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11/29/2009 3:54:42 PM

How about being an actual RPG with actual dialog? Or having a good story with good voice acting?

Oblivion was cool for the modding aspect but as an RPG it sucked.

11/29/2009 3:57:39 PM

Voice acting schmoise acting. Everyone talks about how they reused the same 7 voices in Oblivion, but it never bothered me. And I've noticed more than a few room fulls of guards in DAO that not only have the same voice, but the same 2 lines, so this game isn't immune to that either. The story in Oblivion wasn't bad. Maybe the main story wasn't as good as the one in DAO, but it was decent and the side missions were a lot better and WAAAAAAY more involving. Hell, each one of the sets of guild missions in Oblivion were longer than the entirety of DAO.

And I never modded Oblivion, so I can't speak on that, but unmodded, it was still 3-4 times more entertaining than DAO.

11/29/2009 5:18:00 PM

Different strokes I guess, but I don't think Oblivion was as good as any Bioware RPG, especially DA which is their best in a while. Only the Dark Brotherhood line can compare with DA's story, and that was only 4 hours or so. Fallout 3 was superior to Oblivion also.


Dragon Age is definitley not a "Loot" game, so if you're looking for that I can see how you would be disappointed.

[Edited on November 29, 2009 at 6:51 PM. Reason : ]

11/29/2009 6:50:17 PM

what's better, dragon age or demon's souls?

11/29/2009 6:52:32 PM

i have both.. demon's souls is rediculously hard. but i like the combat better. you are actually in control of your attacks instead of hitting X and letting him attack for you. DA is more like a movie that you just kinda play along to, and there are very hard areas, but nothing you won't get through. I'd say DA because I pretty much stopped playing Demon's Souls once I got the other one in, and haven't started back yet. They're both pretty solid though

11/29/2009 6:55:33 PM

I guess I've got one more complaint about locked chests...

It would be nice if I could just unlock the things with my main character just by having a rogue in my party. Kind of annoying having to switch back and forth between characters just to take care of utility tasks.

11/29/2009 10:27:53 PM

Been hearing all the same complaints: lock-picking sucks, no storage, this or that class is weak, I want better gear, etc etc.

Just so you know, there is a mod for that

http://www.dragonagenexus.com/downloads/categories.php

11/29/2009 10:54:12 PM

Quote :

"Dragon Age is definitley not a "Loot" game, so if you're looking for that I can see how you would be disappointed."

Yeah, that was surely my main beef with the game.

11/30/2009 12:06:49 AM

In the dwarf city was there an option to not work for Lord Harromont? Cause Behlen or whatever seems better to me.

11/30/2009 6:18:44 PM

^you can work for either of the two candidates

11/30/2009 6:34:12 PM

I only found Harrowmont. I never found anyone that would let me help Behlen.

11/30/2009 7:18:10 PM

If you're a dwarf noble you can only work for harrowmont (for obvious reasons if you've played it)

11/30/2009 7:52:14 PM

I am a lower cast.....maybe I made a decision or something....

11/30/2009 8:39:55 PM

I could tell by the way the game was phrasing it that it wanted me to pick Behlen, but I didn't want to. Oh well, they both die in the end.

11/30/2009 9:43:34 PM

Just played a mage for 2.5 hours. I definitely didn't want to help Jowen and his bitch but did to escape. It was definitely worth it to see him pull off that bloodmage move though. Are the arcane blasts and AOE fire blast you start out with the best moves for damage? I'm not a big fan of moves that waste mana increasing attack or defense but if they are the best I'll use them. I am level 3 and got the move that steals health from enemies and upgraded it once to the move that takes health from dead enemies. Any suggestion for spells to acquire as I level more? I'll probably get some spells to heal others since you work in a team but that's all I've seen other than lightning that I like but that damages teammates.

11/30/2009 10:38:05 PM

I've been browsing this thread every so often and this game looks pretty fun. I picked it up on sale on Amazon, so we'll see.

11/30/2009 10:57:06 PM

^^ supposedly the "cone of cold" or whatever.. 3rd on the ice thing, is a real good one to freeze people so your warriors can get good hits in. also, theres one down near the bottom that doesn't let people heal themselves.. could come in handy against stronger opponents

11/30/2009 11:11:21 PM

So I made it all the way to the final battle on Hard, and deleted my character and started over as a blood mage. That way playing it through again on Hard as a mage, will still have the suspense of the ending. I'm so addicted, lol.

12/1/2009 12:09:09 AM

^^Cone of cold is fucking awesome, and it has a pretty fast recharge time. One of my favorite things to do is freeze a stack of enemies and shatter the lower level people with the stone fist spell (3 mages = boom). I spec'ed my character as a damage dealer: I've got the full fire and cold tree and half of the nature damage one (for the fist and armor buff). I've also got the full telekinetic tree (for the weapons buff and the prison spell). One of my favorite things to do is fireball + prison on highest ranking enemy + inferno, and cone of cold for anybody who charges me.

I made Morrigan an arcane warrior, a choice I would have taken for myself if I didn't like being an AoE badass. Her resists are maxed and she takes hardly any physical damage, though she can't cast for shit anymore.

Wynne is only healing and buffs, and backup artillery.

One great tactic is to get Alistair (or whoever you have tanking) to aggro all the enemies in a room, put a force field around him, and then just lay on the AoE spells while he can't get hurt by anything.

12/1/2009 12:18:25 AM

Yeah the telekenetic tree is a good one. The first spell in the tree (mind blast or something?) is great crowd control if you're getting attacked. Force Field is great to put on the most powerful enemy in a group (but you have to make sure the rest of the party doesn't keep attacking it) so you can deal with the rest of the bad guys while the boss is frozen. And crushing prison is just awesome all the way around.

