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"yes because those guys were such major contributors this year we can't live without them "

my post has nothing to do with the caliber of players we are losing, just the fact that we are losing players.. and to say that losing Costner next year as a 5th year senior as the leading scorer of our team is nothing to scoff at. Losing T. Ferg maybe... losing possibly Degand and now a recruit decommitting to me is indicative of a much larger problem. I hate to be so harsh, but pull your head out of your ass. It's like Lowe can do no wrong in your eyes.


[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 6:33 PM. Reason : []

3/23/2009 6:32:23 PM

yes i would also like to add that you are absolutely correct and I'm the one who has my head in my ass.

3/23/2009 6:35:46 PM

thank you.. finally.

3/23/2009 6:36:38 PM

yes, I totally agree with everything you have said

3/23/2009 6:39:06 PM

you obviously do.. you can't think of ANY rebuttal that comes close to logic to dispute it.

3/23/2009 6:44:51 PM

yes, thats exactly right, I'm not trolling the troll.

3/23/2009 6:50:52 PM

I owned you wolfAApack

wolfAApack's response in advance:

you are so stupid.. you shouldn't expect any indication of a good ACC coach until year three ... four... five ... six ...

[Edited on March 23, 2009 at 9:27 PM. Reason : .]

3/23/2009 9:25:03 PM

So we're all in agreement, right? We're just ignoring OhBoyeee's trolling from here on out?

Good

3/23/2009 9:30:49 PM

amazing that this actually happened

http://statsheet.com/mcb/rankings/motion/AP?season=1974-1975

3/23/2009 10:28:08 PM

Yes, I have been pwnt. After all this time I now realize that Lowe should have been fired after last season. He's really a terrible basketball coach, and really, he's a shitty human being on top of that. He lost to fucking davidson this year for the love of god and he can't even keep players on the team who are lazy and don't contribute. In addition, he's offering scholarships to no-names who I've never seen play and they're not ranked high, so they must suck which just shows you how bad of a coach he is. Really, I can't think of how much worse of a situation our basketball program could be in so we may as well end the circus and start from scratch. We don't need this shitty recruiting class with only 2 top 50 players and a guy who got snubbed from the McDonalds all american game. I mean, he barely won player of the year in the best conference in georgia. The other guy fucking choked in the state championship game in indiana. What a bunch of clowns we have running this program, bringing in clowns to play basketball for us. I'm sick of this bullshit. OhBoyeee was right all along. I think I'm going to go pull for UNC. At least they can recruit and they wear a nice color of blue.

3/23/2009 11:02:47 PM

ignore it man

3/23/2009 11:11:38 PM

it would truly be shameful if any of you so-called Wolfpack fans would ever wish for our 1983 national champion coach-on-the-floor to be unemployed in this economy

3/24/2009 12:27:18 AM

i guarantee an NBA team would love to have him back on their bench

he was obviously a good assistant. maybe head coaching just isn't his calling

i'll reserve judgement for another 3-5 years though

3/24/2009 12:33:35 AM

you could be right, but look at someone like tim floyd...bad nba track record, give him a few years in college, he has his shit together...thats the upside i can see...i can actually see more of an upside with this conference, but thats an example...pete carroll sucked in the nfl but he's arguably the best college coach in the country

3/24/2009 12:35:29 AM

pete carroll sucked in the nfl but he's arguably the best college coach in the country

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 12:36 AM. Reason : not that that is really relevant]

3/24/2009 12:36:14 AM

you could argue an urban meyer or somebody but we're 99% on the same page

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 12:37 AM. Reason : also not really relevant to the thread, but just a message to people who bash lowe's nba record]

3/24/2009 12:36:56 AM

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"So we're all in agreement, right? We're just ignoring OhBoyeee's trolling from here on out? Good"

3/24/2009 12:38:46 AM

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"it would truly be shameful if any of you so-called Wolfpack fans would ever wish for our 1983 national champion coach-on-the-floor to be unemployed in this economy"

I kinda have a problem with this. If he doesn't do a good job, then it should not matter who he is to the university. We had no problem with Chuck being fired once he proved incompetent and it should be the same for Lowe.

3/24/2009 12:51:38 AM

it was a joking statement, but at the same time, chuck didn't lead us to any national championships

3/24/2009 12:54:06 AM

I know it was a joke but many will have that sentiment and will want to keep him longer should he not turn this around.

