God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Allegedly that car I photographed has +500hp. 2/11/2008 8:28:41 AM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
uggh 2/11/2008 8:40:53 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I think there's a decent chance they may stick the new M3's motor in it's final years like they did with the Z3M cars. If that pans out, it would actually be a good buy, as well as a superior performing vehicle.
" |
that would rock. hard.
i'm almost positive i'd go for that over a C6, and would definitely go for it over a cayman s.
Elise is still very high on my list.
[Edited on February 12, 2008 at 1:55 AM. Reason : of course, how is the Z4-M coupe chassis and suspension compared to, well, an M3?]2/12/2008 1:54:59 AM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A stock evo's powerband drops off in the upper RPM's.
A new TL would might actually walk it 100mph +.
The brick like aerodynamics doesn't help either." |
with a shitty driver...and it also depends on if it was a rolling start or from a stand still. A proper evo launch would put him way ahead off the line.2/12/2008 10:47:12 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Yea but I'm not talking about a direct launch, I'm talking about from a roll on the highway-
"100mph +"
Unless you want to brake boost on the highway and leave your transmission behind your car, you'll be walked.
Off the line its no contest though. Not even remotely close. 2/12/2008 11:08:44 AM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
those negro evo/sti can get walked by my civic on the highway.
a real race isnt after 120.
its the hole shot that counts.
you gotta live your life one street light to the other. 2/12/2008 11:32:00 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Were you born stupid or did work hard at it later in life? 2/12/2008 2:22:54 PM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
lets line 'em up b0' 2/12/2008 2:47:57 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yea but I'm not talking about a direct launch, I'm talking about from a roll on the highway-
"100mph +"
Unless you want to brake boost on the highway and leave your transmission behind your car, you'll be walked.
Off the line its no contest though. Not even remotely close." |
not if he's talking about a modded Evo which I think he is.2/12/2008 3:19:42 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
just to clarify, he's talking about a suzuki tl... not an acura tl. i think you all might be confused.
also, brake boosting isn't going to leave any transmission behind, it doesn't create much if any more stress than a hard pull from a roll. hard launching from a dig will though... 2/12/2008 3:24:35 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
haha i was thinking an acura TL 2/12/2008 3:28:05 PM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
haha. acura TL will probably walk my dog.
but thats about it 2/12/2008 3:30:30 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
Best car posted in this thread:
2/12/2008 3:41:00 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
lol.. it walked this
does that clear things up?
2/12/2008 4:14:29 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
haha, suzuki TL...that makes a lot more sense. 2/12/2008 4:43:43 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
wow I feel dumb... yeah I thought you meant acura tl... I was definitely confused... I was thinking, "um, I definitely don't remember it being that fast... but then, I guess the evo must REALLY runs out of gear higher up...."
lmfao 2/12/2008 5:03:21 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
this one was fast up top. specially when that big as turbo spooled and he was sprayin the shit outta his aquamist shit. 2/12/2008 5:08:38 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
^I believe it... I was flipping through a sport compact car a while back that featured some seriously high-hp evos (800-1000) and while the on-turbo power was crazy, below the boost, a stock evo would just romp 'em.... hilarious lag.... seriously... what's the point there? to so injure drivability in around town and in 20-45 mph tight turns (where an evo monsters a lot of faster cars) only to be able to win at some stupid high-mph race that isn't the foray of evos anyway?
just silly. 2/12/2008 5:28:35 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
just because some people choose to live with lag or are too dumb to know otherwise doesn't mean you have to. 2/12/2008 6:12:43 PM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Or they are drag cars where that doesn't really matter. 2/12/2008 6:52:17 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
vr00000000000m psh vr000000000000000000000000000m pshhhhhhhh 2/12/2008 7:10:03 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
I bet money I could build that Fiero up and take gloveko out. 2/12/2008 7:42:57 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
http://brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=372875
Quote : | "mitsibishi because they suck" |
theglove circa 2005.
[Edited on February 12, 2008 at 8:46 PM. Reason : g]2/12/2008 8:46:02 PM |
danmangt40 All American 2349 Posts user info edit post |
^omfg wow 2/12/2008 8:50:28 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
2/12/2008 9:38:12 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
You have to understand, Glove Co. is like a leaf. Whichever way the wind blows. 2/12/2008 9:45:58 PM |
Ahmet All American 4279 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt he'd consider any other Mitsubishi, or argue that there aren't many other manufacturers that offer better quality. Let's not kid ourselves here, people buy EVOs for very few reasons, namely performance and the fun drive, and not much else... Ahmet 2/12/2008 11:56:26 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
i'd add the 4-doors, real backseat and trunk, and in some cases AWD to the list
but yeah, few people are buying for looks, and i can't imagine anyone buying for quality of either the car or the company...or really for any other reason besides wicked performance per dollar (and for some people, the most badass driving experience money can buy that also brings every day family sedan practicality to the table). 2/13/2008 12:30:05 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Or they are drag cars where that doesn't really matter." |
it definitely still matters. anyone half way serious about drag racing with a big turbo car is going to have anti lag and a two step in their software.2/13/2008 2:46:05 AM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
ivan dont you love when people talk out of their asses? 2/13/2008 8:28:17 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
So who's gonna help me with the fiero? 2/13/2008 8:44:21 AM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
Golovko, SandSanta, and God so they can again become friends. 2/13/2008 9:43:20 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
they used to be such great pals. 2/13/2008 9:49:37 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Hey now
Aside from God being the definition of failure, I like both those kids.
