Quote :

"Who will be our 2 guard starting this year? G Degand G Fergie/Mays/Javi??? F Fells F Costner C McCauley Oh, and is Johnny Thomas going to be back this year? "

Im pretty sure thomas will play this year, my bet on starters is this

PG Degand
SG Ferg
SF Fells
PF Costner
C McCauley

10/26/2008 1:04:48 AM

unless javi and degand have gotten a lot better since last year, our offensive production from our guards is going to suuuuuck. of course that's no news, since we were terrible last year. but dang javi and degand couldn't even finish layups around the rim when they got there (degand especially...he'd use his speed to get to the basket but couldn't put it in).

so it's no wonder sid is saying we're going to run, run, run this year. we're going to have to.

although hopefully ferg will be a legitimate three-point threat. (and iirc he was actually finishing around the rim some towards the end of last year). and judging from just the scrimmage last week, javi's shot looked better.

10/26/2008 2:24:19 AM

based on the scrimmage i would like to see degand, fells, and thomas on the floor at the same time alot, that would be one hell of an athletic backcourt and would really allow us to run like lowe says we will

10/26/2008 2:27:39 AM

based on the scrimmage, javi is way better than degand.

10/26/2008 10:45:11 AM

goddammit

i don't think there's enough xanax in the world to get me through this season

10/26/2008 11:38:27 AM

But plenty of herbs, son. Plenty of herbs.

10/26/2008 1:45:45 PM

wow, it's not even Nov yet and this thread already reached 12 pages.

10/26/2008 1:48:36 PM

Quote :

"unless javi and degand have gotten a lot better since last year"

What kind of idiot would assume players don't get better from year to year?

10/26/2008 1:48:50 PM

an ncstate fan

10/26/2008 1:54:05 PM

^ lol yarly.

um.... i said a lot better...not just better

also, did you see ben and brandon play last year? that answers your question.

10/26/2008 4:48:54 PM

http://tinyurl.com/62pne7

Anybody know this girl?

[Edited on October 27, 2008 at 8:03 PM. Reason : ]

10/27/2008 7:47:54 PM

Yeah, I found her website

http://www.tinyurl.com

10/27/2008 7:51:40 PM

lol she looks alot like a girl I know from back home... wow, she dated Hansbrough?

10/27/2008 7:53:13 PM

Want tickets to the State vs. Davidson basketball game in Charlotte? Well go here and order some. They're pretty cheap right now. I just picked up 3 in the upper deck along one of the sidelines for $25 ea., but total it was $94 b/c Ticketmaster charges a "convenience" charge for each ticket. There are other seats available for $15. If you live in the Charlotte Metro area like I do this could be a good way to see the Pack. Let's Pack out the Time Warner Cable Arena aka The Cable Box.

http://tinyurl.com/5f2zu7

10/27/2008 8:47:44 PM

11.10
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10/27/2008 9:19:30 PM

I wish that exams were done before then

10/28/2008 6:22:35 AM

Looks like we have a solid bench though, we basically have a decent sub for each of our positions. We could potentially have a 10 player rotation with a sub at each position.

G Degand (Javi)
G Ferg (Mays)
F Fells (Thomas)
F Costner (Horner)
C McCauley (Smith)

Lowe has mentioned he wants to get Mays, and Horner playing time this year...and Smith did well at the end of last year that i'd imagine he'll get minutes. So if Thomas ends up being decent we might see a lot of players getting minutes.

Then again we will probably see Fells back and forth between SG and SF, and a lot of others can play multiple positions.

10/28/2008 11:01:50 AM

2008-09 ACC Men's Basketball
Preseason Media Picks (40 voters)
Rank Team (1st place) Points
1 UNC (40) 480
2 Duke 436
3 Wake Forest 354
4 Miami 344
5 Clemson 306
6 Virginia Tech 298
7 Maryland 192
8 Georgia Tech 186
9 NC State 179
10 Florida State 145
11 Boston College 123
12 Virginia 79

10/29/2008 10:28:07 AM

Quote :

"So if Thomas ends up being decent we might see a lot of players getting minutes."

i'm not holding my breath. not b/c he's bad player, but b/c he looks nowhere close to playing shape on his knee.

