i think the other people in your league can't draft if you got the #1 RB, arguably the #1 WR and Brady who will be a top 3 QB, not to mention the #1 DEF.

9/2/2007 2:51:24 PM

yeah... how many teams are in that league?

9/2/2007 2:57:17 PM

8 people in league

9/2/2007 3:03:14 PM

he's in a 2 team league, I am the other owner, we could draft from past years though. My starters:

QB: Peyton Manning '04
RB: LT '06
RB: OJ '75
WR: Jerry Rice '87
WR: Jerry Rice '93
TE: Kellen Winslow '80
FB: Larry Centers '96 (IDK why he didn't draft one)
K: I'll just play the matchups, probably pick up whoever is playing the '81 colts that week
DEF: Bears '85

I think I will win the league

9/2/2007 3:12:16 PM

Lol turnip. here are the other teams....
team 1
Drew Brees
WR Larry Fitzgerald
WR Andre Johnson
WR Reggie Brown
RB Reggie Bush
RB Maurice Jones-Drew
TE Vernon Davis
K Josh Brown
Def Carolina
BN Braylon Edwards
BN Tony Romo
BN Darrell Jackson
BN DeAngelo Williams
BN Carnell Williams

team 2

QB Jon Kitna
WR Chad Johnson
WR Lee Evans
WR Hines Ward
RB Joseph Addai
RB Laurence Maroney
TE Antonio Gates
BN Edgerrin James
BN Jerricho Cotchery
BN Matt Leinart
BN Benjamin Watson
K Nate Kaeding
DEF Miami
BN Denver

team 3

QB Marc Bulger
WR Terrell Owens
WR Roy Williams
WR Mark Clayton
RB Steven Jackson
RB Willie Parker
TE Todd Heap
BN Calvin Johnson
BN Clinton Portis
BN Chris Cooley
BN Eli Manning
K Jeff Wilkins
BN Adam Vinatieri
DEF Pittsburgh

team 4
QB Philip Rivers
WR Torry Holt
WR Marques Colston
WR Anthony Gonzalez
RB Larry Johnson
RB Brian Westbrook
TE Jeremy Shockey
BN Vince Young
BN Anquan Boldin
BN Jamal Lewis
BN Randy McMichael
K John Kasay
DEF Philadelphia
BN Dallas

9/2/2007 3:35:35 PM

team 5
QB Peyton Manning
WR Steve Smith
WR Laveranues Coles
WR Santana Moss
RB Brandon Jacobs
RB Travis Henry
TE Kellen Winslow
BN Adrian Peterson
BN Thomas Jones
BN Jerious Norwood
BN Jason Witten
BN Marion Barber III
K Jason Elam
DEF Minnesota

team 6

QB Donovan McNabb
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR Reggie Wayne
WR Javon Walker
RB Shaun Alexander
RB Frank Gore
TE Tony Gonzalez
BN Ronnie Brown
BN Vincent Jackson
BN Jay Cutler
BN Heath Miller
K Shayne Graham
DEF San Diego
BN Seattle

team 7
QB Carson Palmer
WR Donald Driver
WR Plaxico Burress
WR Joey Galloway
RB Rudi Johnson
RB Cedric Benson
TE Dallas Clark
BN Deuce McAllister
BN Drew Bennett
BN Brett Favre
BN Joe Horn
K Neil Rackers
DEF Baltimore
BN New England

9/2/2007 3:44:24 PM

guy offered me brandan marshall and heath miller for laveraneous coles and kellen winslow

i would get marshall and miller

my instinct is no

9/2/2007 7:34:43 PM

why the fuck would you even consider that trade

9/2/2007 7:41:31 PM

guy offered me nick goings and charlie batch for chad johnson and frank gore

i would get goings and batch

my instinct is no

9/2/2007 7:49:51 PM

my friend offered me rob bironas and phil dawson for steven jackson and frank gore in a keeper league

i would get bironas and dawson

my instinct is yes

i suck

9/2/2007 8:01:46 PM

guy offered me tim biakabatuka and a used condom for ladanian tomlinson and torry holt

i would get biakabatuka and the condom

my instinct is no

9/2/2007 8:07:05 PM

I didn't really
it was pretty absurd, but it also made me think I was missing something

9/2/2007 9:22:14 PM

you're missing the joke

9/2/2007 9:32:53 PM

alright i need some help in this decision. this could be the trade to end all trades right here...

someone offered me:

philip rivers, l. maroney, and antonio gates

for

peyton manning, jones-drew, and todd heap

now i've been tryin to get rid of jones-drew for a while now (with greg jones back, and fred taylor healthy, i just don't really like his potential this year) and i think maroney is going to be a beast. i'd be losing peyton, but picking up gates and rivers isn't a bad combo at all. i need some help

any suggestions!?

