Hoculi cost the Chargers a GAME...Joyce fucked up but Detroit still won

I'm not defending him, but its not like other sports are perfect, they all have some amount of human error

6/3/2010 9:29:02 AM

^ the argument I have is that baseball prides itself on individual records and stats throughout its history. It's how the sport compares generations. NOT through wins/losses.

6/3/2010 9:40:06 AM

yeah, I think Selig should do something about this


but we all know he won't

6/3/2010 9:41:56 AM

oh shit supposedly Joyce is calling the DET/CLE game today

6/3/2010 9:52:05 AM

The funny thing is. Had they used instant replay on that call alone the game wouldve been shorter.


And Bud doesn't have the stones to reverse this.

6/3/2010 11:15:56 AM

if he had called him out and he had actually been safe (so he was awarded a perfect game that in fact should not have been a perfect game) there is NO WAY they would go back and take away the perfect game.

6/3/2010 11:20:26 AM

i'll get flamed for this, but who gives a fuck

after looking at the replay 5000 times, I can see why he may have thought there was a bobble. ball hit the palm, then rolled to the sno-cone position, then pitcher popped the ball out to reposition it

6/3/2010 11:20:38 AM

The ump didn't say he bobbled it. He told Leland right after that he thought the runner was safe. Bobbling was never the call. Granted the ump couldve tried to save his ass by saying it was a bobble but the call was the runner beat the catch.

6/3/2010 11:28:03 AM

the runner did beat the catch, since the catch wasn't made until the ball was secured in the mitt

6/3/2010 11:32:38 AM

what

6/3/2010 11:54:46 AM

in real life speed its REALLY close...if you look at the glove then at the foot like tehy are supposed to do, its REALLY REALLY close.

however, the ump has been doing this for 22 years.

6/3/2010 11:58:44 AM

Just give the kid the perfect game, Bud.

6/3/2010 12:02:32 PM

they just showed it again in slow motion on Sportscenter

only an idiot can dispute that call

6/3/2010 12:04:54 PM

Quote :

"in real life speed its REALLY close..."

Honestly, it wasn't really even that close. They make calls closer than that three or four times a game. It was an atrocious call and really an outrage. In my opinion, ANYTHING close in that situation should be given to the pitcher.

6/3/2010 12:06:58 PM

I liked what Kurkijan said when asked whether Joyce should have given Galarraga the benefit of the doubt: don't give anyone the benefit of the doubt ever, just make the right call.

6/3/2010 12:16:03 PM

i think part of it probably had something to do with his angle to the bag too. it's blatantly obvious when they show the replay from the side that the runner was out, but joyce was basically on the foul line. i guess umpires have to stand there to try to stay as far away from a batted ball as possible, but it certainly didn't help the call. it really was a bang bang play.

6/3/2010 12:16:56 PM

Quote :

"it really was a bang bang play."

He was out by at least two feet

Nothing bang bang about it

6/3/2010 12:17:43 PM

you guys dont seem to understand.

you are TAUGHT as an umpire to look GLOVE first then bag. make sure the ball is in the glove then go straight to the bag.

in the amount of time it took for him to have the ball completely in the glove it makes it REALLLLLLLLLLLY close in real life.

in addition, the pitcher placed his foot on the back side of the bag, had it been on the front it would have been a little more obvious.

Glove then foot. watch it in real time speed and its closer than you think.



but then again, however, the guy has been doing it for 22 years like I said he has made closer calls than that everyday of his life. he should have gotten it right and he didnt.

he owned up to it, what else can you do?

6/3/2010 12:21:50 PM

i like bucky

6/3/2010 12:29:05 PM

ncstatetke

look. If your not trolling, stop being an idiot. Everybody involved in the situation agreed the call was wrong. EVERYBODY. Stop trying to be devil's advocate for no reason. The current prediciment is how MLB should rectify the situation.

6/3/2010 12:30:33 PM

I feel like there's too much complaining about the fact that the jinx worked. We put the jinx in, umpire made the call to destroy the perfect game as planned.

