rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
Too busy wasting time on Trump nonsense? More like too busy wasting time on this flag nonsense. I too am curious how this hasn't made bigger news. This is right down the alley of the 24 hr news cycle.
I seriously doubt all these fires are coincidental. 7/1/2015 8:39:14 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe the news doesn't want to start a race war....
Really good read for you idiots with a middle school understanding of US history
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/07/01/why-do-people-believe-myths-about-the-confederacy-because-our-textbooks-and-monuments-are-wrong/
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 9:20 AM. Reason : ,] 7/1/2015 9:11:28 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It must be the "in" thing to get offended by everything these days.
Used to be you focused on life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Apparently happiness now comes from being victimized" |
7/1/2015 9:26:44 AM |
Smath74 All American 93277 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wral.com/source-fire-at-south-carolina-black-church-wasn-t-arson/14748629/
Obviously not good news but hopefully this wasn't intentional. 7/1/2015 9:37:35 AM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Timing is pretty suspect as other black churches across the south have burned lately due to arson 7/1/2015 9:42:27 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
8 black churches in 10 days. No arson to be seen here people. 7/1/2015 9:48:30 AM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
I never understood people telling other people what they should and should not be offended by. Especially those 'outside' of their group. 7/1/2015 9:48:42 AM |
Smath74 All American 93277 Posts user info edit post |
And if any/all at them were arson I hope the person/people responsible are found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Their hate does not speak for the vast majority of people. 7/1/2015 9:50:33 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
EMCE 7/1/2015 9:57:09 AM |
rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
How long until people come out and say this isn't an attack on race, rather, an attack on religion? 7/1/2015 9:57:56 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
FOX did that 2 weeks ago, please try to keep up. 7/1/2015 10:00:14 AM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
The KKK have been burning black churches ever since there have been black churches] 7/1/2015 10:06:10 AM |
rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
^^They did that for the Roof guy, but I'm talking about the string of arson. 7/1/2015 10:09:25 AM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
According up Twitter, the 1995 kkk church burning was called an electrical fire at first.
Either way, we can't go on information we don't have, but that's a pretty strong trend. 7/1/2015 10:45:58 AM |
rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
Feds just came out and said it wasn't arson. I don't believe it. 7/1/2015 10:49:34 AM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe the republican party isn't racist, but it's no wonder why racists tend to be republican.
http://www.salon.com/2015/07/01/gops_baffling_trump_cowardice_a_party_too_timid_to_denounce_a_bigoted_gasbag/
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 11:21 AM. Reason : ] 7/1/2015 10:59:18 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
They made that determination real fast. Like the fucking church is still warm and they know without a doubt it wasn't arson. 8 in 10 days is all I have to say. 7/1/2015 11:08:09 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
^^ since Trump called Mexicans rapists he has soared in polls.
The GOP base just likes people who "tell it like it is."
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 11:55 AM. Reason : GOP just needs to put rape on a banned words list ffs ] 7/1/2015 11:54:02 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
10% bump for being racist. Shocking right 7/1/2015 12:20:18 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Reading his full quote in context wasn't really as bad, his point was illegal immigrants aren't the best of Mexico, but the worst. Problem is he is too stupid to say it without sounding like a moron. 7/1/2015 12:21:42 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Only ^ and HCH would come in here and stick up for Trump. They're like a tag team, of sorts... 7/1/2015 12:25:31 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
^ not to mention that immigrants tend to be the best of their country anyway. It takes way more will power and determination and resolve than the random dumb person to pick yourself up, leave everything you've ever known behind, and move somewhere else to try and establish a new life.
Trump is an idiot, and anyone who buys his dumb reasoning is equally an idiot or worse.
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 12:56 PM. Reason : ] 7/1/2015 12:56:15 PM |
rjrumfel All American 22986 Posts user info edit post |
Idiot or not, I think people are going to be surprised at how many Americans his diatribes resonate with.
Call him a racist, call him a bigot, but I think his support will be surprising. Not enough, but enough to make people raise an eyebrow. It's still gonna be Jeb with the nod. 7/1/2015 1:07:37 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "be surprised at how many Americans his diatribes resonate with" |
It's not surprising to me that a lot of Americans are idiots and bigots.7/1/2015 1:26:49 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Only ^ and HCH would come in here and stick up for Trump. They're like a tag team, of sorts..." |
I'm not sticking up for trump, I said he was stupid.
I only jump in on these things when the majority of people just yell about racism or bigotry instead of looking at the facts. Trump's comments were stupid, not racist. The KKK burning black churches is both.7/1/2015 1:29:05 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is a racist idiot. After being called out on it, he doubled down on his racist comments.
Hopefully he continues "speaking the truth" and polling highly so everyone can see what the GOP is all about. 7/1/2015 1:31:59 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I honestly don't follow Donald Trump (for good reason) but what has he done/said that is actually "Racist"?
Saying the worst of mexico's illegal immigrants are rapists and drug dealers isn't a racist statement. Just stupid and ignorant. 7/1/2015 1:38:48 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
He didn't say "the worst of mexico's illegal immigrants....".