9/2/2007 11:10:20 PM

that doesn't sound like a good deal at all.

9/2/2007 11:16:10 PM

^

9/2/2007 11:30:47 PM

i didn't think it was that bad.
gates > heap
maroney > jones drew

i'm in a league where QB touchdown passes only count 4, not 6. so rivers might not put up peyton manning numbers, but he'll only be about 5-10 points behind him every week. and gates and maroney should make up for that. and like i said greg jones should get a lot of goal line touches in jacksonville. and fred taylor looked pretty damn good in the preseason too. so i'm not all that big on jones-drew this year

[Edited on September 3, 2007 at 11:46 AM. Reason : ]

9/3/2007 11:45:16 AM

yep. think i'm gonna do it. for those that care

9/3/2007 2:44:16 PM

if it's 4 pts/passing td, then it becomes an ok trade

maroney > jones-drew
gates > heap
manning >> rivers (instead of >>> in a 6 pt/td league)


you gain two >'s and lose two

this is the least scientific post possible

9/3/2007 4:59:16 PM

just like a turnip

9/3/2007 5:12:18 PM

my team before waivers and trades and all the good stuff

QB
Peyton Manning
Daunte Culpepper

WR
Marques Colston
Hines Ward
Isaac Bruce
RB
Ronnie Brown
Julius Jones
W/T
Ted Ginn Jr.
W/R
Kevin Faulk

BN
Muhsin Muhammad
Vernon Davis
Sinorice Moss

K
Nate Kaeding

DEF
Tampa Bay

Defensive Players

D

Julius Peppers
Dwight Freeney

DB
Champ Bailey
DeAngelo Hall

DL
Derrick Burgess
Cato June

BN
Lito Sheppard
Mike Peterson
Adewale Ogunleye

working a trade to get bush for mushin/lito though, still debating to pull the trigger on that one

got some molding and shaping to do, in a 14 team league and me having 8th pick the players went quick

9/3/2007 8:59:24 PM

need my second QB

Alex Smith, Joey Harrington or Steve McNair?

I'm leaning toward smith, but for some strange reason I think harrington might actually perform this year

9/3/2007 10:48:08 PM

definitely mcnair, harrington is awful and smith hasn't proven anything yet

9/3/2007 11:39:17 PM

I would say go with Smith.

He is without a doubt a risk, but the reward is that he has great receiving weapons in Davis, Jackson, and Gore, as well as deep threats (which they led the league in 30+ yd passes last year) in Battle and Lelie.

I really think he has the potential to be solid this year.

I am not sold on McNair as much just because of how much a defensive/running team they are. Compound that with the fact that Clayton, their #1 WR, is not 100%, and I think he is more of a gamble this year than in years past.

As for Harrington, it will take alot more than 2 quarters of preseason football for him to ever warrant a roster spot in a FF league with less than 16 people. While I think he will have a few solid games this season, the overwhelming majority will be sub-par.

Go with Smith as your backup.

- The Guru

9/4/2007 9:55:07 AM

I got a question for The Guru: Who of my WRs should I start for week 1?

I have:
Reggie Wayne (Obvious Starter)
Jericho Cotchery
DJ Hackett
Mark Clayton (Sprained both ankles earlier in the preseason)
Darrell Jackson (Didn't practice on the 3rd due to Hamstring)
Terry Glenn (Out for Week 1)

I just can't decide... I was leaning towards Cotchery and Jackson but I keep second guessing myself.

More info: 3 WRs starting, 10 yds = 1 pt, 1 TD = 6 pts.

So what do you think?

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 10:07 AM. Reason : Scoring]

9/4/2007 10:05:51 AM

Which 3 out of these 5 running backs would YOU start in week 1:

Willie Parker
Willis Mcgahee
Adrian Peterson (The good one)
Marshawn Lynch
Deshaun Foster

9/4/2007 10:09:39 AM

9/4/2007 10:33:59 AM

^hahahahahahahaha

9/4/2007 10:56:10 AM

^^AHAHHAHAHHA...Hilarious!

^^^ The first two, no question. The other three are in RBBC's. It's too early in the season to be benching either Willie or McGahee for one of the rookie's or a Panther.

^^^^ Good Sit-Start question.

Obviously, you go with Wayne....and I would also go with D-Jax and Hackett. Both have alot of upside and will be in good matchups this week in what could be high scoring games. Glenn is out (as you said), and Clayton is a wait and see. Cotch is always a good option, but with the return of Asante Samuels on defense and the NE Defense looking so good, I would hold off on him for this week. Keep a close eye on what the Seahawks decide on Hackett/Burleson. Hackett's lackluster preseason has kinda had him in the doghouse from a FF perspective, but his 1st child was born in week 2 of the preseason, so the productivity concerns dont really bother me that much. He is so atheletic and strong, he is a great WR to own this year....but, if for some reason Holmgreen decides to be clever and start Burleson instead of D.J. (and you should know this by Friday), start Cotch instead.



