Howell strikes me as more of a SF/PF hybrid. I think he has the potential to bang under the boards but his tendency to shoot scares me, its too flat of a shot. He needs to leave that to Scott Wood.

I like the lineup of Smith, Howell, Wood, Degand and Javi/Mays

if we had a decent point guard it would be a lot easier...someone that was quick and didnt mind dribble penetration like Degand.

I'd be fine if Horner never saw the court again.

[Edited on January 16, 2010 at 9:07 PM. Reason : g]

1/16/2010 9:06:20 PM

The RBC Center did something today I had hoped they would never do. They played Zombie Nation during a timeout. Who can we send and email to regarding how much Zombie Nation sucks?

1/16/2010 9:28:17 PM

If Dennis Horner starts again against Duke, my support for Lowe will still be in the air.

The second half today gave me a lot of hope even Mays is playing well.

If he can somehow get Javi back and CJ playing like he can, we might manage something this year.

1/16/2010 10:13:18 PM

The RBC Center did something today I had hoped they would never do. They played Zombie Nation Dennis Horner during a timeout the whole game. Who can we send and email to regarding how much Zombie NationDennis Horner sucks?

1/17/2010 12:01:45 AM

Quote :

"Howell strikes me as more of a SF/PF hybrid. I think he has the potential to bang under the boards but his tendency to shoot scares me, its too flat of a shot. He needs to leave that to Scott Wood. I like the lineup of Smith, Howell, Wood, Degand and Javi/Mays if we had a decent point guard it would be a lot easier...someone that was quick and didnt mind dribble penetration like Degand. I'd be fine if Horner never saw the court again."

+1...especially in regards to Horner

1/17/2010 2:49:34 AM

I am seeing glimpses of reddick in wood ... for sure ...

The quick catch and shoot, while fading away from the 3pt line ... so sweet to watch.

+1 on Horner ... considering that he doesnt really bring value to the court over and above that of howell (per last nights game), we might as well go with the freshman, and let him rise to his potential faster.

1/17/2010 8:19:16 AM

haha, at least wood doesn't do that ridiculous limp wristed thing after every shot like reddick did.

1/17/2010 8:47:43 AM

And plays defense without flopping. Scott Wood has waaaay more potential than Reddick. Reddick was a defensive liability and one dimensional especially as a freshman.

1/17/2010 9:47:12 AM

Quote :

"The RBC Center did something today I had hoped they would never do. They played Zombie [s]Nation Dennis Horner during a timeout the whole game. Who can we send and email to regarding how much Zombie NationDennis Horner sucks?"

beergolftile, do you actually watch the games? Do you know what you're even talking about? Dennis Horner played 13 mins against clemsons. Your FIFY is silly.

And yes, zombie nation sucks.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 10:11 AM. Reason : ]

1/17/2010 10:09:29 AM

JJ got to the FT line 726 times in his career at Duke

1/17/2010 10:18:32 AM

because you weren't allowed to touch him because he was K's white little bitch. I saw people holding wood by his frickin head when he was fighting to get open yesterday. No Calls...

1/17/2010 10:20:49 AM

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"Scott Wood has waaaay more potential than Reddick. Reddick was a defensive liability and one dimensional especially as a freshman."

ya know, I hate JJ Reddick as much as the next State fan, but this. . this is just borderline retarded. I don't see glimpses at all of Reddick in Wood, aside from the fact that he has made successive 3s for us (and is arguably the first guy to do so in years). Reddick is one of the best shooters I have ever, ever seen. Wood is quite hit or miss. Not to mention, while Reddick might have been one dimensional as a freshman, he could score from damn near anywhere in his latter years.

1/17/2010 10:23:03 AM

Quote :

" Reddick might have been one dimensional as a freshman"

News flash Scott Wood is a freshman and has shown not only to be able to shoot but actually defend well (which reddick never mastered). Reddick's 3pt percentage as a freshman 39.9%. Scott Woods including his early season slump= 37.8%. Considering that his percentage seems to be on the rise I don't think that it is unreasonable to expect that he could end the season with around a 40% average especially now that plays are being run for him.

Quote :

" Not to mention, while Reddick might have been one dimensional as a freshman, he could score from damn near anywhere in his latter years. "

I guess if you consider a jump shot or free throw "everywhere".

1/17/2010 10:47:40 AM

does anybody really think that Scott will put up Redick-like numbers over his four years here?

15ppg -> 16ppg -> 22ppg -> 27ppg

(with a Naismith Award to boot)

1/17/2010 10:56:50 AM

I don't think anyone really believes that.

He's just the first true shooter we'd had in god knows how long.