Also, IMO the top tier elemental spells aren't worth taking. Sure they are powerful, but the charge up time is huge, and the AoE is so big it's almost certain to hit your own party as well.

Misdirection Hex and Death Hex are also great.

12/1/2009 11:27:08 AM

I use AoE spells mostly through walls because Alistair can sense all enemies everywhere.

12/1/2009 5:44:03 PM

I took Wynne up to petrify (didn't know any better early on). It proved to be a pretty useful spell. For any enemy without a colored name, you pretty much could kill them with a petrify+stone fist combo. Even some of the colored names you could kill them towards the end. Worst case, it buys you some time by freezing particularly annoying enemies for a period.

In hindsight though, I probably should have picked a different tree of spells to go up.

12/1/2009 11:29:27 PM

I found shape-shifting to be utterly useless

12/2/2009 1:15:26 AM

has anyone found out if at any point in the game i can drop this shitty dagger and dual wield two longswords?? thanks

12/2/2009 1:41:01 PM

It's there in Dual Weapon Fighting - one of the final tier abilities.

12/2/2009 1:51:21 PM

Finished my first playthrough last night. Dwarf commoner dual wield warrior. Played through as "good" as I could. I liked the way the ending screens hinted at the consequences of all your actions...

Starting again as an elf mage...probably going evil this time...

12/2/2009 2:22:13 PM

^^ahhh...i see it now. thanks for pointing it out

12/2/2009 3:33:26 PM

this game is no WoW It's not very pretty. I miss WoW.

12/4/2009 9:18:51 AM

Thank GOD this game is no WoW

And you thought WoW was pretty?

12/4/2009 9:33:24 AM

^^

Are you serious? Either you are running the game on one shitty-ass PC, or you simply don't know what you are talking about. Note, this game looks best on PC, and it blows WoW graphics out of the water.

12/4/2009 9:42:22 AM

^^ it was colorful. This game has NO COLOR. Everything is so boring looking. Yeah, the graphics are great but everything is so blaaaaand.

12/4/2009 10:07:17 AM

Oh, well I can see how if you want butterflies and fairies and unicorns shitting rainbows then WoW would be your preferred game.

12/4/2009 10:08:20 AM

Quote :

"NEON COLORED HAIR"

12/4/2009 10:46:49 AM

^^THat's exactly what I want, damnit. I'm a girl, I grew up on barbies dressed as fairies, not gi-joes clad in gray and brown. I like violence but I also like pretty shit, gd it.

12/4/2009 10:52:35 AM

WoW's artwork aged very well. So much so that it still looks modern.

This games artwork won't age well and really nothing that aims for realism and gritty environments does.

That being said, pretty colors doesn't work when you're battling a fucking horde of demons

12/4/2009 2:24:09 PM

WoW has only aged well because it wasn't even impressive when it came out.

[Edited on December 4, 2009 at 2:33 PM. Reason : And it would only look "modern" on the wii]

12/4/2009 2:32:47 PM

spoilers


So when you are storming Denerim and you have the fighters to call up to fight with you if you need it, I had 4 of the 5 warrior options filled. I had Dwarves, Elves, Mages and two humans I think. What is the 5th?

12/8/2009 6:40:20 PM

Golems?

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

12/8/2009 6:41:54 PM

^^i had drawrves, elves, uhh templars.. one more.. human warriors? something like that, i was wondering what the other one was too, maybe i missed the mages somehow and you missed the templars

12/8/2009 6:45:48 PM

Spoilers


You can't have both mages and templars

The templars only come if the mages are all dead

You can also get werewolves, but only if you sacrifice the elves. I don't know what the 5th slot is for.


end spoilers

[Edited on December 8, 2009 at 6:57 PM. Reason : ]

12/8/2009 6:57:02 PM

holy crap this game is addictive

i just got it this weekend and if my final wasn't scaring me shitless i don't think i would have gotten anything productive done

12/8/2009 8:01:39 PM

I didnt actually use any of the "armies" I had. I did almost all the sub quests and I am rolling through this last level.

I will admit, kudos to Bioware to finally be able to rip through these fuckers after having everything scale to you through the game.

12/8/2009 8:08:43 PM

all i know is, I''m 10 hours in as a rogue and i JUST fucking figured out about traps and shit

12/8/2009 11:27:06 PM

I finished the game and never ended up using any traps

I also never used any armies because I always told myself... If I use them now I won't have any left for the difficult battle that is sure to come.

12/9/2009 7:57:04 AM

Shoot I used all of them. The Elves were useful because they just stood back and plinked the bad guys with their bows, and didn't get in your way. The mages were the worst because they cast fireballs constantly that would knock you on your ass when you were trying to stab somebody.

[Edited on December 9, 2009 at 12:13 PM. Reason : ]

12/9/2009 12:13:06 PM

I only fought 3 dragons. I assume I got them all because god damnit I tried by hardest to do everything I could

12/9/2009 5:43:25 PM

Did anyone find a reason for those damn glass vials with the demon trapped in it? I think I might have missed something with the quest for the "evil force doing shit in the background" quest."

12/9/2009 5:49:43 PM

Is storm(the huge AoE lightning spell) any good? I just got it and it seems like the area is so huge that I'm hurting just about my whole party with it. Also, anybody know a good way of using walking bomb without hurting my allies?

12/30/2009 12:56:00 AM

I don't remember exactly, but I think lightning storm is a pre-requisite to chain lighting, which is really useful because it doesn't hurt your party members (it could be the other way around, though). I only used lightning storm in conjunction with inferno, to damage large groups of enemies before they could really see me. Inferno is much better in my mind because of the continuous fire damage.

12/30/2009 1:12:41 AM