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10/24/2009 8:14:52 PM

^How do you people know when the next page is coming up, do you through and count the posts or something? I don't get this

10/25/2009 1:19:32 AM

before somebody can be a dick

it's just if the (post count / 50) has a remainder of 49 - like 149 or 399 or etc. The number of posts is visible in the thread listing.

10/25/2009 1:21:38 AM

^^its something to do on a Saturday night when you've got nothing better going on.

10/25/2009 1:39:22 AM

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"i really doubt that they do, but can you check if they have scans from rocky mount?"

I haven't gotten the pay app yet, but I'm thinking about it. I'm using the lite version of one and it lets you listen to police/fire/ems for 6 or 7 different major metro areas. If I end up getting the full version I'll let you know.

10/25/2009 8:46:33 AM

my 3g has been in and out all day today! is everybody elses like that?

10/25/2009 7:45:28 PM

i love my iphone, i do. but jesus christ i am getting sick of the futility that is AT&T's service during big events like football games. Yet another sunday at the Panther game that i try and log on to check the early game scores before kickoff. Nothing loads, everything times out. sportstap, yahoo fantasy app, the browser itself.

then i borrow my dad's verizon phone. 3 clicks and less than 2 minutes later and i'm completely up to date on all scores and my fantasy teams. It really is ridiculous.


there's a map for that!

10/25/2009 8:13:28 PM

I was at the game too! My phone was going in and out..my browser wasn't even working ugh

10/25/2009 8:33:07 PM

As has been said many many times now, if you turn off 3G you will usually be able to get through.

I'm not defending AT&T's shitty service in any way, but it is a workaround that's usually better than nothing.

10/25/2009 9:06:33 PM

if verizon had the quantity of data going through it that att does due to the iphone.... it would have issues too i bet.

that being said FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT!!!

10/25/2009 9:19:07 PM

^^^^then turn fucking 3G off. no network is designed to handle that kind of volume of people in one place.

10/25/2009 9:42:14 PM

I did turn 3g off then at one point it gave me no service!

10/25/2009 10:06:28 PM

trust me, i know the turn off/on 3G workaround. had no effect. even tried to restart iphone.

10/25/2009 11:23:35 PM

So is that commercial where Verizon compares the 3G coverage maps accurate?

I know they are two entirely different types of 3G, but it just seems like they embellished the maps a bit.

10/26/2009 10:02:31 AM

if you've tried to take an iphone outside of a major metropolitan area, it's not really that inaccurate. hell, sometimes having an iphone in a busy wireless area is just like not having 3g at all.

10/26/2009 10:42:11 AM

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"if verizon had the quantity of data going through it that att does due to the iphone.... it would have issues too i bet. "

i would think that having the largest number of customers, and probably the largest supplier of blackberries, there are 50+MILLION blackberries (not all on VZW i realize), but i think VZW can hold their own.

10/26/2009 11:07:31 AM

probably, but you have to consider the amount of data that iphone users use. blackberry is more business-y and people don't play as many online games, track their hikes, and the million other things it does using the internet.

10/26/2009 11:43:05 AM

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"So is that commercial where Verizon compares the 3G coverage maps accurate? I know they are two entirely different types of 3G, but it just seems like they embellished the maps a bit."

Verizon has more towers. a LOT more. That's why they have better coverage and a larger network capacity. Mostly because of their merger and acquisition history, but as a result they have an enormous differential from AT&T in terms of network capacity and coverage.

10/26/2009 1:17:59 PM

i dont know if this has been posted yet, but have you seen the viper remote start thing for the iphone?
http://www.crn.com/mobile/220600547;jsessionid=CJS005NOLI12FQE1GHRSKH4ATMY32JVN

pretty cool, except it costs $500 if you don't already have a viper system, and $30/year for service after the first year.

10/26/2009 1:24:42 PM

http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/09/10/26/iphone_helps_att_continue_subscriber_gains_on_verizon.html

^That's neat. Not worth that much $$$ though. I have a viper system, and it'll still cost $299 for the wireless module? Jeez. Although the only need for this is if you forgot to lock your car and are too far for the key fab to work. I don't see any other point.

10/26/2009 1:55:36 PM

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"To put the total in perspective, more new customers came to AT&T for the iPhone than the total number of new subscribers gained by Verizon with all handsets during the September quarter."

damn.

