only 2 launch games have 4 player modes

9/20/2006 5:35:35 PM

again, MOST gamers dont play w/ wives and their kids. they play with their friends. MOST people will just need to take their wiimotes for a trip.

9/20/2006 8:41:58 PM

why the fuck is everyone so pissed about 60 for the wii controller. the 360's wireless controller is 50.

9/20/2006 8:59:11 PM

^^what about roommates, significant others, and sibblings? i wouldn't think any of these pairs would have multiple consoles.

[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 8:59 PM. Reason : too slow]

9/20/2006 8:59:38 PM

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", significant others, "

MOST people dont play video games w/ these people. if you live w/ your sibling, your parents can afford $60 per kid, the price of a game. roommates can buy their own wii's, this aint communist russia



[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 9:03 PM. Reason : 234]

9/20/2006 9:01:46 PM

Yeah, he's pulling statistics out of his ass.

9/20/2006 9:02:49 PM

MOST isnt a statistic.

9/20/2006 9:03:28 PM

Most implies >51%.

In any case, I seriously doubt you can make any valid statement concerning MOST of the gaming population.

9/20/2006 9:34:52 PM

no, most is a plurality

9/20/2006 9:35:49 PM

joshnumbers, why do you continue to post in this thread after I've clowned you? Is there anything I could do to perhaps convince you to kill yourself? I'll buy the drugs.

9/20/2006 11:06:44 PM

yes. you could kill yourself.



[Edited on September 20, 2006 at 11:09 PM. Reason : freakshow]

9/20/2006 11:08:35 PM

there is a really hot rumor that Gamestop/EB stores will begin taking pre-order deposits on Friday September 22nd, and you will have the option to pay for the $50 minimum deposit any way you damn well please

sign up for the mailing list on EBgames.com, that should keep you up to date on the reservations of the system itself

9/20/2006 11:09:52 PM

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"At first I assumed this was a joke. But it looks like it's pretty official. The new console from Nintendo will be called the Wii (pronounced We)."

you got the very first post wrong. pwnt.

9/20/2006 11:10:40 PM

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"again, MOST gamers dont play w/ wives and their kids. they play with their friends. MOST people will just need to take their wiimotes for a trip."

Even if "most" gamers don't play with their wives and kids, the whole fucking point to this console was to get them, your grandparents, your aunt and uncle, your neighbors, and so forth to start playing these games on this console.

For example here was one of their concept videos... the first two scenes show 4 controllers in use.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=ig8gVlYpnNM

Of course this is not how every game is going to be played but it was to be a focus. THere is no reason Nintendo could not offer a Remote and Nunchuck for $40... much more reasonable (and they can afford to take a small loss at least somewhere).

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"no, most is a plurality"

Most implies mopre than just plurality... "many" would be the right word.

Quote :

"1. in the greatest quantity, amount, measure, degree, or number: to win the most votes. 2. in the majority of instances: Most operations are successful. 3. greatest, as in size or extent: the most talent. –noun 4. the greatest quantity, amount, or degree; the utmost: The most I can hope for is a passing grade. 5. the greatest number or the majority of a class specified: Most of his writing is rubbish. 6. the greatest number: The most this room will seat is 150. 7. the majority of persons: to be more sensitive than most."

It does imply

9/20/2006 11:36:37 PM

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"in the greatest quantity,"

thats what i said

9/20/2006 11:40:19 PM

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"There is no reason Nintendo could not offer a Remote and Nunchuck for $40... much more reasonable"

agreed. A price that high completely flies in the face of everything Nintendo is saying they're wanting to do. It's $10 more than the 360 controller for cryin out loud

9/20/2006 11:46:20 PM

well the controller is the main feature of the wii.. so it's more expensive

what is so hard to understand about that?

9/20/2006 11:54:15 PM

there is such a thing as price differentiation and it has been empirically proven that raising the price (to a certain limit) will actually increase demand for an object

9/20/2006 11:56:02 PM

even assuming that you add $60, this is still on of the cheapest console launches ever once you consider inflation.

9/21/2006 12:04:06 AM

Heh, someone must've been reading their issue of Game Informer..

9/21/2006 12:06:33 AM

game what?

9/21/2006 12:06:57 AM

$60 remote with built in sensors and shit.

similar xbox controller would be $79

9/21/2006 12:15:40 AM

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"even assuming that you add $60, this is still on of the cheapest console launches ever once you consider inflation."