3/24/2009 12:55:27 AM

I think Lowe is going to be the best ever. He is a champion and NBA coaching genius. He knows what it take to be #1. Nelly says that 2 is not for winners and 3 nobody remembers and I think Lowe knows this. I predict 2 NC's, 5 Final Fours, 10 ACC championships from 2010-2020. I BELIEVE.

3/24/2009 1:22:19 AM

titty fuck

3/24/2009 1:24:57 AM

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"you could be right, but look at someone like tim floyd...bad nba track record, give him a few years in college, he has his shit together..."

lolwhat?

Floyd was a VERY successful college head coach at U of New Orleans and more importantly Iowa State before ever going to the NBA... it wasn't like he was hired as some rook to the college game after the Bulls debacle.

3/24/2009 1:28:31 AM

i was just saying that nba lack of success doesnt necessarily equal college lack of success, ie tim floyd

i guess i misspoke when i said "a few years in college"

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 1:36 AM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 1:35:02 AM

guys, seriously, can't we all just agree that Lowe sucks and OhBoyeee was right?

3/24/2009 7:45:20 AM

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"I predict 2 NC's, 5 Final Fours, 10 ACC championships from 2010-2020. I BELIEVE."

3/24/2009 8:48:17 AM

I think we will beat UCLAs 7 in a row record

3/24/2009 9:00:33 AM

wait let me catch up here. costner is gone to the NBA? yaaaaay !

3/24/2009 9:12:02 AM

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"I'm not certain, but I am pretty sure this kind of voluntary attrition on the players part isn't normal for a coach going into his 4th3rd year. It most likely isn't an indication of a good coach either. Just saying"

Signed,
Butch Davis

3/24/2009 9:17:36 AM

Quote :

""So we're all in agreement, right? We're just ignoring OhBoyeee's trolling from here on out? Good""

3/24/2009 9:31:47 AM

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"We had no problem with Chuck being fired once he proved incompetent"

and that's a good thing?

3/24/2009 10:09:00 AM

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"i'll reserve judgement for another 3-5 years though"

Who in their right mind gives a new coach 6-8 years to prove that he can put together a top 25 team? Someone who's off their rocker, that's who.

3/24/2009 1:11:49 PM

^I agree. Last year we said we would give him another year. The year before, we said the same thing.

3/24/2009 1:40:19 PM

It was ncstatetke who posted that, and he's trolling in some form or fashion.

V

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"You just go around posting that people are trolling, and it is getting really old."

Hahahah, you've still got it! you douche.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 2:03 PM. Reason : ]

3/24/2009 1:41:36 PM

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" Signed, Butch Davis"

at least at UNC they are kicking out underperforming players for big time recruits, we lost a McDonald's All American and another dude (not sure what Fergie's recruiting ranking was) and all we got was a 2 star "late bloomer"

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 1:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/24/2009 1:48:27 PM

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"I agree. Last year we said we would give him another year. The year before, we said the same thing."

people were saying we'd give him one more year after his first year? where are these idiots?

and iirc most people were riding his jock after his first season ending in the acc tourney final/nit performance.

3/24/2009 1:52:56 PM

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"It was ncstatetke who posted that, and he's trolling in some form or fashion."

Will you get over yourself? You are doing more trolling than anyone else, and you haven't contributed shit to sports talk. You just go around posting that people are trolling, and it is getting really old.

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"and iirc most people were riding his jock after his first season ending in the acc tourney final/nit performance."

that jock riding really tailed off quickly (with the exception of a few who have permanent nc state red blinders on).

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 2:00 PM. Reason : []