10/26/2009 2:28:14 PM

I cant imagine the mass exodus when AT&T no longer has exclusive rights

10/26/2009 2:30:53 PM

i will be goneee

10/26/2009 2:32:00 PM

^only by early adopters. I don't see a lot of people jumping ship just to have to buy a new phone to be on a different carrier. Not at these prices at least. And I don't think its going to be as simple as swapping sim cards on your existing phone since Verizon isn't GSM.

If they release the same phone for both carriers i'll stick with AT&T since i'm already here and I have Uverse. If verizon gets a better phone then i might have to jump ship.

10/26/2009 2:33:00 PM

we (my office, 8 people with iphones) will jump ship for verizon the second it's possible...

as long as,

the phone is the same or better, preferably the latter. no dumbed down versions.

10/26/2009 2:58:43 PM

What if, theoretically, another carrier offers a lower monthly rate for your bill and the same iPhone? Would you jump ship then?

Or do you like paying $150 to AT&T for the unlimited talk plan?

(Not directed at a specific person, just iPhone people in general)

[Edited on October 26, 2009 at 3:32 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2009 3:31:00 PM

^^^ Even if it's limited to early adopters jumping ship, that's still a lot of people for AT&T to lose. The last thing that AT&T wants to do is to lose any customers. But if you give people an alternative that lets them still use their iPhone domestically, and have better service, seems to me like you'd have a winner.

[Edited on October 26, 2009 at 3:40 PM. Reason : caret]

10/26/2009 3:40:36 PM

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"Verizon chief says offering the iPhone is Apple's call by Chris Ziegler posted Oct 26th 2009 at 2:52PM Remember how in grade school, you usually made fun of the people you had crushes on? Verizon -- hot on the heels of some surgically strategic anti-iPhone marketing to promote its upcoming Android line -- is singing a very different tune in the corporate boardroom, with CEO Ivan Seidenberg (who has a storied reputation for running his mouth) saying during the company's earnings call today that the company "obviously would be interested at any point in the future that they would be interested in having us as a partner." He went on to say that the decision to bring the iPhone to Verizon is "exclusively in Apple's court," though we doubt that's entirely true -- Verizon has a reputation for putting manufacturers and devices through the wringer, and if any carrier in the world were to spike the iPhone for failing acceptance testing or throw its gargantuan weight and reputation around to put pressure on the contract, it'd be Big Red. Either way, though, it's an olive branch and a potential start to the near-constant cries of "if only the iPhone were on Verizon" that we've been hearing for the past two years; we're still having an awful hard time picturing a CDMA-equipped version ever happening, but with Verizon's LTE network progressively lighting up over the next few years, it might just be the perfect opportunity for these wayward souls to finally find common ground, especially with the tune AT&T's singing these days. "

10/26/2009 4:04:30 PM

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"What if, theoretically, another carrier offers a lower monthly rate for your bill and the same iPhone? Would you jump ship then? Or do you like paying $150 to AT&T for the unlimited talk plan?"

I pay ~$99 for the 450 minutes, data + unlimited texts plan. I also have 2000+ roll over minutes and they keep expiring. Most everyone I know has an iPhone so are on the same carrier so I rarely use anytime minutes.

some months I'll send about 6000+ texts so most of my communication is done through that.

For me at least I'm better off on AT&T for several reasons. 1) I don't really have the problems people describe and I've had the same carrier for mobile service since it was called Bellsouth (with the exception of one short lived year that I had verizon) 2) I travel out of the country and any non-gsm provider will be completely useless outside of US borders. 3) I already have Uverse and everything bundled together. Unless its a better phone that isn't offered on AT&T I doubt I'll ever jump ship.

Also a lot of the early adopters probably won't jump ship right away. Since us early adopters tend to buy the phone as they come out (which is one a year) we're stuck in a forever extended '2 year contract'. If I wanted to jump ship and not pay an early termination fee I'm stuck not buying the latest and greatest phone for one generation which as an early adopter isn't going to happen either lol.

10/26/2009 4:08:37 PM

^^^^we would probably jump ship even it costs more at verizon. we're not in raleigh, we're in rocky mount. we get SHIT for just regular talking type coverage. of course there's no 3g here w/ at&t. i just ran speedtest and got 10 kb/s. i get almost no service in my house.

when i had verizon, my cell phone speed was faster than my home internet (1.5Mbps), so i just tethered.

there's absolutely no coverage in northampton county (where we have 3 projects right now), hardly any in e-city, and crap on the way to the beach.