10/29/2008 10:34:40 AM

^^its wide open from 1-6

deep conference



[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 1:13 PM. Reason : good thing they dont do divisions or it would be crazy imbalanced like football]

10/29/2008 1:12:14 PM

More like wide open from 3-9. UNC will most assuredly win the conference, and Duke returns almost everyone from a team that won 28 games.

10/29/2008 1:56:12 PM

UNC has the most talent but this isn't football and depth has diminishing returns. Duke Wake and Miami have better guards and enough talent upfront to play anybody. It will come down to chemistry, coaching and officiating none of which are guaranteed. Then you have to remember its basketball, one guy can get hot any night and its over. I'm not gonna say any names.

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : also you can't assume unc improved more than other teams that brought guys back. they maxed out anyw]

10/29/2008 2:19:18 PM

^^^lol, I love this guy

[Edited on October 29, 2008 at 2:20 PM. Reason : ^^^]

10/29/2008 2:20:03 PM

The ACC is:

1) UNC
2) Duke











then everyone else

10/29/2008 2:20:41 PM

FSN releases college basketball schedule
http://blogs.newsobserver.com/sportsmedia/fsn-releases-college-basketball-schedule

10/29/2008 2:22:14 PM

http://www.zagsblog.net/2008/10/28/durand-scott-down-to-three/

Would be a huge get for Miami... I hope he doesn't go there.

10/29/2008 2:58:55 PM

Quote :

"Want tickets to the State vs. Davidson basketball game in Charlotte? "

Are the lower level seats all gone???

10/29/2008 3:22:55 PM

quite a shame the season hasn't even started and 4 top16 teams are already out of their conference race. Why even play the games when people on the wolf web know exactly what will happen?

Hows that UGA OSU championship looking for you guys in the more predictable sport?

10/29/2008 4:39:11 PM

who thought osu would get past usc aside from our resident osu-fags?

10/29/2008 4:40:31 PM

Normally I'm not one to guarantee a team winning a conference, but UNC is so stacked that it'd be one of the biggest coaching fuckups if they didn't win the conference, much less make the Final Four. Roy should be fired if they don't win the ACC, and they better make the Final Four, or else they won't be too happy in Chapel Hill. In this day and age you don't have players of UNC's caliber coming back for their junior and senior seasons. Who was the last NPOY to come back to school (provided they had eligibility left)? You have to go all the way back to Ralph Sampson who after winning most of the NPOY awards in 1981 as a sophomore, came back not just once, but twice and won the NPOY awards two more times.

Now move along troll.

10/29/2008 5:03:13 PM

Best team since the 1999 Duke National Champions

10/29/2008 5:08:00 PM

the last team i remember being this hyped was the Okafor UConn team that beat GT in the national title game... the fulfilled the hype that year.

10/29/2008 5:22:55 PM

so you're telling me Duke Wake and Miami absolutely CANT beat them?

10/29/2008 5:27:04 PM

Did I say anything about them being invincible and that they won't lose. No I didn't. Stop trolling.

10/29/2008 6:03:36 PM

Miami is so overrated. they remind me of the UVa teams from the early-2000s that were always ranked in the pre-season polls then didn't even make the NCAAs

10/29/2008 6:12:20 PM

Quote :

"Best team since the 1999 Duke National Champions"

i'd take 2001 Duke over 2008 UNC any day... that team started 4 players that are doing pretty well in the NBA.. i'm not sold on ANY of the current UNC players making a big impact in the league. but that's just me.

10/29/2008 7:06:07 PM

i don't think any of them will make an impact in the league either... and apparently neither do they or else they would've jumped ship already. they are, however, good college players.

10/29/2008 7:18:00 PM

Some great pics of David Thompson. Some of them are unreal.

