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"^ The black turnout during the primaries were nuts. I bet more blacks turn out to vote as a percentage of their eligible voters than any other group. They are very excited about Obama, and they have a right to be, IMO. "

Of course blacks are excited he is going to increase their handouts so they can continue being a burden on society. They get to pay less taxes not that they paid them anyways, collect welfare checks and pop out bastard childs.

9/4/2008 9:11:57 AM

wow, how do you really feel?

9/4/2008 9:12:52 AM

Ah, good ole racism. Pay no mind that the largest number of people who receive government entitlements are white.

9/4/2008 9:55:38 AM

This week they seem to have given up running against Obama/Biden. Instead they are running against the media, in hopes of giving their base an "us vs them" mentality while hoping to intimidate the media from digging into Palin's record.

9/4/2008 10:24:34 AM

Front page of CNN.com. Recently changed, but fucking lmao:





HEIL!


HEIL!


HEIL!

9/4/2008 10:25:22 AM

i'm laughing so hard i might change my vote b/c of that!1111

9/4/2008 10:28:29 AM

one thing i've learned from this convention is that community organizers are the real scourge on america.

oh yeah and reading suspects their rights is for pansies.

9/4/2008 10:32:05 AM

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"community organizers"

lol

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"suspects"

lol

9/4/2008 10:35:19 AM

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"We have a surplus. "

I would point out that flush with oil revenues, Alaska is probably the one state that has the least problems with balancing their budget at this point.

9/4/2008 10:36:42 AM

no need to point it out, anybody that pays any attention and has some logic can see having a surplus in alaska isnt exactly hard. Its not like there's a lot of expenses compared to other states, and they rake in oil money.

9/4/2008 11:16:05 AM

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""That's just the liberal media bias." yeah, no shit. look how liberal that media is"

If you read the articles instead of just the headlines, there is a little bit of bias there.

I guess though, according to hooksaw, just reading headlines is a great way to form an opinion.

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"It was a Speech to Nowhere when Palin said that "I told the Congress 'Thanks but no thanks' on that Bridge to Nowhere, because that was a lie, and the worst kind of lie in American politics, a blatant falsehood that showed utter contempt for the American people that Palin pledged to serve, assuming we are too stupid to look up or know that truth, that she pushed for those funds in Congress and while she got great political mileage out of announcing that she was killing the project, she still has not returned the funds to American people. It was a Speech to Nowhere because Palin also boasted seconds before that other lie of fighting against wasteful earmarks in Congress, even though she pushed for and accepted $27 million of such grants when she was mayor of Wasilla. "

-http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Sad.html

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 12:22 PM. Reason : ]

9/4/2008 12:07:38 PM

http://blogs.courant.com/roger_catlin_tv_eye/2008/09/community-organizers-are-jokes.html

And why are the Republicans bashing community organizers? They constantly talk about how people should do stuff without the government, but when people actually do that, they are made fun of? That makes no sense...

9/4/2008 1:13:55 PM

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"And why are the Republicans bashing community organizers?"

probably the same reason Obama was bashing mayors

9/4/2008 1:19:00 PM

because they dont want "community people" to get involved, and acting all uppity like they got some kind of interest in government. that's just for the "country-club people". THEIR people.

9/4/2008 1:19:35 PM

^^ Obama was bashing mayors? really?

9/4/2008 1:21:20 PM

^

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"Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin’s town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We’ve got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years,” Obama said."

9/4/2008 1:23:47 PM

you were able to misconstrue that to "bashing mayors"

good job

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 1:24:56 PM

if the republicans were construed as bashing community organizers, you're god damn right obama was bashing mayors

he's saying his experience in a political CAMPAIGN makes him more qualified to run things than someone's political experience in a political OFFICE

9/4/2008 1:25:47 PM

seems to me like he was simply pointing out that her "executive experience" as a mayor is a tad overstated.

9/4/2008 1:28:12 PM

if thats how you choose to misconstrue what he said

9/4/2008 1:29:12 PM

^^^ and you're a goddamned fool if you think his couple years as a community organizer when he was fresh out of law school, even remotely describes his experience.

palin was mayor of a tiny hamlet, and then crooked governor of the least populous state.

obama was Illinois State Senator, U Chicago Professor of Constitutional Law, and United States Senator ... all for a combined number of years that doubles Palin's paltry experience. this doesnt even count community organizers.