Except Type R powr. He's a dumb nig that blows up integra motors and has his friends run over their axles while driving. 2/13/2008 9:51:32 AM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
whoa whoa whoa
i aint blow up no integra moter' 2/13/2008 9:56:44 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
so whats the first thing i need to do to my fiero to get it on the track? 2/13/2008 10:18:15 AM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
and what happened to gronkes mr2?
That thing was SWEET
at hitting curbs on pullen. 2/13/2008 10:21:55 AM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
you dont need to do anything really. just go out and drive. then once you know what you are doing. then you can start doing stuff to it.
unless you are already a world class driver. 2/13/2008 10:35:33 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
PIC OF LANCER HATCHBACK...
HAWT HAWT HAWT
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2008/02/mitsu_proto_spy_1280-op.jpg
2/13/2008 1:34:01 PM |
Type R PowR Suspended 690 Posts user info edit post |
id rather have the orange wheels 2/13/2008 1:38:53 PM |
Arab13 Art Vandelay 45180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And to my sister its not a toyota" |
why are some women like this?
^^ looks like a crossfire...
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 1:56 PM. Reason : s]2/13/2008 1:55:22 PM |
SoundBoy4 All American 2436 Posts user info edit post |
wtf happened to the b pillar. 2/13/2008 1:56:33 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
where has that fag scrumples been hiding?
I'm sure if you search through all 12 pages of this thread you will see me say Mitsubishi's suck several times. Why? Because Mitsubishi's do suck big time. Unless you're buying an Evo why in God's name would you buy a Mitsubishi?
But thanks for post stalking me crumps
Quote : | "You have to understand, Glove Co. is like a leaf. Whichever way the wind blows." |
hey kid, how's that lawsuit coming along?
god being the definition of failure
Quote : | "you dont need to do anything really. just go out and drive. then once you know what you are doing. then you can start doing stuff to it.
unless you are already a world class driver." |
he's just trolling lol....we all know scrumps can't drive his grandmothers WRX worth a shit, let alone on track.
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 3:39 PM. Reason : .]2/13/2008 3:37:57 PM |
Mr Scrumples Suspended 61466 Posts user info edit post |
I'll fucking own your ass on the track with a saab. 2/13/2008 5:09:43 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
there's the trolling we missed.
NOT. 2/13/2008 6:50:05 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
whats this this talk about evo quality? mitus in general maybe, but specific to this model whats the problem??? my understanding is that 4g63 is a very reliable engine. anything that could possibly go wrong on that engine has already been addressed. damn thing has been in production for over 10 years. 2/13/2008 7:05:39 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
well, in 22k miles, mine has:
1. long since been rattling HORRIBLY in the interior
2. shit a clutch
3. CEL on
4. front-end shake
the dealer has:
1. been unable to fix (or maybe they didn't really try)
2. unwilling to fix under warranty, though offered to do it for $2300
3. claimed Mitsu is "working on" a software patch for the ECU, but for the time being, just reset it and keep driving
4. unable to fix 2/13/2008 7:12:47 PM |
1in10^9 All American 7451 Posts user info edit post |
anecdotal...
you might have a lemon...doesn't mean all cars are that problematic 2/13/2008 7:27:03 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52839 Posts user info edit post |
1. Don't know, but the interior is very crappy and cheap (save the seats).
2. Very, very, very common problem--to the point of being par for the course--according to the internet, the dealer, and the independant shop that fixed mine. When I called the dealer, they'd just done an Evo clutch at 5k miles the day before. I talked to the independant shop twice before taking my car in--in each case, they'd either done an Evo clutch the day before or had one in the shop at the moment.
3. Common problem, according to the dealer. Said he's seen 3 other cars come in with same problem (and this is in Burlington, WA...not a big city or big dealership. In fact, it's not even strictly a Mitsu dealership).
4. Very common problem, according to internet.
http://mitsubishisucks.com/cars/models/lancer/
http://www.evolutionm.net
read up a little.
also, I was told by the dealer's service manager that they would void the ENTIRE warranty if they found any modification (i.e., they'd void engine warranty for suspension mods, or even something like a cat-back, which is generally accepted as "ok"). I informed him that they couldn't legally do that, and even if they wanted to disregard the law and get away with it like most dealerships do, precedent still wasn't on their side.
Then I finally said "Besides all that, why would I give a fuck if you void my warranty? It's not like you're going to honor it even if it's not voided." [Edited on February 13, 2008 at 7:38 PM. Reason : asfd]
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : and it's not like Mitsu really deserves the benefit of the doubt.]
[Edited on February 13, 2008 at 7:45 PM. Reason : also said they'd void my warranty if I had an OEM clutch installed by an independant shop.] 2/13/2008 7:38:06 PM |
SoundBoy4 All American 2436 Posts user info edit post |
No problems whatsoever with mine though. Of course i drive like an old man and have only had the car a bit over a year. 2/13/2008 8:34:40 PM |