10/29/2008 7:25:09 PM

I love the pic where he's soaring over bill walton

10/29/2008 7:34:35 PM

http://www.metronc.com/article/?id=424

Article on Everett Case and his importance to college basketball particularly in this state. It is a very good read.

10/29/2008 7:40:14 PM

My predictions for Maryland:

Nov 14 Bucknell - W
Nov 18 Youngstown St. - W
Nov 21 Vermont - W
Nov 27 at (18) Michigan St. - L
Dec 3 Michigan - W
Dec 7 Geo. Washington - W
Dec 12 Delaware St. - W
Dec 22 American - W
Dec 27 Bryant - W
Dec 30 Elon - W
Jan 3 Charlotte - W
Jan 7 Morgan St. - W
Jan 10 Georgia Tech - W
Jan 14 at Miami (FL) - L
Jan 17 at Florida St. - W
Jan 20 Virginia - W
Jan 24 at (9) Duke - L
Jan 27 Boston Coll. - W
Jan 31 Miami (FL) - L
Feb 3 at (1) North Carolina - L
Feb 8 at Georgia Tech - W
Feb 14 Virginia Tech - L
Feb 17 at (22) Clemson - L
Feb 21 (1) North Carolina - L
Feb 25 (9) Duke - L
Mar 1 at N.C. State - L
Mar 3 Wake Forest - L
Mar 7 at Virginia - W

17-11 (6-10)

I see Maryland as anywhere from 6-10 to 8-8 in conference play and will be considered a bubble team for much of the season. Non-conference teams that I think could upset them or give them a scare include Bucknell (the kings of upsetting big conference teams), Vermont, Michigan (perhaps Beilen's team in year two will improve a fair amount), George Washington, and Charlotte (they beat a much better Clemson team in Littlejohn last year). It should be noted that Maryland is in the Old Spice Classic and will have other games against opponents not on this schedule.

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 12:37 PM. Reason : ]

10/30/2008 12:36:56 PM

My predictions for GT:

Nov 14 Winston-Salem State - W
Nov 22 at Mercer - W (why the hell are they playing this game at Mercer?)
Nov 25 AR Pine Bluff - W
Nov 28 Jacksonville - W
Dec 3 Penn St. - W
Dec 6 (19) Vanderbilt - L
Dec 14 Ill. Chicago - W
Dec 17 Georgia St. - W
Dec 20 at Pepperdine - W
Dec 22 at USC - W
Dec 28 Virginia - W
Dec 30 Tennessee St. - W
Jan 3 at Alabama - W
Jan 6 Georgia - W
Jan 10 at Maryland - L
Jan 14 (9) Duke - L
Jan 17 at N.C. State - L
Jan 20 Boston Coll. - W
Jan 25 at (22) Clemson - L
Jan 31 Wake Forest - L
Feb 5 at Florida St. - L
Feb 8 Maryland - L
Feb 11 at Virginia Tech - L
Feb 14 N.C. State - W
Feb 18 at Wake Forest - L
Feb 22 (22) Clemson - L
Feb 28 at (1) North Carolina - L
Mar 4 Miami (FL) - L
Mar 7 at Boston Coll. - L

15-14 (3-13) Paul Hewitt is fired at the end of the season. Derrick Favors comes to State.

10/30/2008 2:03:34 PM

My predictions for Miami:

Nov 15 Florida Southern - W
Fri, Nov 21 Southern Miss - W
Sat, Nov 29 Stetson - W
Tue, Dec 2 Ohio St. - L
Sat, Dec 6 at Kentucky - L
Fri, Dec 12 Florida Intl. - W
Dec 14 Robert Morris - W
Dec 21 (22) Clemson - W
Dec 27 at St. John's - W
Dec 31 North Florida - W
Jan 3 N.C. Central - W
Jan 5 Florida Atlantic - W
Jan 10 at Boston Coll. - W
Jan 14 Maryland - W
Jan 17 at (1) North Carolina - L
Jan 21 Florida St. - W
Jan 25 Virginia Tech - L
Jan 27 at N.C. State - L
Jan 31 at Maryland - W
Feb 4 Wake Forest - L
Feb 7 at (9) Duke - L
Feb 15 (1) North Carolina - L
Feb 18 at Florida St. - W
Feb 21 Boston Coll. - W
Feb 26 at Virginia - W
Mar 4 at Georgia Tech - W
Mar 7 N.C. State - W