[Edited on October 26, 2009 at 4:11 PM. Reason : can't type]

10/26/2009 4:09:24 PM

^that is also another reason why I don't mind AT&T is because I'm not in that type of situation which a lot of people are in. But I live in Raleigh and I'm generally always in a big city vs. rural areas or small towns.

10/26/2009 4:16:01 PM

^ I just moved to a medium-sized town in Texas, and the spotty big blue T coverage was the reason that I made the leap to Verizon. I retrospect, I wish I'd waited for about 2 months, so I could have gotten a Droid on contract.

10/26/2009 5:38:02 PM

So apparently deleting voicemails from your iPhone UI doesn't actually delete voicemails on AT&T's side. People have been telling me my voicemail box has been full for a while and when i called my voicemail (since none are showing up on my phone) there are tons of vm in the erased folder that haven't been deleted. WTF? I now have to go through one by one and delete them and I have no idea how many there are. they go way back.

10/27/2009 2:10:55 PM

are they in your deleted box on the iphone?

10/27/2009 2:13:15 PM

^nope. I have no vm and no deleted vm on the iphone. my vm tab is completely empty.

10/27/2009 2:16:39 PM

lol thats pretty great.

10/27/2009 2:17:42 PM

hmm, just checked mine and i dont have that problem.

10/27/2009 2:23:18 PM

i'm not sure how this happened. I would think that something like this could have happened if I had replaced a phone recently without clearing out the deleted messages but I've had the same phone since the 3gs came out.

10/27/2009 2:25:33 PM

i've had some weird shit happen after doing any kind of restore or upgrade.. it would show no voicemails until i got one then it'd ask for my pw..then everything would show up/work right. no idea if that's related to your issue

10/27/2009 7:15:43 PM

^that could have something to do with it. There have been a couple of software upgrades since the 3GS came out. Although i would think this problem would have surfaced by now if that is truly the issue.

10/27/2009 7:50:41 PM

heh.

10/28/2009 7:03:05 PM

retarded commercial. they start out with valid points (though the significance of half of them won't register with most consumers) and then turn it into a scary movie? i don't get it.

10/28/2009 9:41:09 PM

http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/27/stalqer-peers-into-your-iphone-for-a-new-level-of-location-based-creepiness/

10/29/2009 10:14:36 AM

Just got the AT&T 3G MicroCell. So far it works as advertised. Where I used to get only 1 bar of coverage in my room - and only when the iPhone was in the window sill - I now have 5 bars.

10/29/2009 11:43:45 PM

Get verizon and you will probably have signal in your room anyway.

10/29/2009 11:49:13 PM

^and a locked down shitty phone

personally I think AT&T's response to Verizon's "theres a map for that" should just be a globe. *shrug*

[Edited on October 29, 2009 at 11:58 PM. Reason : .]

10/29/2009 11:57:33 PM

^ I am surprised they have not thought of that yet.

I am also surprised Verizon had the balls to take a shot like that at them, I guarantee if ATT were a CDMA provider they would not have done that. Its not like VZW has to negotiate roam agreements with ATT since the phones are not even compatible. You will not see them taking shots like that at Sprint, US Cellular, or any other CDMA carrier.

Sprint would be the worlds easiest target. Just show this....

10/30/2009 12:03:27 AM

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"^and a locked down shitty phone personally I think AT&T's response to Verizon's "theres a map for that" should just be a globe. *shrug* "

Unless you buy any of their smart phones. They too sell Blackberrys, WinMo and now Android phones, none of which are "locked down".

10/30/2009 1:39:48 AM

aren't they all poisoned with Vcast garbage?

because the article I read about android on Verizon indicated they were locked down and you could only buy apps and what not through vcast at a premium. Because apparently verizon doesn't like the Apple App store that gives most of the money to developers and not the cell provider. *shrug*

[Edited on October 30, 2009 at 1:52 AM. Reason : .]

10/30/2009 1:51:25 AM

With blackberry, android and winmo there's nothing stopping you from just installing apps. you might not be able to use the official vendor marketplaces, but they aren't "locked".

AFAIK the only phones like that are the garbage free phones.

10/30/2009 4:19:29 AM