Then so was the 360. When you consider the Wii is old technology I wouldn't consider it well-priced. Its more Gamecube 1.2 than next-gen yet is priced like a next-gen console. When they aren't pumping the money into HD, HD-DVD, advanced processing and graphics power, and such then there is no real reason to inflate the price. THey are the only company trying to make a profit on hardware. We all know they don;t have to worry about covering the hardware investment so its intentional gouging of their trusted market.

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"$60 remote with built in sensors and shit. similar xbox controller would be $79"

Odd... I paid about $20 for my motion sensor controller a half decade ago.

9/21/2006 12:25:16 AM

you can compare that 60 dollar remote to xbox's 50 if you like, but you can get both wired and third party controllers for much cheaper. they arent as nice, but you can still play. ill be interested to see if they make and how much 3rd party nintendo controllers will be.

9/21/2006 9:33:07 AM

the point is pretty much moot.

yeah the controller might be worth $60.

but we were promised a uber-affordable console.

The Nintendo Wii is not it.


I would rather they bundle an extra controller than that POS game they're forcing down our throats. It is not FREE, cuz Japan doesn't get it bundled and their price is ~$40 less.
Not to mention they get Opera for free, and we probably won't.

9/21/2006 10:47:19 AM

Well I was gonna get a Wii, but I think I'll hold off for another 3-4 years or so.

9/21/2006 10:56:30 AM

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"but we were promised a uber-affordable console. "

where did nintendo promise this?

9/21/2006 11:05:19 AM

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"you got the very first post wrong. pwnt."

Do tell, what did I get wrong exactly?

9/21/2006 11:28:27 AM

youll figure it out

9/21/2006 11:30:18 AM

I figured out that you're an idiot. But I already knew that.

9/21/2006 11:33:49 AM

then you didnt figure that out....durr

9/21/2006 11:34:51 AM

You confirm it with every post you make.

9/21/2006 11:35:59 AM

dont you mean, you figure it with each new post?

9/21/2006 11:36:50 AM

9/21/2006 1:24:24 PM

Holy shit. This is kinda scary. I priced out all the things I wanted to get on launch day and it came up to $574.66.

9/21/2006 6:45:27 PM

what all did you price?

9/21/2006 7:54:49 PM

Extra Controller with nunchuck. 2 classic controllers (might not get those if wavebirds work) and 4 games.

Doesn't seem like $600 worth of stuff.

9/21/2006 8:06:37 PM

wave birds prolly wont work..but normal game cube controllers work

9/21/2006 8:15:25 PM

it looks from the placement that they wont work, or maybe you could get 1 or 2 in. worst case you might be able to use extension cables to run to the wavebird controller plug, naw mean?

9/21/2006 8:19:05 PM

the idea of a wii sounds cool, but not at launch

nothing is really grabbing me as a system seller, other than "a new way to play games"

people pay for a prettier product, it shows that its money well spent

thats like buying a 2006 honda, then buying a 2004 honda cause it handles differently

may be a horrible analogy, but thats all I got

9/21/2006 8:20:42 PM

to be honest, nothing is really sellin me at launch except for zelda. i'm still debating with myself whether thats worth it.

9/21/2006 8:29:17 PM

wavebirds will work

9/21/2006 8:32:13 PM

I guess that confirms it then.

Wavebirds won't work.

9/21/2006 8:57:01 PM

when mario party comes out, ill consider it.

9/21/2006 8:57:04 PM

http://www.nintendorevolution.ca/08302006/21/nintendo_wii_to_support_gamecube_wavebird



[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 9:19 PM. Reason : ]

9/21/2006 9:18:31 PM

I just wanted to force you to post a link to back up your claim.

[Edited on September 21, 2006 at 9:38 PM. Reason : look I can post a picture too. ]

9/21/2006 9:34:38 PM

http://kotaku.com/gaming/gamestop/fresh-gamestop-wii-preorder-details-202170.php

9/21/2006 9:52:41 PM

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"I just wanted to force you to post a link to back up your claim."

which is why i didnt do it

9/21/2006 11:00:42 PM

Zelda and Wario Ware are good enough for me. Next year we should get Metroid, Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Bros. It'll be great to see what they can do with Mario Party on the Wii too.

I expect Wavebirds to work. IIRC, even the DK Bongo Drums will work on the Wii.

9/21/2006 11:18:38 PM

so the wii has 2 mem slots for the cube

what about mem slots for 64?

why not let it all just be on the SD cards? probably bc they are still selling cube mem cards.

[Edited on September 23, 2006 at 9:05 PM. Reason : 243]

9/23/2006 9:04:39 PM