[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 11:07 AM. Reason : asdf]

9/4/2007 11:05:58 AM

WR Question:

Start 3:

Starters:
Andre Johnson - definite starter
Reggie Brown - GB has solid CB's, but McNabb had a solid outing against them last season
Calvin Johnson - Oakland has a solid D but Roy Williams should draw some attention his way

Bench:
Braylon Edwards - going against a solid D and has Frye throwing, not looking good
Dennis Northcutt - has looked good in the preseason, Tenn defense isn't good, but the QB situation is a hastle.

I could potentially see starting Northcutt over CJ because Northcutt is a #1 compared to CJ who is a #2/3.

9/4/2007 12:21:55 PM

A couple of things about Johnson. First, there are other proven targets, I doubt a rookie will put up big numbers until at least several games into the season. A good QB will go to his clutch receivers who he can count on, and Detroit has no shortage of those. Second, the Oakland defense, if I remember from last year, is pretty damn good against the pass. I think they were REALLY good. Third, I think the game is in Oakland (can't remember, again....check on that) and if so, that's a really hostile place for a rookie to play, especially when their home field is a dome.

9/4/2007 3:11:17 PM

also Calvin isnt even starting week 1...he'll play, don't get me wrong, but look for Williams and Furrey to get more action...thats per Calvin Johnson's Yahoo! player card info, btw

Quote :

"Sep 3 Detroit Lions rookie WR Calvin Johnson is not entering the season in the starting lineup, as the coaching staff wants him to earn a starting role rather than just handing it over to him."

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 3:15 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2007 3:14:31 PM

Also many people don't realize that Oakland had the 3rd ranked defense last year despite their awful record, so its not an automatic start for your fringe guys when they play the Raiders.

9/4/2007 3:16:31 PM

yeah the idea last year was to play a defense that was playing the raiders since their offense was really bad...their defense was solid

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2007 3:17:34 PM

Right but as lot of less savvy players just look at records and think "Oh Oakland sucks, my guys will dominate vs them".

Also I've been picking up Selvin Young in my leagues. Denver officially moved Mike Bell to fullback so Young is Travis Henry's main backup. And we know Henry has a history of injuries, along with his boycott on prophylactics.

9/4/2007 3:21:34 PM

^lol, I just dropped bell and picked up young this morning.

My big money league draft is today. different scoring system than I have ever played

Quote :

"QB- TD / 0 to 39 yds = 6 pts 40+ yds = +6pts for 12pts total -1pt for fumble or interception +1pt bonus for every 25 yds rushing +5pts for 300+ yds passing RB & WR- TD / 0 to 39 yds = 6 pts 40+ yds = +6 for 12pts total -1pt for fumble or interception +1pt bonus for every 25 yds rec or rushing FG- 0 to 35yds = 3 pts 36 to 45= 5 pts 46 to 50= 7 pts 51 + = 10pts TD Extra Point= 1 pt Two Pt Conv- 4 pts to scorer Def/ Specialty Score- = 12 pts/ for TD: by fumble return, interception return, safety, blocked FG return, blocked punt return, recovered fumble in end zone, KO fumble & return. Defense Score- QB sack = 1 pt Interception = 1pt Fumble Recovery = 1pt Shutout- = +20 pts Tie Breaker: longest FG "

scoring is by far the big emphasis here, no points for receptions or carries and QBs have inflated importance.....any suggested strategies?

9/4/2007 3:41:42 PM

^Find a league that doesn't have shitty scoring. Besides that, hope to god you get a top QB.

9/4/2007 3:48:33 PM

So a QB throws for 280 with no picks and 4 short TD's = 24 points

Another QB throws for 300 with 3 picks and 2 long TD passes = 26 points




Big plays are more exciting, but shouldn't be any more valuable. If so, then marginally, not double.

9/4/2007 3:53:37 PM

Is Selvin Young a better pickup than Droughns? I have not been impressed with Jacobs this preseason and I'm not sure how he will last an entire season with a full workload. However the Giants offensive line is not as good as Denvers and I could easily see both team splitting carries until someone shines.

It's too early to say for sure and both are just waiver gambles but should I drop Droughns for Young?

9/4/2007 4:08:26 PM

No matter who gets more work in NY, Jacobs will still get the goal line carries. Remember, he stole all of Tiki's TD's the past 2 years. In Denver, the guy who carries between the 20's is the guy who usually gets the touchdowns as well. Although Shananan does like to throw those 1-3 yard TD passes to his tightends a lot which is basically just a big "Fuck You" to Fantasy players.