6/3/2010 12:38:32 PM

If he had gotten a perfect game, Reggie Jackson was going to kill the queen

6/3/2010 1:11:01 PM

Quote :

"He was out by at least two feet Nothing bang bang about it"

safe or out, it was a split second between galarraga's foot and donald's foot hitting the bag. that basically constitutes a bang bang play. when you break it down to the ridiculous like this



it doesn't appear close at all. as people have said, joyce makes tougher calls all the time and should've made this one. i just don't think anyone can honestly watch the play in real time and not say that it was very close.

6/3/2010 2:56:06 PM

completely agreed^

6/3/2010 2:57:27 PM

completely agreed^

6/3/2010 2:57:27 PM

Quote :

"The Tigers started play at 1:05 pm today, with umpire Jim Joyce (the guy who blew the perfect-game call last night) scheduled to call balls and strikes. Joyce came onto the field with his crew, holding back tears. There's probably nobody more upset about what happened than him. Galarraga brought out the Tigers lineup card and shook hands with Joyce and the others gathered at home plate, in a place where all could see. Standing ovation from the crowd. What happened last night was unfortunate. Everyone knows it. Galarraga and Joyce have handled this with an enormous amount of grace and dignity. An e-mailer pointed out that it's almost a blessing that Joyce messed up the call, because now everyone can see how grown ups are supposed to behave."

6/3/2010 3:02:48 PM

It was close in real time.

6/3/2010 3:02:51 PM

some Chevy dealership gave Galarraga a 2010 Corvette convertible

6/3/2010 3:06:01 PM

Obama awarded him an honorary citizenship

6/3/2010 3:08:22 PM

the governor of michigan declared it a perfect game

6/3/2010 3:10:06 PM

dude looks like Tony Parker

6/3/2010 3:14:05 PM

Selig not gonna overturn the call

6/3/2010 3:32:20 PM

He's been invited to Buckingham Palace to be knighted

6/3/2010 3:40:23 PM

He gets to bang Kendra.

6/3/2010 3:43:11 PM

what a pussy

(bud selig, not kendra's)

6/3/2010 3:52:29 PM

Bud Selig is an asshole

6/3/2010 3:56:17 PM

Is pitching good this year or are teams just awful?

6/3/2010 4:35:14 PM

thats the million dollar question

6/3/2010 4:37:36 PM

teams are just awful.

6/3/2010 4:37:56 PM

are the Rays awful?

cause Dallas fucking Braden threw a PG on them

6/3/2010 4:41:16 PM

It's complete luck that 2 have been thrown so far (yes 2). Nothing more nothing less.

6/3/2010 6:12:25 PM

*2

6/3/2010 6:15:25 PM

I wish some hardcore baseball researcher would watch the previous 20 perfect games to see how many times an ump blew a call that kept the perfection going.

6/3/2010 6:40:08 PM

There have only been 20 in history, and most of them are probably not on film.

6/3/2010 6:49:44 PM

^^ someone from baseball prospectus probably started doing that immediately after that call last night

[Edited on June 3, 2010 at 6:50 PM. Reason : ^]

6/3/2010 6:50:26 PM

Yes, Treetwista, the Rays are awful. Getting perfect gamed counts as like 5 losses. It was ridiculous.

6/3/2010 7:22:49 PM

fuck you bud selig, that will be all

6/3/2010 7:35:03 PM

I don't care about games 50 years ago. The game last night was a perfect game fuck bud. Galaraga is my new favorite player.

6/4/2010 12:50:21 AM

Bud Selig can lick the shit out of my ass.

6/4/2010 1:03:31 AM

unreal they wont reverse that.

Naturally, after hearing about this I assumed this was a super close call that the umpire just missed when you watch it in slow motion.

Then I see it wasn't even freaking close? Honestly, what in the flying fuck happened there....

I've never seen an umpire miss a call that wasn't close in my entire life. These guys make split second calls every day and almost never miss one and then suddenly he misses a routine play that a 35 year old t-ball volunteer dad could get right 100% of the time?

I think the situation just caused the guy's heart to skip a beat, eyes water, and brain seize up to the point where he just folded under the pressure. What a meltdown, inexplicable call...

[Edited on June 4, 2010 at 1:07 AM. Reason : how can you justify not reversing this as a commissioner. Bud Selig is a horrible human.]

6/4/2010 1:06:52 AM