Quote :

"sweet, we win a crucial acc road game and you people decide to celebrate by bashing scott wood. I love state fans."

Sounds like something dipshit Joe Ovies would say.

Should be

Quote :

"sweet, we win a crucial acc road game and you people decide to celebrate by bashing scott wood. I love state fans dumbasses."

And calling out idiots comparing Wood to Reddick is not bashing him. Your reading comprehension is comparable to adder's intelligence.

1/22/2012 9:06:44 PM

nobody has been bashing Wood

everybody has been bashing adder and his idiotic views

1/22/2012 9:07:26 PM

Scott wood is a beast. Fuck this jj talk

1/22/2012 9:08:03 PM

(about the guy in the UNC hat taking the pic) I'm a long way from North Carolina and i see homeless people up here wearing UNC stuff, its kind of like when you see pictures of war torn africa and a little kid's have some iconic American brand shirt on.

[Edited on January 22, 2012 at 9:09 PM. Reason : ]

1/22/2012 9:08:24 PM

dude in the grey tshirt is pissed

1/22/2012 9:10:33 PM

actually looking the the N&O pics, the crowd pics were pretty odd, lots of state fans, a really empty arena, and a lot of fairly disinterested TheU fans.

1/22/2012 9:21:13 PM

LOL at CJ Williams face

1/22/2012 11:12:47 PM

There were probably about 1,500 - 2,000 in the arena of which probably 200 were state fans.

I wouldn't say the fans were disinterested at all that were there.

The game was at fucking noon on a Sunday and the entire student body was likely out in south beach until 4 am the night before. Sometimes cbk loses its appeal

1/23/2012 12:31:12 AM

^
Ha, that's pretty much what Dave Odom said during the broadcast.

1/23/2012 12:31:50 AM

All night on the beach till the break of dawn

1/23/2012 12:48:28 AM

I will not quit this thread unti l I get some face analysis.
i need to be brought down from this high.

1/23/2012 12:57:40 AM

thats the problem with sports in miami. regular entertainment always loses its appeal when you are in miami.

1/23/2012 1:14:06 AM

We played well.

Really the only fault was us not slowing the tempo when we had a big lead with under ten to play.

Other than that we ran good sets , got contributions off the bench, defended aggressively.

We did get a bit lucky that Miami couldn't hit anything, but we were hedging hard off the screen and gave up way less open looks than normal.

That win doesn't erase the Gt loss, but it does mitigate it

1/23/2012 6:36:44 AM

we should post the smiling richard howell dunk after each win

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM. Reason : ]

1/23/2012 9:53:17 AM

Quote :

"We did get a bit lucky that Miami couldn't hit anything, but we were hedging hard off the screen and gave up way less open looks than normal."

So how much of BC and Miami's combined 4-40 3pt shooting is them missing shots, versus us defending better?

1/23/2012 10:31:27 AM

i think that us showing flashes of the double team down low with CJL was forshadowing how we are going to guard unc's bigs. CJL's hands were very active and his hustle was better than ive seen before. if he can be this effective on thursday....

1/23/2012 10:35:18 AM

If his hands are that active against UNC, he will foul out in 5 minutes.

1/23/2012 10:53:51 AM

Holy fuck on the level of dumb posted in this thread.

This

Quote :

"All I am saying is you replace Redick with Wood in that Duke lineup and they would probably have had shockingly similar careers"

and this

Quote :

"If you want to compare Wood to a Duke player, he's Mike Dunleavy Jr minus 3 inches."

are new levels of dumb.


Happy with the game. We can still be a little careless with the ball...Brown mainly...Leslie a given. And Leslie should NEVER lead a break. If he gets the ball off of a steal/block/rebound...he should always get the ball to a guard immediately. And Howell can pass it too much sometimes. He'll be right under the basket with either a clean look or a good look where he'll likely get fouled if he goes up...and he'll kick it out or try some wrap around pass to someone who doesn't have as good a shot as he does, leading a to a turnover. Just put the damn shot up and get fouled.

I am impressed with our improvement on defense. I was worried after the Tech game that our D would struggle to get it together. Last three games have shown a lot of improvement.

1/23/2012 12:33:19 PM

Wood is the man

JJ is Redickulously gay

That's all there is to it.

1/23/2012 12:57:49 PM

Quote :

"So how much of BC Wake and Miami's combined 4-40 3pt shooting is them missing shots, versus us defending better?"

In our last 3 games (wake (2-20), bc (9-27), miami (2-20)), we've held our opponents to a total of 13-67 on 3s, 19.4%.