[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : ]

9/4/2008 1:30:23 PM

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"palin was mayor of a tiny hamlet, and then crooked governor of the least populous state."

Obama was "Senator" (when he bothered showing up) of one of the most corrupt states in the nation, and then he started not showing up and began campaigning for President

note: law professor != political experience

omg i TA'd a political science class i have experience

9/4/2008 1:31:59 PM

tree, you really are incorrigible man. it's a shame

9/4/2008 1:34:42 PM

well when someone actually responds to joe_schmoe's rabid lunacy thats how they come across to some people who aren't very bright

by his logic there are professors at state that have a shitload more political experience than palin or obama

your problem is simply that you read my last post as something serious and you're completely ignorant to the fact that its a direct response to the completely idiotic post before mine

9/4/2008 1:36:03 PM

oh my god, i had forgotten how completely stupid you are.

9/4/2008 1:42:22 PM

ironically you shouldve posted that in the daily show thread

just like j stewart, you want to be serious and political then when i call your ass out you come with some weak copout like that

fuck off you piece of shit

9/4/2008 1:44:37 PM

Tree twister, please explain how this:

Quote :

"Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin’s town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We’ve got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years,” Obama said."

Is as offensive as this:

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"Being a mayor is kinda like being a community organizer, except you have responsibility *riotous laughter from crowd*"

The last quote should have ended with a rimshot, but sadly the drummer was in Guantanamo bay.

9/4/2008 1:48:53 PM

first let me say i dont have a problem with either one

but if you're going to get your womens panties in a bunch over her comments about community organizers, i'd expect you to be equally as pointlessly mad and offended when obama, having no executive experience himself, downplays the role of a mayor and completely leaves out the fact that she's actually governor of a state...with more than "50 employees" and $12mil

9/4/2008 1:50:57 PM

Meeker for President.

9/4/2008 1:52:17 PM

He was responding directly to claims that she has more experience than him. He was downplaying this argument by presenting the fact that she was mayor of an extremely small town (one which, we've actually found out now, was run later by an administrator due to Palin being investigated).

If she managed a group of 50 employees, and he managed a group of 2,500, which one managed more?

9/4/2008 1:53:05 PM

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"If she managed a group of 50 employees, and he managed a group of 2,500, which one managed more?"

if she managed 50 employees, and Obama managed 5 employees, which one managed more?

i say this because she "managed" an entire state as governor, not just a city that supposedly has 50 employees, while Obama "managed" a campaign...not even comparable

9/4/2008 1:56:52 PM

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"Twista : then when i call your ass out"

ah yeah, i remember now...

when you seriously compared being an undergrad TA in PolySci at NC State... to teaching Constitutional Law as a Professor at the University of Chicago School of Law.

yes, of course. let me expound on this with a sober and rational discussion of the finer points of your sublime argument.

look here, sweetheart, the problem that you failed to recognize in your insightful analysis, is that you are a waterhead baby who has significantly diminished capacity for higher logical thought.

I hope you'll understand why I shall not carry forth any longer with you.






[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 1:58 PM. Reason : ]

9/4/2008 1:57:35 PM

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"when you seriously compared being an undergrad TA in PolySci at NC State... to teaching Constitutional Law as a Professor at the University of Chicago School of Law."

when its in direct response to you comparing being a college professor.....to being governor of a state

holy shit you're so fucking stupid...take off your god damn partisan blinders for one second

9/4/2008 2:00:39 PM

(SUM (Obama Experience)) >> (SUM (Palin Experience))

in quality and quantity.

but, i dont expect a waterhead baby like yourself to understand summation concepts from High School Algebra.

9/4/2008 2:03:20 PM

nuh uh, obama was a law professor! fuck being mayor or governor, he was a fucking law professor, thats more political than that stupid white redneck bitch

i'm not wasting any more of my time pointing out your constant double standards just so you can call me a retard and ignore your double standards

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 2:04 PM. Reason : .]

9/4/2008 2:04:16 PM

She was also an Alderwoman. Russ Stephenson for President.

9/4/2008 2:08:02 PM

Twista, are you still in here adding to your paper trail of idiocy?

9/4/2008 2:13:26 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/story/ap/20080904/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_fact_check/print

9/4/2008 2:15:01 PM

Quote :

""I guess a small town mayor is sort of like a 'community organizer,'" she said with no little sarcasm, "except that you have actual responsibilities.""