He said:
Quote : | "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people." |
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 1:45 PM. Reason : ]7/1/2015 1:44:38 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Univision, NBC & Macy have dumps him for his "truth" telling. Stereotyping is racism, and all he did was spit out every racist nutjobs bullshit idea of what immigrants are.
It's people like Trump that plants the seeds for the Dylann Roof's of the world. 7/1/2015 1:53:12 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He didn't say "the worst of mexico's illegal immigrants....". " |
"worst" I implied from "not best", and "illegal" I implied from the context of the discussion, which was the border, border guards, a wall, etc.
Either way, still stupid and statistically not true, but not racist in my opinion.
^ Stereotyping is not the same thing as racism.
[Edited on July 1, 2015 at 1:59 PM. Reason : .]7/1/2015 1:58:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""worst" I implied from "not best", and "illegal" I implied from the context of the discussion, which was the border, border guards, a wall, etc." |
that's a bit of semantic gymanstics, but i get your point, and it's not necessarily racist, but pretty offensive to any mexican immigrant, even the millions of legal ones. So yes, very stupid.7/1/2015 2:13:04 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51908 Posts user info edit post |
I'm philosophically on board with the idea of burning churches, but singling out black churches first is just counterproductive. 7/1/2015 2:16:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
that's some black metal shit 7/1/2015 2:28:36 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
Stereotyping based on racist stereotypes is racism. ... 7/1/2015 2:31:43 PM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what has he done/said that is actually "Racist"? " |
Outside of what's currently being discussed ITT:
Quote : | "“laziness is a trait in blacks.”" |
Quote : | "“Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."" |
Quote : | ""Our great African American president hasn't exactly had a positive impact on the thugs who are happily and openly destroying Baltimore."" |
...and there's got to be more.7/1/2015 2:38:15 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Well there ya go. Yea I think he is a racist 7/1/2015 2:45:01 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " It's people like Trump that plants the seeds for the Dylann Roof's of the world." |
Especially when the media and political groups take him seriously. It makes them feel more accepted and validated.
Birmingham locally voted to remove a confederate memorial, maybe all this is leading up to an evolution in mainstream conservatives to reject racism.
It's also worth pointing on that were it not for the protests following trayvon Martin's shooting and the black lives matter movement, we wouldn't be seeing nearly the level of energy and organization driving the activists now. There's a straight line from the black lives matter to trump being disowned by businesses and the truth about why the rebel flag became popular finally being reported.7/1/2015 10:13:22 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 52879 Posts user info edit post |
Uhhh... Trump basically said "I guess there's some good people in Mexico, maybe." How the fuck is that NOT racist? 7/2/2015 12:26:12 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
That's not what he said.
"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people." 7/2/2015 11:34:03 AM |
synapse play so hard 60929 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah the first part of that statement is bad enough, but he follows it up with...yeah, i assume that are some good people, I ASSUME.
[Edited on July 2, 2015 at 11:48 AM. Reason : I love how that piece of shit is polling 2nd right now] 7/2/2015 11:46:54 AM |
Bullet All American 28263 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's not what he said." |
Yeah, that's pretty much what he said. It's much closer to what he actually said than your parapharse "the worst of mexico's illegal immigrants are rapists and drug dealers".
He basically said "Most of the Mexican's that come to America are rapists and drug dealers and criminals, although i guess there are some good ones too". It's funny to watch you try to spin it.7/2/2015 12:26:22 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Yeah the first part of that statement is bad enough, but he follows it up with...yeah, i assume that are some good people, I ASSUME. " |
That's the worst part. He is saying he's never personally met a good Mexican, that they most only exist theoretically.7/2/2015 12:29:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50084 Posts user info edit post |
I like how he makes it sound like the Mexican government is sending them here by direct order too. Like we are Mexicos Australia. 7/2/2015 12:32:05 PM |
moron All American 34036 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "She pointed out Latinos are both the youngest and fastest-growing constituency in the United States, offering Trump the following statistics: “You are running for President in a country where the Latino population grew by over 49 percent from 2000-2012, while the rest of the country grew by 5.8 percent. What's more, we are the future. The median age of the average Latino is 27 years old, compared to 42 years old for white Americans. In case you need a translation, that means there are a whole lot of Americans who are Latino and have the right to vote. And, we're not going anywhere.” " |
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/america-ferrera-donald-trump/story?id=321885157/2/2015 3:24:30 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
http://mashable.com/2015/07/02/confederate-flag-obama-tennessee/ 7/2/2015 8:09:57 PM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/3/8880193/history-confederate-flag
7/3/2015 1:54:15 PM |
BlackDog All American 15654 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article26467606.html 7/4/2015 12:15:00 AM |
beatsunc All American 10740 Posts user info edit post |
^kinda how AR-15 rifle sales spike every time they talk about banning them. for a lot of people if you tell them they cant have something they want it more 7/4/2015 6:33:01 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
7/5/2015 8:34:03 AM |
BlackJesus Suspended 13089 Posts user info edit post |
LoL, they couldn't get a Nazi flag, so they used the Confederate as a replacement. "Heritage not hate"
7/5/2015 10:13:54 AM |