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 1:48 PM. Reason : ]

1/23/2012 1:47:48 PM

Redick
Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2005-06 36 37.1 26.8 47.0 42.1 86.3 2.6 2.0 0.1 1.4
2004-05 33 37.3 21.8 40.8 40.3 93.8 2.6 3.3 0.1 1.1
2003-04 37 31.1 15.9 42.3 39.5 95.3 1.6 3.1 0.1 0.7
2002-03 33 30.7 15.0 41.3 39.9 91.9 2.0 2.5 0.1 1.2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Career 139 34.0 19.9 43.2 40.5 91.1 2.2 2.7 0.1 1.1


Wood
Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2011-12 19 30.368 13.316 48.1 45.3 100.0 1.474 1.789 0.684 0.526
2010-11 31 31.323 9.677 43.0 41.9 92.3 1.419 2.581 0.548 0.903
2009-10 36 28.583 7.75 39.5 37.3 70.6 1.417 2.889 0.472 0.667
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Career 86 30.0 9.7 42.9 41.0 89.2 1.4 2.5 0.5 0.7


redick v wood. comparable numbers if you account for the fact that over his first 2 years, scott had sidney lowe while jj had an offense that was created soley to get him open?

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 1:57 PM. Reason : formating ]

1/23/2012 1:56:26 PM

I don't think anyone would argue that our perimeter defense wasn't markedly improved in that game.

We were definitely still on the lucky end that they only shot 2-20 from 3's as quite a few of those were good looks and Miami isn't a poor shooting team.

I'd say in a typical game against an above average shooting team like Miami we played defense well enough to hold them to around 30-35% from 3's which is relatively solid.

BC is a poor shooting team that is forced to shoot 3's by necessity because they can't score at all otherwise. 9-27 is an acceptable performance, though it could have been better.

The Wake Forest game our defense was better than usual, but that was one of the worst offensive performances I've ever seen from an ACC opponent, so we can't take all the credit for that one.

All in all, it seems like our defense is heading in the right direction and we'll see over the next two games how it holds against two extremely different type of opponents.

UNC plays at a frenetic pace and UVA plays at stall speed. Both are elite defensive teams. UNC gets all of their offense on the inside and off of offensive rebounds and we'll have to defend well enough to keep us in a high scoring game. Against UVA we can't have many lapses because there simply aren't many possessions in a game, so a 7 point deficit is more like a double digit lead.


Also, CJL was chatting with Bishop Daniels a long time before the Miami game. I couldn't hear everything over the tens of fans sitting quietly in their seats but it sounded like Bishop was giving him a hard time about how much better Miami is than Raleigh haha. CJL walked away laughing and saying something about Raleigh that I couldn't quite make out.

The other thing I noticed is Wood laughing about the long delay before he took his FT's to break the record. You could tell he knew exactly what those FT's meant and when the ref delayed the FT for the 2nd time (after reviewing the replay) he broke into a huge grin like dude you're killing me here.

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 2:05 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 2:07 PM. Reason : a]

1/23/2012 2:03:06 PM

To put it in prospective Wake and BC suck. Miami hasn't been great from 3 last few games (if i remember correctly).

UNC hasn't been hitting a lot of threes this year either, but they don't take a lot. (saying that Barnes will probably have a career high 60 points all from three). I still caulk GT up as a fluke shooting night by GT.

I do think we defended better, but Miami missed a lot of open shots. so did BC.


3-POINT FG PCT G 3FGM 3FGA Pct
1. Duke 19 155 379 .409
2. NC State 20 111 304 .365
3. Virginia Tech 19 119 327 .364
4. Miami 17 125 345 .362
5. North Carolina 19 98 278 .353
6. Maryland 18 91 270 .337
7. Boston College 19 138 413 .334
8. Wake Forest 19 102 306 .333
9. Clemson 19 106 320 .331
10. Virginia 18 89 269 .331
11. Florida State 19 111 339 .327
12. Georgia Tech 19 92 297 .310

1/23/2012 2:06:47 PM

a lot of times, once a team clangs/bricks their threes in the beginning of the game, its much harder for them to make them from a pysche and conditioning standpoint later in the game (even if they're wide open), whereas if they get hot early, it almost doesn't matter the defense you play on a team that's just feeling it.

Regarding the FTs for Wood, it was actually Larranaga being a little bit of a dick (good coaching), he called for the officials to review where Wood's foot was, not so that he wouldn't get the record, but, they had just cut it to 7 and this would put it right back up to 10 if he made all three.

1/23/2012 2:18:08 PM

Quote :

"The other thing I noticed is Wood laughing about the long delay before he took his FT's to break the record. You could tell he knew exactly what those FT's meant and when the ref delayed the FT for the 2nd time (after reviewing the replay) he broke into a huge grin like dude you're killing me here."

yeah, that was on tv.