19-8 (10-6)

10/30/2008 2:13:52 PM

My predictions for UVA:

Nov 16 Virginia Military - W
Nov 19 South Florida - W
Nov 21 Radford - W
Nov 25 Liberty - W
Nov 28 at Syracuse - L
Dec 2 at Minnesota - W (should be a tight game)
Dec 17 Longwood - W
Dec 20 Auburn - W
Dec 23 Hampton - W
Dec 28 at Georgia Tech - L
Jan 3 (12) Xavier - W (Xavier shouldn't be ranked that high preseason considering who they lost; I think UVA will be able to win a close game against them at home)
Jan 6 Brown - W
Jan 10 at Virginia Tech - L
Jan 15 (1) North Carolina - L
Jan 20 at Maryland - L
Jan 24 Florida St. - W
Feb 1 at (9) Duke - L
Feb 4 Boston Coll. - L
Feb 7 at (1) North Carolina - L
Feb 10 at Florida St. - L
Feb 15 (22) Clemson - L
Feb 18 Virginia Tech - L
Feb 21 at N.C. State - L
Feb 26 Miami (FL) - L
Feb 28 Wake Forest - L
Mar 3 at (22) Clemson - L
Mar 7 Maryland - L

11-16 (1-15)

If UVA wins more than 4 games in conference then Sylvan Landesberg is the real deal. This team lost Singletary, a reserve guard that was going to contribute a fair amount this year, perhaps even start, is now possibly out for the year, and the big German kid Mikalauskas was kicked off the team.

10/30/2008 2:53:40 PM

who's the guy that commited to NCSU that can shoot better than JJ Reddick based on High school performance. It will be good to have sharp shooter like that.

10/30/2008 3:14:08 PM

^scott wood

10/30/2008 3:15:16 PM

Quote :

"i'd take 2001 Duke over 2008 UNC any day... that team started 4 players that are doing pretty well in the NBA.. i'm not sold on ANY of the current UNC players making a big impact in the league. but that's just me."

all of those four (duhon, dunleavy, battier, and boozer) are starters or would be if not for current injury. and while nothing is a sure thing most assume jason williams would be a starter and maybe the best of this bunch if not for his accident.

unc: lawson may start in the league, ellington wont (bench guy), ginyard def. no, deon thompson not now, and hansbrough maybe (but probably not). give me duke 2001 as well.


also, just for something to discuss; i found this while screwing around on scout, per the duke scout page. lists top colleges for nba players and total salary:

Quote :

"Most Players in the NBA - 2008-09 Opening Day Duke: 14 Connecticut: 12 UCLA: 12 Kansas: 11 North Carolina: 11 Kentucky: 9 Arizona: 9 Florida: 9 Georgia Tech: 9 Michigan State: 8 Texas: 8 2008-09 Highest-Paid College Alumni Groups in the NBA Duke: $74,307,096 Arizona: $73,621,905 North Carolina: $69,082,854 Connecticut: $66,523,212 Kansas: $61,359,781 Georgia Tech: $48,528,657 Michigan State: $45,785,710"

[Edited on October 30, 2008 at 3:43 PM. Reason : .]

10/30/2008 3:37:25 PM

Its basketball time.... in Tennesseeeeeeeeeeeeee

10/30/2008 3:50:46 PM

^^That really shows how little Lute Olsen does with talent.

10/30/2008 5:18:12 PM

Well a good chunk of that money is coming from the guys that got him the 1997 National Championship and lost to Duke in the National Championship game in 2001.

10/30/2008 6:29:50 PM