9/4/2007 4:14:35 PM

TEAM:

QB: Drew Brees
QB: Steve McNair
RB: LT
RB:Jamal Lewis
WR: Anquan Boldin
WR: Torry Holt
WR/RB: Braylon Edwards
TE: Vernon Davis
K: Jason Elam
D: Baltimore

BENCH: Thomas Jones, Terry Glen, DaShaun Foster, JP Losman

Would you start thomas jones/terry glen despite knee/calf injuries over jamal lewis/braylon edwards?

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 4:20 PM. Reason : ee]

9/4/2007 4:20:27 PM

Need some advice on who to start in week 1 of my standard scoring league:

We play 2 RB and a RB/WR.

Willis McGahee
Ahman Green
Clinton Portis
Jamal Lewis

Specifically, what do you think of Portis this year? I mean before last year, he would have been considered a top 5 RB, right? Now it seems like everyone thinks he's chopped liver...

9/4/2007 4:24:51 PM

Because he's been hurt a lot recently and Betts had over 1100 yards last year. McGahee and Green are obvious. Lewis plays Pittsburgh and Portis plays Miami, so 2 tough matchups there. I start Portis...the skins have a better O-line.

9/4/2007 4:33:59 PM

agreed.

McGahee and Green are your starters for week 1, at least until Lewis or Portis show some promise and/or have a good matchup to exploit.

The word is though that Portis is basically 100% and Gibbs wants to keep him under the radar. I am not that low on Portis, and I think he could have a great year...but's at this point, it's foolish to start him without seeing exactly how all of this will pan out.

BTW, I promise to go more indepth on some tougher questions. I'm at work, so I have to pick my questions to devote lots of time to!



Oh crap, I see you can start 3 RB's....

Start Portis. Pittsburgh will air it out and score early, forcing the Browns to throw and abandon Lewis, who not only is a power runner, but not a great threat out of the backfield in passing situations either.

The Redskins and Miami will both have trouble on offense, which will lead to more chances for the RB's to be involved, even late into the game. This one will be a defensive battle, but I like Portis over Lewis this week.

- The Guru

[Edited on September 4, 2007 at 4:42 PM. Reason : asdf]

9/4/2007 4:39:00 PM

I don't think Portis will ever be healthy again, and he might split 50/50 with Betts (with Betts getting td carries), that's why people are down on him.

McGahee and Green are your RB's

As for flex, if it were me I'd go with Lewis, but since you drafted Portis you probably expect him to do better, and Miami will probably give up more rushing yards than Pittsburgh.

9/4/2007 4:42:11 PM

I had Portis as my #3 starter anyways, but it's kinda a 50/50 so I thought I should ask.

Thanks Guru and company!

9/4/2007 4:44:38 PM

yo guru, what do you think about vernand morency? dom rhodes is NA for whatever reason, and he's available

9/4/2007 6:20:13 PM

Dominic is NA because he is suspended for the first 4 games of he regular season due to violating the NFL's substance abuse policy (DUI).

He's not really worth the headache. I like Morency, but the fact that he has barely, if at all, participated in the Packers preseason workouts really bothers me.

Neither are that great of a pick, but if I had to, I would go with Vernand simply because he is one of two RB's on a team, with the other being a rookie.

Go with Morency.

9/4/2007 6:30:04 PM

Okay here is my last draft. I think i did okay. I am weak on QB and lack depth at RB, and we start 3 WRs and I found out afterwards I drafted 3 Wrs on the same bye...stupid. But I did it for a reason because I have a friend in the league that stole Rivers from me and is a Buckeyes fan, and I have several Bucks on my team. So I predict a trade after week 1 after Rivers plays the Bears.

1. (11) Laurence Maroney
2. (14) Brian Westbrook
3. (35) Roy Williams
4. (38) Andre Johnson
5. (59) Santonio Holmes
6. (62) Chicago
7. (83) Anthony Gonzalez
8. (86) Jason Witten
9. (107) Alex Smith
10. (110) Julius Jones
11. (131) Anthony Thomas
12. (134) Shayne Graham
13. (155) Joey Harrington
14. (158) DeShaun Foster
15. (179) Michael Jenkins

I have a questions though, do I start Holmes vs Cle or Gonzalez vs NO?

Here is my likely starting lineup

QB Alex Smith
WR Roy Williams
WR Andre Johnson
WR Santonio Holmes
RB Laurence Maroney
RB Brian Westbrook
TE Jason Witten
K Shayne Graham
DEF Chicago

9/4/2007 8:18:33 PM

I've already documented my terrible auto-draft earlier in this thread, but now that I have an abundance of TE's, which to start this week.

Gates vs. da Bears(tough D)
Tony G vs. Houston(anemic O)
Vernon Davis vs. Arizona(a middle-of-the-road D)

Typically I'm going to just go with Gates, but the Bears LB core is solid.

9/5/2007 1:52:09 AM