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM. Reason : ^i think that was the first delay, then i think the ref delayed again after they lined up]

1/23/2012 3:08:12 PM

Right , there was a second delay where the ref wouldn't let him shoot yet after they got lined up

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 4:15 PM. Reason : a]

1/23/2012 4:15:01 PM

This is a pretty random question, but, are opposing players at the line allowed to shout at the free throw shooter to break his concentration?

1/23/2012 4:42:32 PM

no

1/23/2012 4:43:19 PM

It's okay to pull your dick out and helicopter, just no verbal shit

1/23/2012 4:46:19 PM

Its considered taboo. Similar to how if all 11 49ers had simultaneously dropped trou and mooned Lawrence Tynes last night.

1/23/2012 4:54:45 PM

Quote :

"redick v wood. comparable numbers if you account for the fact that over his first 2 years, scott had sidney lowe while jj had an offense that was created soley to get him open?"

I would take redick any day over wood. wood is not an automatic 3, redick is. redick could also create his own shot, wood still can't.

1/23/2012 4:56:00 PM

GTFO with that reddick was automatic shit. Reddick lit up the scoreboard from the free throws as much as he did with his 3 pt shooting.

He drove to the lane more, got more lay-ups and foul shots and profited. He was not as lethal as Wood from 3 but that is not to say that Wood is a better player. They are just different at this point in that Wood is fairly 1 dimensional a la James Jones where as Reddick had more scoring components to his game than 3s.

[Edited on January 23, 2012 at 5:02 PM. Reason : as]

1/23/2012 5:00:38 PM

Other than the fact that they're both Caucasian and would both fit right at home in the Cleaver household, Wood and Redick should never be mentioned in the same sentence. Wood still has a year and a half to change that, but right now he's not in the same ballpark.

1/23/2012 5:01:33 PM

Quote :

"He drove to the lane more, got more lay-ups and foul shots and profited. He was not as lethal as Wood from 3 but that is not to say that Wood is a better player."

Winner isn't the the team with the highest three-point percentage

1/23/2012 5:14:35 PM

Quote :

"wood is not an automatic 3, redick is."

Wood is just as automatic as Redick was (and probably more so). He just couldn't do all the other shit...ya know...like poetry and shit.

1/23/2012 5:22:25 PM

and neither one of them could hold a candle to my man Salim Stoudamire.

1/23/2012 5:23:58 PM

Quote :

"Wood is just as automatic as Redick was (and probably more so). He just couldn't do all the other shit...ya know...like poetry and shit."

1/23/2012 9:30:28 PM

scott wood career 3pt % = 45.3
jj reddick career 3pt % = 40.5

scott wood is pretty fucking automatic, but yeh whatever you want to think

1/24/2012 1:25:58 PM

JJ Redick played an extreme amount of minutes, ran tirelessly through screens, and made a ridiculous percentage of 3's based on the amount he jacked up.

3pt% is a great indicator of being a good shooter, but when one guy has that many more attempts you have to recognize that one of them is taking a higher degree of difficulty shots. If a guy is making over 40% of his 3's then I want him taking as many fucking shots as he can get without significantly lowering the percentage that he's hitting.

Does anyone on this planet actually think Scott Wood is a better basketball player than Redick? Doubtful. Redick also got to the line all the time. He's one of the best shooters/scorers in ACC history. At this point Scott is just an exceptional shooter.


You realize if JJ Redick practiced careful shot selection he could hit just as high of a 3PT% as Wood, right?

But why would he want to?

If I offered you a 20% return on a $1,000 investment or an 18% return on a $1,000,000 investment which would you take? Businesses have to make these decisions all the time, it's called capital budgeting.

The shooter with the highest IRR doesn't always have the best Net Present Value.

If you were budgeting shots, you'd want JJ Redick taking a lot of them.

1/24/2012 4:16:49 PM

Yo Martin, how's Randy doing?

[Edited on January 24, 2012 at 4:22 PM. Reason : MANDY]

1/24/2012 4:22:08 PM

Quote :

"Does anyone on this planet actually think Scott Wood is a better basketball player than Redick?"

I'm convinced several folks here feel this way and will take that feeling to the fucking grave, despite the pleas of rational thought and common sense.

1/24/2012 4:42:35 PM

JJ is one of the best players in ACC history

1/24/2012 4:58:21 PM

Agree with ^^^^ and ^...there's really no argument


[Edited on January 24, 2012 at 5:07 PM. Reason : ad]

1/24/2012 5:06:47 PM