eli All American 1581 Posts user info edit post |
^^^If the Suns play like they did against the Spurs, hell they'd probably need to play even better, but they might have a chance. It'll be a tough series for sure, but this Suns team does not seem to stop progressing.
You also have to remember that as for height is concerned... Collins doesn't do shit, but Robin Lopez might be back. He was listed as being day-to-day during the Spurs series. If he can just scrape a few boards here and there, while having Amare attack the basket, they might have a chance.
I definitely agree with the analysts when they say that Richardson is the team's thermometer, however the only time the Suns beat the Lakers this season (out of 4 games), Richardson only had 4 points. Amare needs to come up big and play wicked aggressive (as he has, averaging just over 20 points/game).
[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 6:46 PM. Reason : Fucking arrows.] 5/11/2010 6:45:47 PM |
jprince11 All American 14181 Posts user info edit post |
wtf is happening, what a crappy yr, I had to watch that duke cakewalk to the title and now the lakers are on the same path 5/11/2010 10:26:20 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
i'm calling out all of you fools that thought cleveland would run away with this series. you obviously weren't doing anything but looking at regular season records...don't make me pull out the quotes. I was the only one who thought boston had a chance even though it was clearly a tossup. 5/11/2010 10:44:44 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
lol 6 pointer from pierce 5/11/2010 10:47:05 PM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
They are already starting to announce the production crew credits; its like a Lions Thanksgiving day game. 5/11/2010 10:52:21 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
5/11/2010 10:53:50 PM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'm calling out all of you fools that thought cleveland would run away with this series. you obviously weren't doing anything but looking at regular season records...don't make me pull out the quotes. I was the only one who thought boston had a chance even though it was clearly a tossup." |
FeebleMinded
Quote : | "One thing that can't be ignored is the fact that the Celtics won an NBA Championship 2 years ago with almost this same exact team, and they have NEVER lost a series with the Big 3 healthy. Does that make them the favorite.... well of course not. But the Celtics have shown flashes of absolute dominance this year, and they have played pretty well against Cleveland (if I remember right they went 2-2). On the flipside, they have had streaks where I was embarassed to be a fan. I think it should be an interesting series, and I would be shocked if it went less than 6 games either way.
My pick.... Celtics in 6.
4/28/2010 7:25:25 AM" |
[Edited on May 11, 2010 at 11:13 PM. Reason : .]5/11/2010 11:11:56 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
all i will say is....when ray allen decides to show up...its GAME OVARRRRRRRRRRRR! 5/11/2010 11:15:16 PM |
Namwob All American 568 Posts user info edit post |
I cannot wait for my dear Kobe to have his sweet sweet vengeance on the Celtics.
KOBE BRYANT FOR LIFE!! 5/11/2010 11:17:24 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
lol at the post game show in the tnt studios 5/11/2010 11:27:20 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
ok so it was really just rallydurham and drod but they were so oboxious it seemed like more than 2 people. rally also said lakers in 7
[Edited on May 12, 2010 at 12:48 AM. Reason : everything the guy says about nba is wrong] 5/12/2010 12:48:23 AM |
BigT716 All American 3458 Posts user info edit post |
i think the fact that 99% of the human race hates him makes me <3 him that much more.
go celts.
5/12/2010 9:37:10 AM |
FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
I think it is way overpresumptuous to be talking about the the conference finals right now, because Cleveland is far from out of this series.
That being said, who matches up better against Orlando, and does either team have a legitimat shot at beating them? 5/12/2010 10:18:23 AM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
Cleveland far from out of this series? I think I heard someone say that Bron already put up a For Sale sign in his yard.
I for one am a Bron & Cleveland fan. I thought they would take Celts in 6, but watching this series I think the Cavs will be lucky to make it to a game 7.
III 5/12/2010 10:29:46 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Really wasn't expecting that beat down last night.