3/24/2009 1:58:20 PM

from the N&O:
Costner's exit will hurt Wolfpack

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" After Brandon Costner slumped at the end of last season, some N.C. State fans hinted that the team might have been better without him if he didn’t return as a senior. Nothing could be further from the truth. Losing its leading scorer in addition to seniors Ben McCauley and Courtney Fells was a significant blow for a team that finished 16-14, and 6-10 in the ACC. When you look at the roster the Wolfpack has returning, it’s impossible to deduce that the team will be better off without Costner and reserve guard Trevor Ferguson, who also is leaving. In the frontcourt, Tracy Smith is developing into a strong low-post scorer and Dennis Horner demonstrated promise at the end of last season. But N.C. State will be counting on freshman Richard Howell to add depth as three players rotate in the two post positions. That’s just enough talent to get by, but still one injury away from a crisis. At point guard and the wings, though, N.C. State won’t have anybody who’s averaged more than seven points a game in a college season. Sophomores C.J. Williams and Johnny Thomas will have to play small forward, perhaps with help from Howell. Athens Drive’s Josh Davis, who committed to N.C. State on Monday, might take a year or two to develop into a contributor in ACC play. At point guard N.C. State will have the same players (Javi Gonzalez, Farnold Degand, Julius Mays) who struggled in 2007-08. Lorenzo Brown of Roswell, Ga., the top recruit in the Wolfpack’s class, might play both point guard and shooting guard. And freshman Scott Wood could get into the rotation at shooting guard, where Williams might also be a factor. As a whole, this roster will not scare North Carolina when it gets off the bus next season at the Smith Center. Against the rest of the ACC, N.C. State might hold up OK because there is a lot of backcourt talent leaving from the traditional middle-of-the-pack schools. Toney Douglas, Tyrese Rice and Jack McClinton all were seniors, and Maryland’s Greivis Vasquez has already announced his intention to test the NBA waters. But hoping the competition falls back to N.C. State’s level is not a where the Wolfpack hoped to be in Sidney Lowe’s fourth season. Coach Sidney Lowe’s incoming recruiting class might turn out to be his best yet. But the members of his past classes will be sophomores and juniors next season comprising the bulk of N.C. State’s roster. Lowe’s initial difficulties gaining a foothold as a recruiter after coming to N.C. State from the NBA look like they will come home to roost next season. "

http://blogs.newsobserver.com/accnow/costners-exit-will-hurt-wolfpack

3/24/2009 2:02:05 PM

^ I sure hope wolfAApack sees that

3/24/2009 2:05:05 PM

^But but...players leaving early and new recruits de-committing are good for the Wolfpack.

Have faith in Lowe, clearly everything is going according to his plan.

3/24/2009 2:07:58 PM

the n&o blog said it's so. it must be the truth!

3/24/2009 2:09:27 PM

^^like oyboyee, i guess it also needs to be pointed out to you that nobody said any such thing.

Your argument is like that of a child. "Oh, you don't agree with everything I say? That must logically mean that you think the exact polar opposite of what I think."

3/24/2009 2:12:21 PM

I thought this was a pretty telling statement from that blog:

Quote :

"But hoping the competition falls back to N.C. State’s level is not a where the Wolfpack hoped to be in Sidney Lowe’s fourth season."

3/24/2009 2:15:31 PM

Quote :

"Your argument is like that of a child. "Oh, you don't agree with everything I say? That must logically mean that you think the exact polar opposite of what I think. Oh that must mean you are trolling."

3/24/2009 2:17:22 PM

Quote :

"you could be right, but look at someone like tim floyd...bad nba track record, give him a few years in college, he has his shit together..."

He runs a squeaky clean program too, haha.

3/24/2009 2:22:37 PM

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"Your argument is like that of a child."

Oh good, name calling. You big stupid.

3/24/2009 2:24:45 PM

^^lulz

can somebody please fucking suspend OhBoyeee, I'm getting really tired of reading his verbal diarrhea

3/24/2009 2:32:31 PM

I find it funny that anyone attempting to point out the glaring problems with our program right now and they get called a troll or asking for said user to be suspended or being called childish or, get this, not knowing shit about basketball.

Glaring problems with our program right now
- 10th place ACC finish year #1
- 12th place ACC finish year #2 (with #19 draft pick NBA center on roster)
- 10th place ACC finish year #3
- absolutely zero optimism from most fans about year #4
- Recruits decommitting
- Current players opting to not finish their eligibility
- Offering a scholarship to a potential walk-on

It's just too damned bad I had no clue how basketball works and this is par for the course.

[Edited on March 24, 2009 at 2:39 PM. Reason : []

3/24/2009 2:37:24 PM

Just ignore him

3/24/2009 2:37:53 PM

there should be 11 ACC coaches fired every year

you win the league, you get to stay

you don't win the league, fuck you, what have you done for me lately

3/24/2009 2:38:25 PM