1/17/2010 11:12:22 AM

JJ was a good defender in college. He wasn't great but he wasn't a paulus. I remember him shutting down robert hite a few times. Its the NBA where hes a defensive liability. Wood has the potential to be a good NBA shooting guard.

JJ also could score off the bounce, drive to the basket and make a tough layup, got steals and had the handles to push and pull up on a dime off a fast break.

I do think wood is close to where JJ was as a freshman but I don't see him becoming twice as good while in college the way JJ did. We just don't have as good of guys around him like deng duhon and williams to make him open all the time.

Quote :

"haha, at least wood doesn't do that ridiculous limp wristed thing after every shot like reddick did."

Thats exactly the kind of thing he needs to do. our players need charisma and borderline cockyness. When opposing fans hate your player...thats when you know you've got something special

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 11:23 AM. Reason : hodge is the only one I can think of. ]

1/17/2010 11:21:35 AM

Our players don't need shit like that.

Our players need to win. That's how you know you have something special. Not when your good shooter dances away from a made basket like a fucking fairy.

1/17/2010 11:28:04 AM

a fucking multimillionaire fairy who pees on overpriced hookers every single night of the week

1/17/2010 11:33:11 AM

and do you think the fairy wrist got that for him or the fact that his team fucking won?

are you that stupid?

1/17/2010 11:34:18 AM

nah, i'm just biased as shit because I love Jonathan with all of my heart

1/17/2010 11:39:05 AM

Quote :

"Scott Wood has waaaay more potential than Reddick."

Holy shit how fucking retarded are you? You must have been high off your ass when you wrote this. Do you really believe this?

You think Scott Wood is going to win the Adolph Rupp Trophy for being the National Player of the Year at NC State? JJ Redick was one of the best players in college basketball history.

WAAAAAY more potential???? If you want to be overly optimistic fine, but this is nothing short of delirium.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 1:01 PM. Reason : []

1/17/2010 12:57:41 PM

As a freshman he has more skills and a better size for his game therefore MORE potential. Did I say he would realize this potential?

1/17/2010 2:28:13 PM

this is one of those arguments that we all will be laughing about in four years when Scott Wood graduates as a so-so player, maybe maxing out as a 2nd team all-acc player. I hope I'm wrong, Scott Wood is probably my favorite player on this team, but all this Redick talk is craziness, he has had two good games in a row, lets wait to see how the rest of the season goes before we name him the next NCAA player of the year-in-waiting

1/17/2010 2:29:50 PM

wed have to run more plays for him

1/17/2010 2:32:13 PM

he'll get his plays, his opportunities and his points, but he won't be as good or as productive (regularly) as reddick.

1/17/2010 2:35:53 PM

since this is a thread involving clemson... I wonder if the clemson fans had the same discussion about whether oglesby would be the next reddick

1/17/2010 2:46:03 PM

reddddick

1/17/2010 2:51:13 PM

Quote :

"this is one of those arguments that we all will be laughing about in four years when Scott Wood graduates as a so-so player"

I'm laughing at it right now.

1/17/2010 3:03:40 PM

I'm laughing everytime adder tells me I don't know basketball.

1/17/2010 3:04:31 PM

yeah, I definitely know who to ignore in basketball threads from now on

wow

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 3:09 PM. Reason : yup]

1/17/2010 3:09:00 PM

I swear we have some of the dumbest god damn fans on the planet. All it takes is one great game from any player against any team, shitty or not, and they're the next fucking Jordan. And to think, I wonder why you people want to fire the coaches and hang yourselves after every loss.



All Wood does better than Reddick at this point is not fuck men and play defense.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 3:20 PM. Reason : ]

1/17/2010 3:19:08 PM

Reddick vs Wood stat wise. Also Reddick's stats could have been more impressive to his freshman year if he wasnt on a pretty good team at the time and didnt have to share shots with other players on the floor with him.


http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/duke/jj-redick

http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/north-carolina-state/scott-wood

1/17/2010 3:19:15 PM

More athletic- Check
Better size- Check
An excellent looking jumper- Check
Reddicks dribble/ first step developed while he was at Duke for the first year or two all he was was a little white dude who hit a shit load of jumpers.
Saying someone has more potential than Reddick doesn't mean shit. Potential does not mean he will be better than Reddick. Just like Deon Thompson had a higher ceiling than Handblow did. Doesn't mean he will be better but the possibility is there.

^ the better team argument goes both ways. Most of his team mates could score and/ or create their own shots giving him more opportunities at open looks.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 4:12 PM. Reason : ^]

1/17/2010 4:10:31 PM

who is this Reddick fellow and what does he have to do with basketball?

1/17/2010 4:12:09 PM

Quote :

"More athletic- Check Better size- Check An excellent looking jumper- Check"

This describes NUMEROUS college players. Your little checklist doesn't prove shit.