Lebron really isn't asserting himself. I never thought of him as the type of person to "check out"...but it sure does seem like that now. 5/12/2010 10:41:54 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
so who thinks Lebron had a bad game last night
and who thinks he was intentionally not shooting or trying in an effort to evaluate how good his teammates were, and trying to see if he wanted to stay with this core for the next few years or go play somewhere else
a lot of people are saying Lebron is gone, regardless of if Cleveland wins it all 5/12/2010 12:34:39 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and who thinks he was intentionally not shooting or trying in an effort to evaluate how good his teammates were, and trying to see if he wanted to stay with this core for the next few years or go play somewhere else " |
That is abso-fucking-lutely retarded.5/12/2010 12:49:39 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree
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FeebleMinded Finally Preemie! 4472 Posts user info edit post |
I think a lot of people forget how dominating the Celtics were two years ago. They had an amazing defense, which pretty much won them the championship. Sure, they aren't built for the regular season and the beatings your body takes between games and practice. Three of their four stars are well past their prime. But like I said before, you have almost the exact same team that won the NBA championship just two years ago. Defense wins championships, and as amazing as Lebron is, a great defense will beat a great offense (or a great player) almost every time. 5/12/2010 1:37:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^^^Kobe did it a couple times in years past, why so retarded to think Lebron might be doing it as well
He has some big decisions to make after this season, like where he wants to play...and whether or not he stays in Cleveland should probably have a lot to do with the other players in Cleveland like Williams and Jamison and whether or not he thinks he wants them as potentially long term teammates
I don't even really think thats what he was doing, I don't know what the hell he was doing, but I don't think the idea is so ludicrous, just throwing it out there] 5/12/2010 1:46:10 PM |
mambagrl Suspended 4724 Posts user info edit post |
its unreasonable to expect lebron to perform at an amazingly high level night after night. Thats why I proclaimed the cavs were simply an overated team built for the regular season. When you start playing great teams every night and rely on one guy, that guy wears down eventually. 5/12/2010 2:03:13 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i'd at least expect him to take more than 3 field goals in the first half 5/12/2010 2:10:36 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
I think there are two things that explain why the Celtics are playing so well right now (or as well as they did when they won a couple years ago):
1) Rondo playing like an elite level point guard, and
2) Ray Allen lighting it up.
Two years ago Rondo was playing above average, but it was all they needed. Garnett wasn't as good as he was in his younger years, but his defense was stellar and he was still playing like one of the top PFs in the game. Pierce was still very close to his peak and was playing as one of the top scorers in the game as well as a good defensive stopper. Allen was playing just okay...but because of the Garnett, Pierce, and the rest of the role players on the team, he didn't have to play as well as he did in his prime.
Fast forward to this year. Garnett has had a pretty decent drop-off. He's playing okay in this series, but he's not nearly the force he was in his prime, much less a couple years ago. Pierce has had a pretty big drop-off as well. He's had an okay year, but up until Game 5, he has had a horrible series. Even game 5 was under 50% shooting again. You have Rondo playing awesome, which has gotten them back to the 2nd round, but they still struggled in the 2nd half of the year and only won convincingly when he was playing out of this world. But when Ray Allen is hot...it picks up the Pierce and Garnett slack. He has been automatic when you leave him open...which happens a lot with Rondo's drives and defenses keying in on Pierce (nobody doubles Garnett anymore). But they lose when he doesn't hit those open shots. But they win big when he hits the open shots and the extremely contested ones. He's playing much better now then he did 2 years ago.
I think the bench from this year is a wash compared to the bench from a couple years ago. Some players are the same, some are different...but they all fit in and put forth some production when needed...but at the same time don't determine the outcome of the game (like the Suns' bench can). 5/12/2010 2:19:22 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kobe did it a couple times in years past" |
Please tell me when Kobe did this?? And on a championship caliber team??
If you're Lebron or Kobe, playing with the Bobcats, and you KNOW that you're not going to make it past the 2nd round....then MAYBE you do this. But you don't do it when you know you have a good chance at winning the championship.
That's why it is abso-fucking-lutely retarded.5/12/2010 2:21:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
he did it once on a team that went on to win the title...Shaq was on the team...Kobe got criticized for taking too many shots so he basically said to himself, "you think I shoot too much? ok lets see how you do without me" and he took 1 shot during the entire first half the next game, and it was a completely wide open look...he was trying to make a point
he did it another time in the post-Shaq pre-Gasol years, when he didn't think they had a chance at winning the title with teammates like Smush Parker and Chris Mihm...in that case it seemed to be "i can't win with this group, look how bad they suck without me"
and maybe Lebron doesn't think he has a good chance of winning the championship with this team...even if he thinks they can come back and beat Boston, who is to say he thinks they can beat Orlando? had he not hit a miracle fadeaway 3 pointer last year, Orlando would've swept Cleveland
i don't know whats going on in Lebron's head, but theres something going on in his head
and look at these post game comments from Lebron...unreal
Quote : | "I spoil a lot of people with my play. When you have a bad game here or there, you’ve had three bad games in a seven-year career, then it’s easy to point that out" |
to your point though, if he didn't think he could win a title with these guys, he shouldve realized it before last night
i also agree its retarded to do something like that...i just dont think the possibility of him doing it is retardedly unlikely
[Edited on May 12, 2010 at 3:12 PM. Reason : .]5/12/2010 3:04:30 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
my boss' dad asked me if i watched the game last night
he says, "i don't like cleveland. you know why? that Lebaron James."
haha he called him out for walking off the court after losing last year
i didn't have the heart to correct him, he's an old man and makes me laugh 5/12/2010 3:21:57 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.wewantwade.com 5/13/2010 1:07:41 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
mike brown is such a bad coach 5/13/2010 8:26:03 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
He's about to be an ex coach 5/13/2010 8:40:30 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
why hasn't jj played recently?
