins being poor performances against Clemson twice and Virginia Tech, yes, there was some complaining over our not getting votes. " |
2 weeks ago we got 64 votes in the ap and 24 in the coaches. the next week, we had a close loss to a team they ranked 1/2 and an away win. That lost us 40 votes in the AP and all 24 in the coaches, that seems strange to me. Then we won again and lost more votes in the AP.
Meanwhile Miami has close wins at FSU and Clemson (same as us and could just as easily have lost) and they gain 3 first place votes.
we are 22 in BPI and 21 in RPI.
not to mention 3 of our losses came w/ our best player out and all but 1 more down to the last second and away, and 2 vs top 5 teams. That player is now almost 100%. I think we deserve votes.
illinois got more votes than us, for gods sake. look at their resume and tell me they deserve more than us.2/18/2013 7:14:51 PM |
alfredough All American 1121 Posts user info edit post |
lol, my real name => feces, a friend of mine's name => hymen 2/18/2013 7:23:15 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think we deserve votes." |
We aren't entitled to shit. We we ranked nearly all season long and blew it. Besides, the only ranking that will ultimately matter is if/when we are ranked around selection Sunday.
Quit crying about fucking votes. For crying out loud, that's probably what UNC fans have been doing all season long2/18/2013 7:26:58 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
who's crying?
i was just responding to people saying it is dumb to say we deserve votes.
2 of my opinions: 1. receiving or not receiving votes doesnt really matter 2. we deserve to receive some votes
i agree we arent entitled to votes but our resume certainly points to us deserving some votes. especially when you look at teams that are currently receiving votes and the actions that made us lose votes
but again, who give a shit. if i was writing letters to the editor you could say i was whining, i'm simply making a thought out appeal. 2/18/2013 7:33:13 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
We are a top 30ish team
We win tomorrow and @ UNC, I think you could make a good case about deserving a top 25 ranking/more votes
These next 6 games are going to be absolute torture for us
[Edited on February 18, 2013 at 7:35 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2013 7:35:11 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
Duke losing to Maryland probably caused us to lose potential votes. 2/18/2013 7:44:27 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
It puts us in a bad spot having all of our easy games at the end of the season like this. Its kind of a lose lose unless we win out. 2/18/2013 8:51:38 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
Good teams win out when they have an easy sch. Lets see if this team can do what they did last year and start a run.
Look at it this way. We are now winning close games. But damn it be nice to just beat the dog shit out of a team the whole game. 2/18/2013 9:02:10 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
we're clearly not a top thirty team right now. Clearly. 2/18/2013 9:07:24 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Quit crying about fucking votes. For crying out loud," |
2/18/2013 9:08:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
We're obviously a top-25 team right now. It's really not even debatable. 2/18/2013 9:10:18 PM |
CEmann All American 1913 Posts user info edit post |
jesus christ comes out to intercourse with that thing. What does it mean! 2/18/2013 10:14:31 PM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Meanwhile Miami has close wins at FSU and Clemson (same as us and could just as easily have lost) and they gain 3 first place votes." |
Miami gained votes because Duke dropped out of the #1 hunt.
And also because they deserve to be #1.2/18/2013 10:35:16 PM |