1/17/2010 4:15:40 PM

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"Just like Deon Thompson had a higher ceiling than Handblow did."

I fucking hated Hansbrough more than anyone ever in the ACC but this is stupid.

You really need to stop posting to save embarrassment.

1/17/2010 4:15:42 PM

HEY GUYZ I THINK CJ WILLIAMS IS GOING TO BE THE NEXT STEPHEN CURRY!!!

1/17/2010 4:17:41 PM

You really don't understand what I mean by potential. Potential is more akin to their raw physical/ athletic abilities and more of a measure of what a player could possibly become. Example: Courtney Fells had a SHITLOAD of potential (way more than Hodge) yet he never really put it all together. A lot of players never come close to realizing their potential. Players like Hodge, Reddick and Handjob got the very most out of their potential. Scott Wood has the potential to become a better player than Reddick but I am not saying that he will. I don't think it is even very likely because Reddick was very good at getting the very best out of his physical abilities.
BTW Reddick's best game as a freshman was 30pts (scored against NCSU ) So far Scott Wood has already had a 31pt game. Doesn't prove my point by any means but it is something to think about.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 4:31 PM. Reason : ^ The troll is back ]

1/17/2010 4:30:33 PM

^

You are way off on Fells. He had absolutely NO HANDLE or lateral quickness. He could jump really high and was a decent set shooter, but he did not have tons of potential. He certainly passed the eyeball test, but he was deceiving.

1/17/2010 4:36:57 PM

^^ lol you really truly believe that don't you. You've got very real hopes of Wood becoming the next ACC and National Player of the Year because he's got a little bigger body frame than JJ Redick. By your logic Richard Howell should be the next DeJuan Blair

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 4:38 PM. Reason : []

1/17/2010 4:37:49 PM

For once I'm on board with Beebe.

1/17/2010 4:39:07 PM

This is why you are a troll
How you got this

Quote :

"lol you really truly believe that don't you. You've got very real hopes of Wood becoming the next ACC and National Player of the Year because he's got a little bigger body frame than JJ Redick."

From

Quote :

"Scott Wood has the potential to become a better player than Reddick but I am not saying that he will. I don't think it is even very likely because Reddick was very good at getting the very best out of his physical abilities. "

Can you not read? I have NEVER said that Scott Wood will be a better player IN FACT I said the exact opposite.
Shit there you go trolling me again.
^then you really must not understand what I mean by potential

1/17/2010 4:47:33 PM

Quote :

"And plays defense without flopping. Scott Wood has waaaay more potential than Reddick. Reddick was a defensive liability and one dimensional especially as a freshman."

NO. This was your first post on the subject. Don't try to escape stupidity now. You can tell from reading that post (waaaay more potential than Reddick) that you really believe he has a good chance to be better than or as good as Redick. Stop backpedaling after getting called out for it.

1/17/2010 4:56:21 PM

So you're saying Wood has the POTENTIAL to be one of the best players in ACC history? You're making it too easy for Beebe.

1/17/2010 4:59:06 PM

Quote :

"So you're saying Wood has the POTENTIAL to be one of the best players in ACC history? You're making it too easy for Beebe."

according to adder, he has WAAAAY more potential to be one of the best players in ACC history than Redick. And please at least try to spell the man's name correctly, adder, so it looks like you have some idea of what you are talking about.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 5:02 PM. Reason : []

1/17/2010 5:01:07 PM

I never said once that he would be a better player than Reddick so I really don't get your point. I simply said he has waaaaay more potential. Do you deny that he is more athletic? bigger? Potential doesn't mean shit. Many players had more potential than Reddick and a lot of those players are working a walmart right now. As usual Beebe is making shit up.

1/17/2010 5:05:26 PM

dude you need to go ahead and quit this one before you dig yourself any deeper.

btw it's spelled Redick. I can't believe you didn't know that considering how how you are such an expert on his potential.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 5:11 PM. Reason : []

1/17/2010 5:06:52 PM

Are you denying that
A. Wood is more athletic than Red-dick
or
B. Wood is bigger than Red-dick
or
C. Wood plays better defense as a freshman

or do you think that these factors play no part in what a basketball player
may become?

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 5:14 PM. Reason : Spelling i guess you don't get my sophomoric humor handjob/ handblow wasn't his real name either]

1/17/2010 5:12:23 PM

You're just fucking around, right? You could sub in Josh Davis for Wood and answer the same 3 questions.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM. Reason : f]

1/17/2010 5:13:46 PM

Good grief I hope he's just trolling or something.

[Edited on January 17, 2010 at 5:18 PM. Reason : []

1/17/2010 5:18:09 PM