HOLY CRAP MO WILLIAMS IS MORE FRUSTRATING TO WATCH THAN SOME GODAWFUL OFFSPRING OF BRANDILIAN JAVIMAYS I!!!1
ha, everytime i look away mo scores and every time i watch it's a javi turnover
[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 8:54 PM. Reason : ]
[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 9:06 PM. Reason : ] 5/13/2010 8:53:03 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Sheed is an idiot.
They need to T him up more often. I cant stand players that whine and backtalk ref's.
Lebron really doesnt have that great of a cast around him. And Rondo gets away with more travels than most of the people in the NBA.
[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 8:59 PM. Reason : g] 5/13/2010 8:55:13 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
^yeah, some of the crap the cavs run on offense makes me at mike brown, but to be fair....they got lebron and not a single other consistent scorer. the wide open shots cleveland has missed have been 5/13/2010 9:03:20 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
lol they blew the whistle before Shaq hacked him... I mean.. He fouled Perkins.. but they blew the whistle early. 5/13/2010 9:10:36 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
i dono... does the league want lebron to leave cleveland? looks that way...the refs have been atrocious the past couple games.
i kid.
sort of. 5/13/2010 9:13:26 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I've said many times Mike Brown got lucky.
He is a terrible coach...he just sounds clueless and dumb.
the Celtics and Lakers are so deeeeeeeeeep...its ridiculous.
the Cavs need to play Z and Anderson more. 5/13/2010 9:16:39 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I dont watch hardly ANY NBA. In fact this is the most I've watched in 2 years. But.. I would think a championship in a town that hasn't won shit in 50 years would be a HUGE marketable item for the NBA. I mean if the Cavs won a championship with Lebron he would be a fucking hero. And with the 24/7 media that exists today you dont have to be in LA or NY to be a huge star. I can't pin down the problem with Lebron this series but if he's tanking it so he can use the excuse.. I cant win in Cleavland so I have to leave then he loses a TON of respect from the average fan. If he's legitimately hurt he needs act hurt instead of disinterested.
[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 9:20 PM. Reason : f] 5/13/2010 9:19:17 PM |
krazedgirl All American 2578 Posts user info edit post |
i don't have cable/espn where can i watch this free on the internet...gimme weblink pls 5/13/2010 9:25:02 PM |
krazedgirl All American 2578 Posts user info edit post |
i don't have cable/espn where can i watch this free on the internet...gimme weblink pls 5/13/2010 9:25:26 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
You can come watch it on my 52" 5/13/2010 9:26:39 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I dont think its that Lebron has anything wrong...its the fact that no one else is playing well.
Finally Mo is playing well but...Lebron cant do it all.
Its well documented you have to have a great supporting cast to win a championship...and I dont think Lebron nor Howard have that.
they have good pieces but not the whole great cast. 5/13/2010 9:31:19 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
Cavs and Magic by far have the best all around teams in the league. The problem is knowing how to coach all that talent. Lakers don't have that problem since it's the starting 5 (I'd take Mo Williams over Fisher any day btw) and garbage coming off the bench - Odom. 5/13/2010 9:37:59 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I think the Cavs problem is they haven't won shit so the regular season means something to them. They played their asses off during the regular season trying to prove something. The Lakers/Spurs/Celtics have all won championships recently and know what the grind is. So they were on cruise control during the regular season. Once the post season started they flipped the switch. Now the Cavs are running into teams that are actually playing D, where as in the regular season teams weren't as intense. They cant handle it. They dont know how to win. 5/13/2010 9:41:29 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lebron really does play by the MJ rules. He murders people on one end and gets away with it and then creates contact himself on nearly every drive and gets the calls. 5/13/2010 9:45:18 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
in this series, jamison offers NOTHING that varejao can't offer. heck, even hickson. 5/13/2010 9:50:28 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
I love it when people try to get big on Shaq
he is my fav. player of the decade no doubt personality wise.
by Dwade is my guy when it comes to skill 5/13/2010 9:56:32 PM |
ohmy All American 3875 Posts user info edit post |
holy crap mike brown is a dadgom idiot. no way jamison should be playing this much. he's terrible.
[Edited on May 13, 2010 at 10:04 PM. Reason : ahha, well jamison does offer the effort to play through some blood at least. wow varejao wow.] 5/13/2010 9:58:28 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Yea, Anderson or Z need to stay in all game. one of the two at all times. 5/13/2010 10:00:44 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Haha, I swear it sounded like they were chanting New York Knicks when Lebron was on the line... 5/13/2010 10:00:49 PM |
Tarun almost 11687 Posts user info edit post |
3! 5/13/2010 10:02:46 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Pierce is fucking killing it 5/13/2010 10:08:02 PM |