This is directly pejorative to community organizations.

Obama was not mocking Palin's job as a mayor, the republicans were mocking community organizers as useless.

edit:

It looks like Obama might have a good opportunity to discuss this with mcCain:

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"Here's a little bit of delicious irony. It's been pointed out to me tonight that on September 11, Senators McCain and Obama will appear in New York City, participating in a forum for Service Nation. The topic? Community service and volunteerism. "

- http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/04/shorter-rnc-day-three-dea_n_123798.html

[Edited on September 4, 2008 at 2:38 PM. Reason : ]

9/4/2008 2:32:40 PM

Quote :

"She opposes just about every issue that women support by a majority or plurality. She believes that creationism should be taught in public schools but disbelieves global warming; she opposes gun control but supports government control of women's wombs; she opposes stem cell research but approves "abstinence-only" programs, which increase unwanted births, sexually transmitted diseases and abortions; she tried to use taxpayers' millions for a state program to shoot wolves from the air but didn't spend enough money to fix a state school system with the lowest high-school graduation rate in the nation; she runs with a candidate who opposes the Fair Pay Act but supports $500 million in subsidies for a natural gas pipeline across Alaska; she supports drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, though even McCain has opted for the lesser evil of offshore drilling. She is Phyllis Schlafly, only younger."

I think that sums it up - they're toast

9/4/2008 2:38:52 PM

so why is hooksaw taking a break?

9/4/2008 2:41:48 PM

TreeTwista10, i like John McCain and I can understand why you are are voting for him regardless of VP. I want to know though how does Palin appeal to your political position?? Why do GOP supporters automatically accept Palin w/o question just b.c she's their boy's choice. You can still vote McCain and show your support while thinking his pick for VP is shit.

9/4/2008 2:47:07 PM

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/04/Biden.Palin/index.html

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"Biden on Palin's speech: Style but no substance # Story Highlights # Democrat VP nominee Joe Biden praised GOP counterpart's speaking skills # But "I didn't hear the phrase 'middle class,'" health care, college expense # Biden and Sarah Palin to debate on October 2 in St. Louis, Missouri # Biden figures Palin will be tough, but he wants to stick to policy issues"

I haven't heard the whole thing, but the clips I've heard sounded well delivered. From what I've heard her speech was very right wing, very divisive, and very forceful. And that is a great speech to rally the base, but not so much for attracting the independent vote. Also by complementing herself as a pitbull & delivering a negative speech in general she's opened the door for Biden to not have to worry about going soft on her in the debates.

9/4/2008 3:51:10 PM

Be afraid of the threat from Code Pink! We are under attack from (little old ladies against the war) er.... terrorists! Gotta love Fox.

9/4/2008 4:07:38 PM

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"Cindy McCain: Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000 Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500 Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000 Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000 Shoes, designer unknown: $600 Total: Between $299,100 and $313,100"

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/9/4/111819/6652/538/586281

that's one heckuva price tag

(I know it's dailykos, but it's all over the blogs)

9/4/2008 4:09:22 PM

the initial story came from Vanity Fair.

http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/09/cindy-mccains-300000-outfit.html

9/4/2008 4:10:38 PM

"Cindy McCain:
Oscar de la Renta dress: $3,000
Chanel J12 White Ceramic Watch: $4,500
Three-carat diamond earrings: $280,000
Four-strand pearl necklace: $11,000–$25,000
Shoes, designer unknown: $600

Price to witness her husband screw up his shot for president by picking a ultra-conservative right-wing christian zealot from eskimo land as his VP- PRICELESS

9/4/2008 4:28:00 PM

(*snicker*)

9/4/2008 4:44:21 PM

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"About 37 million people watched convention coverage Wednesday night, according to preliminary data from Nielsen Media Research posted by TV Week. Those numbers include viewers at the three major networks, plus CNN, Fox News Channel and MSNBC. Her speech beat comparable viewership figures from the Democratic National Convention in Denver last week, when 24 million people watched Democratic V.P. candidate Sen. Joseph Biden speak. It approached the convention-record 38 million set by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama."

schmoe what was your prediction you made about a week ago? 21 million or something?

(*snicker*)

9/4/2008 6:11:23 PM

While Palin is going divisive to rally the base (instead of talking the middle class or healthcare or anything like that to bring in independents), this is what Obama is saying while he's out retail campaigning in swing states.

9/4/2008 7:33:53 PM